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Video Editing (From Hackintosh to Windows 7)

by expo_marker

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CPU Clock Rate

3.2GHz

GPU Core Clock Rate

980MHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

6.01Ghz

Description

The parts were originally bought for a hackintosh build (for video editing), and it was my first time putting one together. Instead of trying to figure which parts go with which, I figured I'd stay safe and simply copy the build from:

http://www.tonymacx86.com/user-builds/64346-great-success-yo-mangs-hack-pro-3930k-gtx670-sabertooth-x79-56k-warn.html

However, once I had everything up and running, I didn't like using a mac on a PC, so I switched back to Windows 7. I know I should have gotten better parts, but maybe I'll swap the parts when prices go down.

Disk setup:

  • Sandisk 240GB: OS + installed programs

  • OCZ Vertex 4 128: scratch + cache

  • WD Caviar Black 1TB: media storage

Edit: Wow. I didn't think people were actually going to look at this and comment, but just to clear things with the RAM... I'm temporarily using 16GB from my old computer and waiting for the 32GB or 64GB to go on sale.

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jchamb49 1 Build 10 points

HOLY COW!!!!

THIS IS A SERIOUS RIG WE'RE LOOKING AT!!!!

(although your gpu looks cheap compared to the rest of it) i7 SIX core? 80GB RAM? (that's how much HARD DRIVE SPACE I have on my laptop) over 500 GB in SSD's? THREE 24" monitors? those specs are just unheard of!!!

I have the perfect name for this monster: the BUTTERFLY!!!

lol jk to all of that, this is an EPIC rig!!!!

Permalink 15 months ago
PacificNic 2 Builds 6 points

I'm temporarily using 16GB from my old computer and waiting for the 32GB or 64GB to go on sale.

Just saying...

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

lol, thanks

Permalink 15 months ago
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comptech0408 4 points

12 sticks of mismatched RAM in a motherboard with only 8 slots?

Permalink 15 months ago
PacificNic 2 Builds 5 points

I'm temporarily using 16GB from my old computer and waiting for the 32GB or 64GB to go on sale.

Just saying...

Permalink 15 months ago
comptech0408 1 point

Yeah, that comment wasn't there when I saw this build, but I am glad he cleared it up!

Permalink 15 months ago

I noticed this too... Its also odd how he bought a really high end gaming monitor yet only has a 670. I think he shouldve gotten another cheaper monitor and bought a 770 or 780.

Permalink 15 months ago
LeMonarque 3 Builds 19 points

...It's also possible that since this started out as a Hackintosh, it might not be a total gaming rig...

Main panel > 144Hz, reduces eye fatigue on the most-looked-at screen and is one of the best high refresh rate panels color-wise.

Side panels > IPS for color grading, 16:10 for productivity.

GTX 670 > an officially supported After Effects CS6 card that's $150 less than a 680 but just 5% slower. Below it, a 760 or 660 Ti has fewer CUDA cores and above it, a 770 was much more expensive.

3 SSDs and a small HDD > SSD for OS and programs, SSD for project files and media, SSD for exports, media cache, and pagefile, and small HDD for RAW footage and finished product storage that minimizes drive usage without being so low capacity that he's got a million HDDs around.

Not every computer is built for gaming. This is a classic workstation build, especially the drive and monitor setup.

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 8 points

Yeah, I didn't build this computer for gaming. It's mainly for video editing. I do play some games, though.

I own a Macbook Air and a Macbook Pro, both of which I enjoy using. I thought I would like using a mac on a pc, but it wasn't the same.

The side panels are definitely for color correction. My main use for them are for Lightroom, Premiere, and After Effects so far.

Permalink 15 months ago
LeMonarque 3 Builds 3 points

I wasn't aware you could run Premiere on OSX - but whatever's comfortable is what gets the job done the fastest right? Good decision following your gut on the OS.

I just find it confusing that it's not immediately noticeable that this isn't a pure gaming rig. As if the 3930K and hardcore disk config didn't give it away.

On that note, I think this is the first editing build I've seen that actually uses an efficient, purpose-made disk setup haha

EDIT: Ah I'm mixing up Final Cut with Premiere.

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

I really like the interface of the whole Adobe software on a mac, but that's just me.

Permalink 15 months ago

How is it using a "mac on a pc" ? It is just a mac. It boots up as a mac. Its like having your Air plugged into a monitor and a mouse.. I'm not sure how you could tell?

(I just built a Hackintosh as well moving away from using Airs and MBPs)

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

The environment feels different in different ways. For one, I have three monitors, and moving windows quickly from monitor to monitor wasn't quick enough for me, even using 'Better Touch Tool' with the magic trackpad. I feel that it's more comfortable me to just use a mac on a laptop since it's just one screen. That's where it feels most comfortable for me.

Another thing that bugged me was my workflow using my mechanical keyboard. Because it's not a mac keyboard, I changed everything Ctrl and Alt keyboard to work like a Cmd using 'Better Touch Tool' (ie - Cmd+V became Ctrl+V and Alt+V), but I still didn't enjoy it.

I also did not like using excel on a mac. There's one part during my week where I have to organize e-mails on excel and quickly type messages from cell to cell, and you won't believe how much it slowed down my workflow. I thought I would overlook this minor thing, but it annoyed me so much.

Permalink 15 months ago
comptech0408 2 points

Sorry about the RAM comment above then, that last statement wasn't there yet for me to read, so +1 from me, nice build!

Permalink 15 months ago
ArrKayCee 1 Build 1 point

On Amazon.com the only 670 you can buy new and still newly manufactures (the Asus Direct CU II mini) is $300, while the 770's are $340. So if he wanted a beefier card now he could easily get one, plus when he got the 670 it was most likely somewhere near $400 (which, if you remember, is the same price as a 770 before the price drop). I do understand not needing the extra power, but for the same price it is worth it.

Permalink 14 months ago

It was not most likely near $400. That 670 has been available for $330 or less since the beginning of July. The price history data is right there

Permalink 14 months ago
ArrKayCee 1 Build 1 point

I was looking at getting a 670, even when the 770's had recently came out; at that time the 670 was $370. That was earlier this year.

Permalink 14 months ago

It's possible that this build was finished before the 700 series came out.

Permalink 15 months ago

Very nice. More pictures would be nice, as well as pictures of your whole setup. :)

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Just got some pictures up!

Permalink 15 months ago

Very nice! :D

Permalink 15 months ago
Zeus 1 Build 3 points

Provide a more detailed description!

And add some more pics!!

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Sorry about that. My friend showed me this website today, and I just decided to play around and just list my build. I didn't think anyone would actually look at it.

Also, I just posted up some pictures.

Permalink 15 months ago

i'm confused on the ram...

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

The RAM was taken from my old computer for temporary use. I'm waiting for the 32GB or 64GB to go on sale xD

Permalink 15 months ago

Thank you for clarifying!

Permalink 15 months ago
SparkyOnPC 3 points

link to the wallpaper???

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

I forgot where I got the wallpaper, but I'll link you to my Dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v62ei7drorsbe3s/planets-1920x1080.jpg

Permalink 15 months ago
Gidbrel 2 Builds 2 points

Thanks!

Permalink 15 months ago
SparkyOnPC 2 points

<3

Permalink 15 months ago
noob_for_life 3 points

doesnt that little mic plugged into your keyboard pick up the sound of you typing?

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Yes, it definitely does, and more so because it's a mechanical keyboard. However, I use it for games like Dota 2 where I activate the mic manually, and at the same time, I'm not typing a message; I just hit the common q,w,e,r,a,s,d buttons.

I also use it for Skype, but then again, no one has complained about the typing noise yet.

Permalink 15 months ago
rclai 2 points

I have complained about the noise, but ONLY IN MY HEAD MUHAHHAHAHAA!

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

You should get one to annoy Lindsay xD

I recommend the MX Cherry Blue mechanical keyboards

Permalink 15 months ago
Anthony21 1 Build 3 points

Nice rig man, I also am running a bit of OS X Mavericks but can you help me out here?

My problem is, once i had build my build 1-2 weeks ago, I ran the setup of OS X Mavericks Installation Perfectly from a 16GB mini SD card via USB.

After it installed, it booted up showing MultiBeast after using UniBeast.

At the time, it pretty much unextracted the installation into the USB copy Multibeast with the files shown.

Anyway, when it was time to show MultiBeast again, ya supposed to tab on the Software which wasn't there before.

But after the Apple Logo, it went black making my screen Out Of Range!

I've used the prompt i think but idr and i kept getting to that screen, few days went by so i redid with the installation USB and now I am getting the Out OF Range when clicking the installation, why is this happening?

I'm a pc wiz but this is the 1st time I ever come up with and I'm having problems getting the installation up now.

Yesterday, I redid it but this time, instead of the files extracting from the installation, It just copied over just being one file. Anyway, once i got it up with MultiBeast, once doing the cmd tapping the installation, shows Apple and then Out of Range! on my monitor.

Can you help me with this?

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

I had the same issue before!! I restarted and reinstalled AT LEAST 15-20 times. However, I don't quite remember the exact steps I did and I don't know if your motherboard will react the same, but here's what I think I did:

At the Chimera boot screen, I always used: GraphicsEnabler=No PCIRootUID=0 npci=0x3000 cpus=1

After checking off the parts you need at Multibeast, I had to change something BEFORE shutting the computer off. This is where I had to pay close attention. For my X79 Sabertooth motherboard, I had search for folder "Extras" in the spotlight (I think it should already be on your desktop), and then open the file "Org.chameleon.Boot.plist" in TextEdit. I had to put in this command into the file:

<key>SMcputype</key>

<string>1281</string>

Here's where I placed it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oo0q4vt0cb34zvd/Org.chameleon.Boot.plist.png

Then I had to open "smbios.plist" in TextEdit and place that same command into this file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2vjzw000wct402/smbios.plist.png

After this point, I set up my RAID 0 configuration before shutting down the computer. In doing, I learned that the person who I followed had this "rd=uuid boot-uuid=[paste RAID identifier] npci=0x-2000" in the "org.chamleon.Boot.plist", but it was shown after his RAID 0 configuration. To make it quick, I got mine to work after I set this up, so I never tested it out by restarting the hackintosh without the RAID configuration.

So, what I think you could try at this point is go to Disk Utility and click on the drive that you created your OS on. Then hit Cmd+I. In the picture I gave you for "org.chamleon.Boot.plist" with "rd=uuid boot-uuid=[paste RAID identifier] npci=0x-2000", try replacing that key-like code with your Universal Unique Identifier code. For me, I copied and pasted the RAID Identifier. I'm not sure if that will work for you, but after putting that in, I was able to restart without any problems or having to use Unibeast.

If you want to know what I mean at the Disk Utility, you look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IzvhBbEXoY (go to 3:10)

Permalink 15 months ago
Anthony21 1 Build 3 points

Ok I try that in a little later.

The instructions I was following is this http://www.tonymacx86.com/374-unibeast-install-os-x-mavericks-any-supported-intel-based-pc.html

At Step 4.4 getting to .5 is the issue at the moment. Here is my build http://pcpartpicker.com/b/Hoh

But when I had it working, I was stuck at Step 5.5

Which shows about 10 seconds before getting Out Of Range!

Was so dam close, When i first started doing this, first time I was installing it, at the time i was recording myself loading it from my laptop. I've reviewed what I did even thou it was abit blury and couldnt c the screen bc i was in the way typing the cmd prompt at the MultiBeast Screen and then I hit enter, worked Perfectly so I'm wondering where I went wrong with it.

But I'll try those notes that need to be change and I probably will start scratch and watch the whole video to see if I get it working by throu that setup.

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Yeah, I used that same website to install Mavericks. I just had to follow the other guy's steps as well. At both steps 4.4 and 5.5, I used: GraphicsEnabler=No PCIRootUID=0 npci=0x3000 cpus=1

If that works for you, you should be able to get to Multibeast and select your parts. After that, I did everything I explained above.

Good luck!

Permalink 15 months ago
Anthony21 1 Build 2 points

while seeing what i can do, found some page to do this cmd PCIRoot=1 -x -v, that didnt work out right so i added the UID along with it, I got to the setup finnaly, problem is that I guess i cant split my Windows Drive along side with OS X Mavericks bc I cant erase it, i even deleted the partition throu windows 8.1 desktop manage, i even deleted that side throu a windows 8.1 setup via another USB drive. sees it as NTFS.

But at least I can get to the installation without any problems, bc now, after few hrs later i was getting the Apple Logo with a Do Not Enter sign above it.

wish i had the money for an SSD but saving up for the PS4, lol

Permalink 15 months ago
Anthony21 1 Build 1 point

update.

I'm finally up and running OSX Maverick, 2 days ago wince my os8.1 pro evualtion mode 2 hr shutdown, no longer activated, bought a 120 gb samsung pro ssd, took me about 4-7 hrs.

used the same flash drive i made since 2 months ago with no adjustment except for one time 2months ago, idr, final code i put down to 1st time access OS is "PCIRootUID=1 -x" and BANG, Setup came up. and no raid either, idk if i ever adjusted that part at all from 2 months ago to copy that key and put where ever, just "PCIRootUID=1" and then the "-x" with it.

All goto do is to make OSX to come up instead of my HDD even thou SSD is in first place to be boot up in bios.

Permalink 13 months ago
Starlana 2 Builds 3 points

I feel you on the RAM. I'm running my system on a 2 GB 1066 stick while I wait for G. Skill Sniper replacement to show up...teehee.

Permalink 15 months ago
SpoilerAlertPT 3 points

Really cool build! Loving the studio monitors

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

Thanks!!

Permalink 15 months ago
Austn 1 Build 3 points

I love the pictures' PoV and quality. +1 just for them!

You could use a bit more internal pictures though.

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Thanks! I tried taking more pictures of inside, but there really wasn't much to take a picture of. The parts that I bought weren't color-coordinated, and there were no LED's that would even make it near the borderline of aesthetic. =)

Permalink 15 months ago
osx_ftw 2 points

aye, *like button

Permalink 15 months ago

Woah, nice build, the pictures do it justice. what camera/lense did you use? i am planning on getting a dslr camera soon, leaning twords a cannon rebel t3i, but i may change my mind depending on what you are using

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Thanks! I used a Canon 70D with the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 lens.

Permalink 15 months ago
Itroitnyah 1 Build 3 points

How are you liking your KRKs? I personally have a set of Yamaha HS80M's, but I've heard great things about KRK

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 3 points

Honestly, I don't have much to compare them to. Just like you, I also heard great things about them, and they weren't over the borderline of being too expensive. That's why I decided to stay safe and just get these. I've owned the Logitech X-230 speakers before, and I thought they were great, but I decided to upgrade to something better and stumbled upon these KRK's.

They sound awesome, not too much bass and nicely equalized. I can't stand using my headphones when playing games, so I always keep my KRK's on.

Permalink 15 months ago
xx116xx 3 Builds 2 points

lolwut

Permalink 15 months ago
Mediciu5 2 Builds 2 points

Nice. Though after all that money into the SSD, MB, CPU, etc, why skimp on the Mouse, PSU, and HDD?

(Caveat is I don't know your financial situation nor do I want to, I'm just asking out of curiosity based on my own agenda)

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

I like my mouse. I've been using the G5 for almost 10 years now, and I'm too scared to switch to another. I don't have a store to simply test out other mice. Best Buy, Staples, etc. have crappy mice on their shelves.

I actually got the PSU a while ago because the price went down at one point, and I thought it was good enough. When the time comes, I'll shoot for the AX860i.

What's wrong with the Caviar Blacks? I need a media drive to dump all my photos and videos from my DSLR. When the prices go down, I'll be shooting for four 1TB Caviar Black HDD's in RAID 10.

Permalink 15 months ago
Kbur215 3 points

I don't think he was commenting on the quality of your HDD but rather the size compared to the rest of the rigs value. Also, if you're in the market for more HDD's look at the 3TB drives from your favorite companies. the 3TB are currently the price per gigabyte from almost all manufactures.

Permalink 15 months ago
Electrospeed 2 points

G500s or G700s would be my recommendation.

Permalink 15 months ago
Mediciu5 2 Builds 2 points

Sorry, I didn't mean that you shouldn't use what you want. I was just looking at the pricing of those items compared to what you spent on the other pieces in the build and they seemed "different".

I don't think the parts are bad, just outside the norm set with the other parts in the build. Me? I use a generic MS keyboard for gaming as size-wise it fits my limited retail space so I'm not knocking you.

As far as mice, I'll recommend the corsair M65. I like the weight, exterior feel, and the "sniper" button (slows the speed down temporarily - I would imagine FPS gaming or drawing could both use a finer touch intermittently). Or the Naga if you like MMORPGs (or anything where you're typing numbers not via the num pad).

As to the hard drive, I was thinking that to be in line with your build a 3 TB HDD would have seemed more normal. Not that you even need that much space - but again just seemed out of norm for the part costs.

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Oh, I'm still waiting for the prices of the hard drives to drop. I just had a 1TB Caviar Black in my HTPC that I simply removed in order to use it as a temporary media drive. I definitely want to upgrade this and get at least four 1TB Caviar Blacks in RAID 10. =)

Permalink 15 months ago
spencerharden 2 points

this does not make any sense at all

Permalink 15 months ago
Gidbrel 2 Builds 2 points

Have you tried using mac in an virtual environment?

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Nah, I wanted the real experience on a PC. That's why I got all those parts for this build. I already own a Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. I just wanted to see what it would be like using a Mac Pro. =)

Permalink 15 months ago
xx116xx 3 Builds 2 points

I love how the RAM you are waiting on is more expensive then my budget for a new computer...

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Lol, I know that's expensive. I might have to just settle for the 32GB.

Permalink 15 months ago
fsma92 2 Builds 2 points

how do you like the logitech g400?

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

It feels great! I've also used the G5 and MX518, both of which feel exactly the same as the G400. I used this type of mouse for about 10 years, and I have had no complaints. The G400, however, is lighter, and it doesn't have weights that you can stick it like the G5.

I don't need to mice that have tons of buttons all over. I play Dota 2, and using Alt+whichever key works great for me. =)

Permalink 15 months ago
fsma92 2 Builds 2 points

ok im got the g400s for 40$ I needed a comfortable mouse :p

Permalink 15 months ago
Expo 2 points

How is that gigabyte keyboard. I think its the only one that has cherry red switches and blue backlight. Im about to purchase it myself

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

I love just about everything on this keyboard. I can set up media keys at the very top, and this keyboard is backlit. I definitely wanted a mechanical keyboard that has media keys, and this was the next best thing. The only thing that irks me is the volume scroll wheel -- in order to mute my volume, I press on the wheel, but you kind of have to do it slowly, otherwise you could accidentally shift the wheel up or down after pressing the wheel, which cancels your muting.

There is an MX Cherry Brown keyboard for this! I just saw it on Amazon yesterday, BUT I'm not sure if it's backlit (blue backlight, at least).

I've thought about getting the Logitech G710+, but my Gigabyte backlit keyboard is blue, which I like a lot.

Permalink 15 months ago
Expo 2 points

Yea this is like the only blue backlit board with red switches(which are my favorite) Also the other gigabyte board with brown switches has a white backlit. But all in all I hope i love this keyboard.

Permalink 15 months ago
Mediciu5 2 Builds 2 points

So what do you use the studio monitors and m-audio for? Yes, I'm prying into your master plan for your rig.

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 2 points

Underneath my the table that my computer case is sitting on, I have my guitar pedals. I also have a mic condenser sitting off to the side, along with my guitars. I would use these to record stuff on Adobe Audition.

Permalink 15 months ago
Mediciu5 2 Builds 2 points

Fun! Thanks for the response.

Permalink 15 months ago
franwasd 1 point

Do you recomend buying that m-audio?

Permalink 3 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

No, buy the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2 In/2 Out USB Recording Audio Interface. My M-Audio died after a couple of years.

Permalink 2 months ago
TheTekJake 1 Build 2 points

I've gotta ask! How is that GTX 670 running with the triple monitors? I was going to get a 780 but I didnt think it could run 3 monitors without SLI

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

It runs well. I have two monitors connected via DVI and one monitor via HDMI. However, I don't use it in eyefinity mode. I tried it with my Radeon 6950's in Crossfire on my other desktop to play L4D2 and Battlefield, but I didn't like it.

On my GTX 670, I play my game on the middle monitor, and I use my other monitors to play a movies/shows and surf the web. All of my monitors run smoothly. I would have gone for two GTX 670's in SLI, but Adobe doesn't utilize more than one GPU in its programs. =\

Permalink 15 months ago
candy 2 Builds 1 point

Not enough RAM. Processor underpowered. Not enough ssds. Extremely cheap build and bad construction.

But srsly though nice build

Permalink 15 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 3 points

I know. The RAM was taken from my old computer for temporary use. I'm waiting for the 32GB or 64GB to go on sale xD

Permalink 15 months ago
ThePCguy2013 2 points

the i7 3930k will pwn the ass out of an fx-9590.

Permalink 15 months ago
candy 2 Builds 2 points

I was being sarcastic

Permalink 14 months ago
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JCorl 1 point

Looks very similar to MKBHD's Hackintosh. I have to imagine that was by design, haha. I'm currently waiting on my parts to a nearly identical build. Very nice setup!

Permalink 14 months ago
Scoutdrago3 1 point

I love the build, also using "focus" on a build with LEDs always makes it better. +1 c:

Permalink 14 months ago
athanagames 1 point

mkbhd anyone??

Permalink 14 months ago
jgadian 1 point

Are you MKBHD?

Permalink 13 months ago
Swainey97 1 point

great build wish i had it :D

Hows the BENQ monitor are the coours good and hows it perform in games since its a gaming monitor?

Permalink 13 months ago
Zaniest 1 point

What's the name of the desk your using? Please answer back. :)

Permalink 13 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

Some Ikea desk. I think it's called the Galant, but I think Ikea changed the name of it now.

Permalink 2 months ago
scorza 1 point

Reading comments and picturing you shoveling sticks of RAM into the computer with a shovel like a cartoon train engineer.

SOLID MACHINE!

Permalink 12 months ago
DasXero 1 Build 1 point

I have that mouse, and it's the greatest mouse I've personally ever used. It's so cheap too it's awesome.

Permalink 10 months ago
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dpandian174 1 point

sweet build +1

what camera did you use to take the pics??

Permalink 9 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

5d Mark III

Permalink 2 months ago
Ninjadudewhat 1 point

epic build, really like the clean look. also, what's that microphone thing plugged into the keyboard?

Permalink 9 months ago
expo_marker submitter 1 Build 1 point

Thanks. The mic is just some cheap thing that I found through Amazon. Works pretty well.

Permalink 2 months ago
ThePCguy2013 -4 points

if u want a mac, get a mac, if u want a pc, get a legit pc, not a hackintosh...

Permalink 15 months ago

Some people want to do iphone development without having to buy a mac

Permalink 14 months ago

Some of us want OS X without having to buy a Mac, either because they are overpriced or because Apple doesn't make the hardware configuration we want.

Permalink 11 months ago
wardoner 1 point

or apple is just not good

Permalink 11 months ago