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My first ever build, I tried to keep it under $1000 without sacrificing on any parts. Had a video card, but realized it would be better to get a better overall build instead of giving up in some areas, so I removed that and built a better one overall. I know it's not perfect, not NEAR perfect, and I know I gave up in some areas, but that's what's expected from a 13 year old, I guess XP

Overall, the build is solid. I love the case, the CPU fan is dead silent (Though I had SERIOUS trouble mounting it on, it took me 3 days :O), the SSD is snappy, the motherboard is drop dead incredible, and the power supply is pretty great, too. I don't regret a single thong, I love the build, it's just awesome :D

I don't know what's the deal with Windows 8.1, but I love it. I already have a Microsoft Surface RT (Which I'm typing on right now) that's equipped with Windows 8.1. I just downloaded a simple feature called Classic Shell, which basically eliminates the app screen and gives back the start button from Windows 7.

And I'm going to be honest, I doubted gaming on Intel HD 4600 graphics. But I'm taken back by how much better it is than people make it out to be. Probably because my whole life I've gained on a console, and the because I've never experienced what it is like having a graphics card. But I'm running Skyrim with over 70 mods at 720p on a mix of Low/Medium settings and I usually stay at 40 FPS. I kid you not. And that's with FRAPS running (Which is pretty demanding).

The only problems I had were trying to get the fan mounted and getting the IO shield on (Which, unfortunately, I could not). Other than that, it was a smooth ride.

All on all, the system is fantastic. I found more pride in myself for building it. I also found it quite funny how my parents/relatives doubted that a 13 year old could build a computer. Right now, I'm saving up for a video card, but also am waiting for an HDD that hasn't arrived from Amazon yet. All in all, it was worth it :)

EDIT: Lol, put in the wrong prices for the RAM and Motherboard. RAM was $95 and motherboard was $180 with $40 discount :O

EDIT 2: Everybody, please ignore the Canada prices. The build was $855 USD. NOT CAD.

Comments

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

That 's some cable management skills you got there. How's the MX100? I want a good but cheap SSD.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Lol, thanks! Yes, the MX100 is serving me very well. For $100-110 you can't beat it!

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't think you sacrificed on any parts but went a little overkill on some others, like the ram and mobo. Trust me, you need a video card for gaming. I think you did a really good job though in terms of part choice, and pretty well in assembly.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Lol, yeah, I know I went overkill, the thing is, the motherboard was $180 at Microcenter at the time, and if I purchased it with either an i5-4690k or i7-4790k, then I got a 40$ discount, so technically, the motherboard was $140, which just couldn't be beat. And I was going to get G.Skill Ripjaws RAM, however, they don't sell them at the Microcenter closest to me, and the Vengeance was the only one that was under $100 and matched the color scheme of the motherboard.

And yes, I know I need a video card, which is why I'm desperately saving for a GTX 970. But by the time I get that money, the R9-380X will be the best value choice (From Rumors), so it's really hard :P And yes, I know that's the way the computer world works, which can suck really hard or be really awesome.

But thank you for your judgment :)

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

No problem! I've seen the rumors too, and it seems like the 380x will be out in February right? Also, it'll be cool to see what kind of performance gains 20nm has if AMD ends up going with that. Have fun with your computer!

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks bud! :D

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

From leaked benchmarks, the 380x will crush the 980, let alone the 390x, which is gonna be up there with the 980 Ti. It will use a lot less power, less than the 780, only a few more watts than the 980, and run a lot cooler as a result. It is likely that the results are fake, but I still expect a lot from the 300 series. We will have to wait until Slick benchmarks them, and then we will know how they stack up against the 980 and 970. I hope they do well.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Can't Wait!

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

me too =P I'm really excited that I actually have enough money to build a computer, but waiting a month or two never hurt. I wonder what it will cost, though. hopefully it's in the same range as the 970 or cheaper.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

i like it! +1

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! :D

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome build man! May not be the best for gaming, but these are really fast, high quality parts. A GTX 970 would top this off and make it one super kickass computer. Nice job and nice cable management!

Edit: I read your other comment. Yes, all the way, save up for the 300 series from AMD. It looks like it really going to be beast, and leaked benchmarks show the 380x destroying the 980, and using a lot less power than the previous gen cards, only a little more wattage than the 980, but far less than the 780 and 780 Ti.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Thank you! Yup, I really don't mind 30 FPS, especially when you come from console gaming all of your life :P And yup, the 380X should be a behemoth, it should destroy Maxwell while being almost as efficient and not even being AMD's flagship card :D Honestly, AMD looks like their taking the crown this year if the rumors are true, and 2015 should be a war!

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

How do you find a CPU cooler that is too large for the H440? that is a feat my friend.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

It isn't too large...?

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Oh, sorry. One of the pics it looks like the fan went farther then the side of the tower, and I did not noticed a pic with it boxed up. Oops. :)

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Oh, yeah, I see what you mean, lol. I posted another pic with the side panel on.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Please get an AIO ! waste of beautiful motherboard if you leave that air cooler there :(

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, I know :( It was a Christmas gift, so O had no other option, you know D: Fortunately, when I stack up the money, I'm going to buy a Swiftech H240-X, and when I'm ready, make a custom loop :D Besides, even though it takes away some beauty, I'm running Prime95 with a max temp of 48°C, and this is the quietest fan I've ever heard. Not only that, it took me 3 days to mount it, I don't want to put that hard work to shame, you know?

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Sounds awesome!

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

How is the PH-TC14PE? do you like it? recommend it or maybe i can get the single fan version PH-TC12DX?

also may i ask why did you add external thermal compound?

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Hi! In terribly sorry for the late response, I haven't been on my account in a while. Anyways, to answer your question, yes, the fan is incredible. Under full load my CPU stays at 45C and you literally cant hear it. However, do I like it? In all honesty, this thing is huge. No, I mean HUGE, they dont lie when they say that. The thing is about 3cm away from touching he side panel. It is the best looking air cooler out there, sure, but trust me, it ruins the aesthetic look of the PC alot. Just because its the best looking doesnt mean it looks good. I bought matching colored RAM for my PC and am now regretting it because I cant even see the RAM sticks! Not only that, but I am telling you this personally, this thing was so hard to get on it may have given me PTSD. It took me 3 WHOLE DAYS to get it on because the screws must be screwed in simultaneously together, but if one is screwed in ever so slightly more than the other, then the other peice doesnt screw in which makes one part of the fan just hanging loose while the other is tied in tight as can be . I still hate the thought of it, terrible.

So honestly, considering all of the above, even though it is the quiet and coolest fan I've ever heard of, I'd advise away from it. In fact, I'd advise away from any air cooler, but only if your an aesthetic guy and have a high tolerance for annoyance. Their big and take up the whole view of your PC, look ugly, and put a lot of weight and pressure on the motherboard. So save up money and listen to me when I say GO GET A SWIFTECH H240-X!! Please, do not go through my pain! Next Christmas I'm putting this thing on EBay and making a custom loop, I've invested too much in things of beauty to be shadowed by this big behemoth!

Lol, sorry for the rant, and to your other question about external thermal paste, it was only for longevity and thermals as they drastically decrease temperatures and last long. But only if you get the right thermal compound, I'd advise Arctic Silver MX-4, best one out there and does the trick for $5.

Happy Gaming, I hope you build your computer soon!

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Wow. thanks for your amazing answer.

I do understand what you are saying. actually i already bought all my parts except the cpu cooler.

What i'm also afraid like you, is the asthetics, i also did match motherboard and ram colors, you can check my build in my profile to think with me.

Also i do know that custom loop cooling is the best but i dont want to pay 150$ for a cpu cooler, so i guess it will be either this Phanteks AIR cooler, or one of the AIO liquids (maybe corsair h105 or h110).

what would you do if you were me??

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey, no problem, just don't rush your thoughts. First, I'd like to know your budget, and you already know that plays a huge role. Now, the question between the H105 and the H110. In all seriousness, they are good air cooler. GOOD, dont get me wrong, however, I would avoid Corsair water coolers unless your on a budget. They cool pretty nicely and aren't bad in terms of noise, but they do not come with strong pumps. This is kind of an issue, you will hear the thing and it won't cool the best. In fact, the H110 gets beat by a lot of air coolers in both aesthetics and acoustics. What I do recommend about them is their warranty. I've heard reports of Corsair replacing every part damaged in your system if the water cooler fails on you. That let alone can be the reason you pick Corsair, or maybe not.

So, I say it all comes down to this: If you have a sound dampening case or just don't mind noise, then take a quick look at the Corsair H110. If you don't mind having higher temperatures than if you were to buy, say, a Phanteks or Noctua air cooler, but still remain pretty cool thermals, then grab an H110. You most likely won't regret it. However, don't want one of the above? Then read my paragraph below. Otherwise, good luck with your new Corsair water cooler :)

Ok, if you don't want what comes packaged with their water cooler, then I'd advise you slightly extend your budget. Not $15 or anything like that, but you need to shell out an extra $30. Why? To get the BEST Closed Loop Cooler on the market right now. I'm pretty sure that you've heard of the NZXT Kraken X61? Because this cooler comes 2nd behind the one I suggested earlier, the Swiftech H240-X. This stomps on every air and water cooler behind the 240-X. It cones with a nice customizable LED lit NZXT logo on the front that you can control with software, and I've dealt with NZXT personally about a defective case, and they shipped me another one 2 days later with free shipping, no charge for anything. Anyways, the cooler is dead silent, looks beautiful, and has awesome thermals, so if you can extend your budget to $140, then this is the cooler to get.

I understand if you can't extend your budget. I've felt the pain of that too, I had to give up a video card in order to not pass my money restrictions. However, whether you choose one cooler or another, your buying from quality brands that will provide incredible service and an incredible product. Yes, one is better than the other, but one also costs more than the other. It all comes down to the most powerful force in the universe: budget. Lol, no just kidding, but seriously, you'll be happy with both depending on which you get. Just know that I am a biased source as I cannot provide hands on experience, but only with what I read from customer experiences or hands on reviews from sites like Tom's Hardware or from people like Linus or JayzTwoCents et cetera. Just know that your getting a quality product, and though I can't assure that personally, reviews definitely can.

Good luck with your build!!

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks again for so much sharing your thoughts.

Its not like i have a minimum budget or so but im not an extreme overclocker. this is the first pc i ever built and i will want to overclock it but i'm not sure how much. i guess it will also be in a late time - an half a year from now ..

the choose for premium air cooler was just so i can have an option for future high overclock. if i would go liquid i see it is much expensive and i'm not sure if its worth for me.

i did hear about nzxt kraken. actually i was sure the second premium liquid after the Swiftech would be the Cooler Master Nepton 240M. well i also do understand what you are saying about corsair and all. im not sure if their warranity about all the parts will be for me too because i live in Israel and i will buy the parts from Amazon. Also note that there is a new product names Corsair H100i GTX.

Anyway i think the price between the nzxt x61 to the swiftech is about 10$ so if this are my 2 options i would go for the swiftech..

I'm not sure what to do actaully. i'm looking for an answer about a cpu cooler for 3 months already. still can't decide what should i get :(

  • 52 months ago
  • 1 point

Ok then, there's no problem with that. Three questions though:

1) Which do you prefer, air or water? Yes, water is good for overclocking and so are premium air coolers, and basically they can both achieve the same results with water having a bit more headroom. So it all comes down to which you actually want.

2) Would you be willing to shell out the extra money for a water cooler? They are expensive but tend to be quiet and chilly. Not only that, but the Swiftech H240-X is the one of the only, if not the only, pre assembled water cooler that can be expanded. Like adding more tubes to cool GPU, motherboard, etc. It all comes down to whether your willing to spend more.

3) Do you have a side window? You said you were an aesthetic person, so that alone could make a big difference. If you want a water cooler and have a side window, it could be a no brainer.

Oh, and I would NEVER buy an H100i. The thing is literally as loud as a vacuum cleaner. Quite literally, actually, it is 68 decibels, which is so loud it'd drive you insane.

Dont worry, no pressure, your thinking too hard about it. Just answer those questions and re evaluate on what you really want and make a decision. Just think it through because 3 months is a damn long time to not have a good official cooler for your system. It could really hurt your processor.

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice. I like the white casing and the cpu cooler. BTW, did the fan block any GPU slot or the RAM slot? Cause I plan to get vengeance pro as well..

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey, sorry for the late reply! Actually, the RAM JUST FIT. Like, as in the fan and the RAM were literally less than half a centimeter apart.

Right now I'm having trouble because I plan to buy a GPU but the PCI X16 slot doesn't have a lot of room. I'm afraid that the GPU wont fit. Do you have any expertise in this area. Can I instead just ignore the PCI x16 and just install it on the x8 slot?

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

I just finish building my desktop. You should have enough space for the 16x slot. However, if I am not mistaken, both the red slot for GPU works as 16x if you plug in only one. Double check on that before you proceed.

Update me after you find it out as well.. Thanks!!

  • 51 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, I just found that out about 2 hours ago when searching for answers!

Good Luck with your new desktop, I'll be sure to update you when I get the video card :)

  • 44 months ago
  • 1 point

What kind of PC building pro doesn't get a graphics card wtf......and what rez is that 200x500....oh and you got this for christmas.....get a ******* job you child

  • 44 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey *******. Maybe you hadn't realized, but my uses and priorities at the time didn't concern a GPU. Also, I'm using an R9 290x now. So go whine somewhere else.

Where did I ever claim I was a pro? I consider myself one right now but you seem oblivious to the fact that budget plays a huge role on building a PC.

Second of all, at the time it was a 1360x768 monitor. I also now have an ASUS 1440P IPS monitor.

And third of all. I DO have a job. Sorry that child labor laws restrict me from making nearly as much as somebody with an actual vocation. Now back the hell off.

  • 43 months ago
  • 1 point

oh im sorry was backing off what you did in my comments....no plus i would understand the budget thing...considering yur a child and you have to get yur parents to buy you yur pc...instead of getting a damn job...and if you were an adult you wouldnt respond to me like that.

  • 42 months ago
  • 1 point

My parents didn't buy my parts bud, I have a job and work for my money! You people always jump to conclusions and completely ignore what I say, and disregard all of my points!

And are you serious in saying that only you have the right to attack somebody because you were mad? How about you learn to control your emotions and figure out how to not be an entitled douchebag.

  • 43 months ago
  • 1 point

K yu know wut im done arguing with you....this is against my own rules...id agree i was a **** but you shouldn't respond as one... I dont go to online social media and pick fights its not what i do...it pisses me off i was in a bad mood that day and it was literally comment after comment of disbelief of temperatures that were a typo because it was 1 in the morning when i made that page. I didnt actually mean any of that stuff i said on yur build ...but still that rez was pretty bad...i was just trying to show you what it felt like.

  • 54 months ago
  • 0 points

Definitely not going to get a +1 from me. What I don't think you understand is that your supposed to sacrifice on other parts to GET a video card. You did the exact opposite. Also, for gaming, you NEED a graphics card to enjoy yourself. If your going to spend 1k on a build, at least get all the parts.

  • 54 months ago
  • 3 points

Thanks for your honesty, at least. I know, as I said there are some areas were I may have messed up, and pretty badly :P But I felt that when you try to keep a system under $1000, trying to actually get a video card that's not weak can be quite a difficult task. You must sacrifice a very large part of your budget and sacrifice quite a lot on other components to get it in there. I mean, if I was to get a video card, I'd most likely have to give up the SSD along with the motherboard and the case, etc. To me, a better overall system is the better overall choice.

And to be quite frank, the Intel HD 4600 iGPU is extremely underrated. Literally, I'm on 65 mods on Skyrim, most which are visual mods, texture replacers, and lighting mods, and maintaining anywhere from 40-50 FPS (On Medium settings at 720p, yes, 720p, before you say anything). I even overclocked the 4600 itself to 1.45 GHz, which significantly increased performance. Can it game like a video card? Nowhere close. Can it game though? Of course.

And when you say get all of the parts, I never remembered hearing that a video card was a required part. In fact, just by reading your comment, I'm actually liking my choice. So when I actually do get a video card, the performance will be so awesome, that I'd be blown away. All of that amplified by the fact that I game on Intel HD graphics :D

But your entitled to your own opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. So I respect your thoughts and output. Have a good day.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Totally agree. I've been running most of my games on a laptop for several years, and most play relatively smoothly (the few that don't have little to do with the GPU). Now, a dedicated graphics card is a huge improvement, but it is not strictly necessary for many games, especially if you don't care about getting to 60 FPS.

I got a 280 on sale while waiting for the 300 series to come out (I plan on giving it to a family member as an upgrade), but if that's not in your budget, then waiting is definitely a perfectly valid option, especially because so many things were on sale over the holidays and it would seem silly to wind up spending more on your whole build just to get a part that isn't strictly necessary.

BTW, I like your using Classic Shell. I still personally prefer Windows 7, but Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell is probably the better option from a purely technical standpoint.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Yes, Intel HD graphics can still pull off a few frames on games that aren't over the top graphically intensive (Looking at you Crysis 3) or games that aren't well optimized (Don't think I forgot about you, Unity).

The 280 is still an incredible card for the price. And with the 300 series coming out and what not, AMD may actually take the price/performance crown this year.

Ah, yes, Classic Shell is great! It actually eliminates the app menu, brings back the Start button (though not the Windows 7 default), and the best part is...it' free! In fact, I'll upload some pictures of it :)

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

He's going to get the 380x later. What he did was very smart, in that he is going to get the main parts for his computer now, and then buy the 380x when it comes out, so he at least has a working computer at the moment, and then can get a good graphics card later.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Bingo!

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

And here I am with my Nvidia GT 430.

  • 54 months ago
  • 2 points

Perfect time to upgrade, huh? XD

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

yep