Description

It's okay, I guess. It runs Minecraft at 480p at a locked 30 fps. Normal Settings.

In all seriousness, this is a pretty damn solid build. Came about when I decided to update my just-over three year old Razer Blade Pro. It was a fine machine, and is the one technological product I have NEVER had to call customer support for. No problems. I have a lot of appreciation for something like that. However, especially in the past year, I found the system was bottlenecked by both its 8GB of DDR3 ram and its meager (though good by 2012 standards) Graphics card. It struggled to run games at 30fps on its 17 inch 1080p display. It was livable, but nothing to celebrate.

It was around August that I began to seriously doubt its abilities to maintain 2016's best games. The keyboard would get really, really hot, and the fans sounded like they were about to wheeze and die. I then decided to start a parts list half seriously, but I stalled the effort as I wanted to wait for Kaby Lake. I am someone who hates to buy anything that is going to be replaced soon, so I thought waiting for the increased future-proofing would be worthwhile. Many people ask me if I am really depressed about waiting. To many, Kaby Lake was an uninspiring update that changed little. However, I am less disappointed than most; it gave me the legendary 5.0GHz overclock, as well as some better 4k processing ability. Am I blown back by the update? No, but it is most certainly the best QUAD core to date.

Around November, things got serious. Black Friday got me around $500 off, and I found out I had a connection that could get me $300 off the monitor. Plus, a very supportive family member helped me out with a $500 gift to help fund it (he is a computer guy). For those mathematically inclined, that's $1300 off the top. I began buying parts that I wanted, and committed to the effort.

Enter Chromatic, my 2017 Kaby Lake build.

I want to address three elephants in the room. I have a feeling that I will be grilled for these decisions later on, but I ask you guys hear me out.

  1. This PC will sit on my floor. Now before you guys get your pitchforks and torches, please hear me out. This is not an ideal situation for me. My desk is small (and possibilities of getting a bigger one are slim to none), and had much of its real estate divided into irremovable cabinets, which sit on either side of a gap large enough to fit a 28 inch monitor. Originally, I was going to place a very slim HTTPC-sized pc in a cabinet slot, which gave me very little room to work with. I would have had to go with a Thermaltake Core G3 or Node 202. Originally, this was my plan. However, it only works with single GPU setups, it is not particularly attractive, and requires this riser cable, which has a reputation for breaking and damaging parts. I had just two possible solutions. I could either put it all the way across my room using a 40-50 foot displayport-displayport cable. I didn't really like that idea, so I went with my only other option: putting it next to my desk on the floor. I can hear the jeers and boos. For the record, I agree with the crowd; I think it would be great if I could put it elsewhere. Where, however, is the issue.

  2. As you might have noticed, I like Razer. Cue the Corsair fanboys telling me the STRAFE or the K70 is better. Cue the Audiophiles telling me I could have gotten an Audiengine A2+ instead of the Leviathan. Cue the Sennheiser bunch telling me the MANO'WAR Sound Quality in comparison to some other headset. Allow me to address this systematically. Razer, as a whole, has been the only brand I have never had to call customer service for. Never, not once. This is the only company I have dealt with where this is the case. Everything just works, seamlessly at that. Synapse means I can control everything with one panel, including Chroma, which I believe is superior to all other RGB systems out there for its ease of use and customization. Now on to individual Razer peripherals. The Blackwidow (especially V2) is better than any of the K70s. People make the case that the metallic finish is better. However, given that the plastic used is both strong and smooth. I have never really longed for anything more. This is coming from someone who has both a Dell XPS 15 and a Razer Blade. I know the difference between metal and plastic, and it doesn't really bother me. As for mice, I see little difference between Razer's and any other ones. I concede, however, that audio quality on my leviathan, as well as on the MANO'WARs are less stellar than some of the competition. For the former, I chose to buy only because I got it at $120. It is half the price of most really, really good speakers. Plus, once you turn on the subwoofer, it can hang with some of them. The headset, however, is pretty good in terms of sound quality, but is probably beaten by some of the more dedicated audiophile-focused competition. That being said, I tried on a bunch of pairs, and these were by far the most comfortable. This is my opinion, feel free to disagree.

  3. "BUT RYFI! 1440p Widescreen is so much better than 4k." It doesn't fit where I need it to. "BUT RYFI! 1440p 144Hz is strictly better than 4k in games." Better Objection, but still not a good one. I got a Dell XPS 15 Laptop with the 4k touchscreen, and since then I cannot look at any other resolution the same way. I notice it, and it is obvious. Maybe I just have good eyes? I don't know, but I will disagree with anyone who thinks 4k is not the best.

I also want to point out that I bought my processor from siliconlottery. It was a 5.1GHz bin, which I bought to guarantee comfortable performance at 5.0 GHz. They held up their end, and I think it was worth the $80 premium.

I want to mention a couple things that went wrong during the build. First, the Motherboard has a very odd way by which one gets to the better positioned M.2 slot. You literally need to pry off the armor, use an amount of force that seems unnatural, and then pop it back in. As far as I can tell, I did it correctly, and it works. I then put the armor back on. Another motherboard issue required us to Flash the BIOS. My friend helped me with that part. As it turns out, there's a button on the motherboard that does just that. He helped me install the right drivers, however.

Second, I now HATE NZXT, and will no longer recommend their products to anyone. The X62 water cooler they gave me is off center, and the logo is about 5 degrees off perfect. In other words, it is kinda crooked, which bothers me to all hell. I was able to turn off the logo illumination in CAM and leave the ring illumination, but it was annoying nonetheless. The case they gave me has a massive crack along the glass panel. Again, way to fricking go NZXT. I reached out to them (put in a ticket) 4 weeks ago, and I have not yet gotten anything resembling a response.

My other big issue was that the graphics card, when paired with such a fat motherboard and a thin case, do not fit. Length isn't the issue, it was the with of the included chrome bracket. I used a hacksaw to remove a large part of that for each GPU, and that fixed the problem.

Annoyingly, I was supposed to get a 960 PRO for storage, but had my orders rejected after-the-fact on three occassions. Samsung then said it would be a month before they could get me one, then I withdrew my final order. Two days later, they had them everywhere. Thanks, Samsung... At least the 960 EVO is fast, too.

The case itself is a point of contention for me. On one hand, the Razer fanboy in me had to have a case with their sticker on it. This led me to either the Antec Cube (does not support SLI), the NZXT S340, and the NZXT H440. I had the money for the latter, but I like the minimalist rectangle design of the S340 more.

The power supply has worked well.

The monitor is a bit modded. Until I am able to mount it directly to the wall, it is actually on spray painted legs. They are green, to match my build, but the red Predator Logo on my bottom bezel still annoys me to all hell. I have found no solution, but would love to hear one!

FULL DISCLOSURE: I have not yet Overclocked the CPU nor have I done any stress testing. I will at some point, but have not yet felt the need to. Everything says it will get to 5Ghz, especially since Silicon Lottery certified it at 5.1GHz. Also, I may double my RAM. I find myself using close to 16GB at times with Chrome and a game open. Thinking about it.

So that is the build, everyone! I thought it was pretty good on paper, and it has shown me that it is more than capable of running games at whatever I want. I look forward to hearing some feedback. Let me know what boneheaded mistakes I've made, and please tell me how to correct them. It is my first build, so please go easy on me!

Part Reviews

CPU

Great processor, does what it is supposed to do.

CPU Cooler

On one hand, performance is excellent. Quality Control is taking a nap, however. Get this if you love your NZXT lighting to only be able to support a crooked logo.

Thermal Compound

Best paste on the market.

Motherboard

She's a fat one, but if you shoehorn her in just right, you can fit your graphics cards anyway. Some early BIOS issues lead me to take away a star, however.

Memory

It's RAM. Too bad its not RGB.

Storage

It's Fast. It's Storage. It's... that's about it...

Video Card

Tremendous card with great lighting. Overclocking is easy and successful.

Case

It's a solid budget case, but does not strike me as using space efficiently. Also, a little help from cable management would be nice, as would some decent QC. My glass panel was damaged upon arrival.

Power Supply

It's consistent. Nice Warranty.

Monitor

I wish this monitor was available without red like the X34.

Keyboard

Go Razer Master Race!

Headphones

Go Razer Master Race!

Speakers

Go Razer Master Race!

Comments

  • 33 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice popcorn poster

  • 33 months ago
  • 2 points

Lol. The puns tho! Great build with chroma lighting

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build, love the "POWERED BY RAZER" backplates. +1 :)

  • 33 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks. I bought them from V1Tech. They were really great about it. They are bright as about 9 blinding suns, so... really lights up the room!

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Goal accomplished, You made a monster out of Razer!

  • 33 months ago
  • 3 points

Not a sponsor, but should be.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

nice title

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Nah dude... That's powered by the spirit of the PC Master Race

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

tbh, and I am sorry to let everyone down, I don't think so. If it was possible to buy a prebuilt computer from Dell or something that had the same specs, I would probably have gone with that. Building it was a terrible, frustrating experience. Although I know there are some prebuilt ones that do such a thing, most are red which doesn't match anything I have. Oh well...

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

it's always frustrating, especially the first time. dont get yourself down over it.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Name suggestion :

Chromaddict

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

I kinda already came up with that. It sounds like Chrome Adict....

In random news, I really dislike chrome. Blacking everything out is almost strictly better.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

In random news, I really dislike chrome. Blacking everything out is almost strictly better.

You don't really have any chrome, anyway. =D

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

I see that you have gotten the NVIDIA HB SLI Bridge in your partslist but one the pictures you have the one installed that came with the motherboard. Is there any reason ?

But still a pretty nice build even looking at it as a non razer fan (Razer Kraken died 5 times on BUT got replaced by them every time) +1 :)

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Forgot to change that! Basically, my friend screwed me on that one. Told me to return the two slot to get the four slot. I did that, but realized I needed the three slot. Didn't care enough to send it back again.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi bro , please give me your page on facebook . I want to contact with u and ask u some questions about your build and your monitor Acer XB271HK . How u find it ? Is this 4k ips version worth it or Acer XB281HK with Tn panel enough for best experience for gaming ? Is the picture and colors worth it ?

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

I am going to be frank here. I am not good with any of that stuff. It looks good. I chose this for the small bezel and the fact that I could get a solid discount on it. Monitors are too expensive atm tbh. I would say any 4k Gaming Monitor With G-Sync would be ideal, which narrowed my choices down to just thw ASUS ROG and the ACER PREDATOR.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

I can, however, tell you that it looks very good. Though that comes from someone who has never had a desktop, so take it with a grain of salt.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok , can u make some reviews for it on youtube such as the witcher 3 , bf1 , Doom the division , far cry primal , rise of the tomb raider and .....etc ? And this HDR game (shadow warrior 2 ) .

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

I mean, I think it is the best 27 inch 4k monitor on the market, especially with G-Sync. You need to decide if you want G-Sync. If you do, then you only really have two options: The ROG and the PREDATOR. Check those out. If you do not, then you have a ton of options and a cheaper screen will do. It's up to you. That being said, I don't know how much I want to get into recording...

There's little to no blacklight bleed, from what I can tell.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

One thing I should add - I have never seen anything at or above 70 celsius. I haven't even seen the processor go over 55 or so, and that was when it was video processing.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

how long did it take you to type that

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

maybe 45 minutes... i only get to make one of these per build, trying to make it worth it.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

XD

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

i'm curious to know, what the hell is a noctua de-browning kit? and why is it $60?

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Well, technically that was $16. I think I just can't type lol

It's just the vibration pads and whatnot that you can buy from Noctua in black.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

oh, the chromax anti vibration pads. those run about $8-10. that would mean the $40 is for the fans?

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

tbh i made that parts list a month or two ago. Just got around to making this. Not sure what that was for, but that sounds right, actually.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Does the Kraken RGB work with the ASUS motherboard Aura software? Can you control it? I've not found a cooler that says it will sync with Aura.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

It works at the same time, but they use different softwares. You can control both, but I would NOT recommend any NZXT products due to terrible customer service and poor QC. Get an H115i, H110i v2, or even a Swifttech Model.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for the advice!

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

perfect bulid pls give me a feedback in my first pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bjHvYr

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

It's good, but there are a few changes I'd make. I will try to suggest one set of changes that keeps the net cost around the same, and one that costs more, but with better performance.

  1. I would choose a secondary color. All I see is Black on Black on Black, and I think it would be better if you chose a blue/orange/etc. to sort of make it less dark.
  2. I personally don't like that case, though many do. For that price area, I would go the IN WIN 805 Infinity, or maybe even the Corsair 570X Tempered Glass, or even certain H440s if you want a specific color scheme. These are not the only options, but I think they are the best.
  3. That RAM is a total waste, especially when this build has such little silver. Assuming you dont want to spend $600 on the blackout edition, I would say go with either the G.Skill 3200 Hz Black and White ram, or splurge on the RGB stuff. I think 3200 Hz is the sweet spot in terms of price.
  4. That SSD is a let down, compared to how expensive this build otherwise is. Grab an M.2, maybe a 960 Evo. 500 GB, as I think 250 will fill up fast. I'm assuming this is a gaming PC only.
  5. Make sure the GPU you are getting has the new faster memory. GDDR5X or something like that.

If you want to spend more...

  1. Still go with the secondary color, and probs one of those case options
  2. Get a 1080 ti. Those from Zotac are insane looking, though ASUS is represented well there too.
  3. Get a 960 Evo 500GB or a 960 PRO 512GB, depending on how much $ you want to spend.
  4. Still change the RAM. Perhaps RGB G.Skill here.
  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the feedback, i want to keep the pc black because i like to change the color theme and if i will buy a red ram, red cables and red fans it will not be possible with such an effect. The ram is an good idea. The m.2 ssd is to expensive for me and it just faster in files transfering with i dont do very often.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm not necessarily saying that. I would say you could either get a case with some nice LEDs (again, the 570X and the 805 Infinity both have a lot of RGB lighting), would allow you to keep the black theme, but still have a substantial third color. Plus, you could go with a black/white/color build, where the color is RGB. This makes it less monotonous, and isn't too bad on the eyes either.

You would go MSI Gaming Titanium/G.Skill Black and White RAM 3200/Zotac 1080/etc.

TBH I got an M.2.. Didn't think it would be as useful as it is. For instance, most of the time, booting takes less than 20 seconds. Games launch instantly. I went from some crappy laptop SSD though to the 960 EVO, so I missed a lot of the comparisons in between. Not sure.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice Razer themed build! +1 Are the 2 GTX1080's REALLY necessary??...

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

What annoys me is that I looked at the benchmarks. For instance, i play GTA V a lot. One 1080 gets about 54-56 FPS at 4k resolution. Of course, when paying that much already, I would expect 60. Unmovable 60. The Titan X is able to get mostly 60, the 1080ti is too, but the former is $1200 and the latter was not our yet. So I got 2x 1080s. "But you could have gotten 2x 1070s and would have saved $400!" True, but then performance in games with poorly optimized SLI would not do as well. In summary, no 1080ti makes me sad.

  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

It's definately understandable and I agree completely. If your on 4K and want to future proof your build then definately worth it. Thanks for that.

  • 31 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey nice build mate!

I'm looking at buying the Asus Strix gtx1080 OC (O8G) like yours but have read a tonne of bad reviews about their fans and defecting. They're apparently very loud and either spin like crazy and at different speeds or not at all :/

Any news on how yours is going?

TIA :)

  • 31 months ago
  • 2 points

Subjectively speaking, it's pretty quiet. I can't hear it (I don't even think they spin) below a certain threshold. After that, it is not too bad. At worst, it's comparable to a light buzz. I can't speak to the issues you are describing. Whereas I have not experienced those issues, I could have just gotten some lucky examples.

I would probably take the Zotac AMP! Extreme over the 1080 OCG. I just got it for unity with my motherboard. If you have no such brand loyalty, go with the Zotac. Maybe even splurge on a cheaper 1080ti instead of a really expensive 1080. Depends on your needs.

  • 30 months ago
  • 1 point

do both video cards run at 8x pcie speed?

  • 28 months ago
  • 1 point

I have no idea. Both appear to work flawlessly. have yet to have a problem.

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build, and very wise buying the CPU from Silicon... great folks, great service, and they definitely know what they're doing.

  • 24 months ago
  • 1 point

Builds are always better in green or blue to me. Awesome review man, very well documented and gives great insight on different parts. Also gave me a couple ideas. Might just grab another GPU and run SLI myself....

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  • 33 months ago
  • 1 point

Will upload some when I get home. I will take off the side panel and see if I can get some interior shots. without the fuzzy glass in the way.

Thanks, though!