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The Struggle continues

by Shotties

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Date Published

July 18, 2017

Date Built

July 16, 2017

CPU Clock Rate

5.1GHz

CPU Temperature Under Load

84.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.56GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

11.0GHz

GPU Temperature Under Load

72.0° C

Description

I love hearing feedback whether you like or dislike something, so please leave a comment letting me know if you love it or hate it, or what you would have done differently if it was yours. Thanks for taking the time to look at my build.

After a good three + years of my 4790k build, it was time to move on. I know on paper this wasn't a good choice, but I'm happy with how everything turned out and the performance is fantastic.

Most recent upgrades: i7 7700k, 16GB DDR4 3000 Dominator Platinums, Asus Z270i mobo, 512gb 960 pro m.2 ssd, Ensourced.net custom cables, a different 1080 ti, mx master mouse...holy crap did I actually just upgrade this entire computer? That wasn't the goal. Frick! Also wall mounted the monitor and ran all the cables behind the wall.

i7 7700K - Delidded - 5.1ghz @1.345v - 82C max after passing an hour of ROG realbench. Noticibly faster than the 4790k.

Noctua NH-C14 - Still can't believe I found one new in box when they don't make them anymore. This cooler works great and fits perfectly.

Thermal Grizzly - I'm cheating on my NT-H1 with this paste. It's delicious. I buy the big tubes so I can use it as icing on cupcakes.

Asus Z270i - The aesthetics are exactly what I was looking for. Silver and black matched perfectly, and I was able to change the RGB lights to white. The bios is stupid easy, and the software they provide is intuitive. 10/10 Asus. I'll have a hard time choosing another brand motherboard in the future.

Dominator Platinums - I don't need the RGB fotm. I prefer silver and black and these matched well.

Samsung 960 Pro - I really didn't need this. I can't tell a difference between the m.2 and my sata drive.

Samsung 850 Pro - Rock solid. Will last me a long time.

GTX 1080 Ti - The first one I owned was a reference model but it made too much noise so I bought another one.

Corsair SF 600W - This is a power supply.

Windows 10 Pro - ofc

Noctua NF-F12 - These fans are dope. You should go buy some.

Dell U3415W - #REGERT. Will be upgrading when a new Asus ultrawide gets introduced.

MX Master - My Ducky was dying so I ran to best buy and bought this. Works fine but I'm looking for something different. Not sure what at the moment.

DSX Mechanical Keyboard - Massdrop board with mx blues. I'm looking for one with mx browns so hit me up if you have one.

HD650 - These cans are fantastic. I want to be buried in them when I'm dead.

Schiit Stack - This works fine.

AT2020 USB - I dig this mic. Sounds good and all that. It had some god awful blue led on it though. I disassembled the mic and cut the wire to the LED so the blue wouldn't throw off my color coordination. White LED power bb!

NCASE M1 V5 - If you've worked with this case before then you're fully aware that it is nothing but quality. Went ahead and did the power switch mod because I think it looks bangin.

Ensourced Cables - I was finally able to catch Joey when he was taking orders. Friggen $200 worth of cables later and I couldn't be happier. It's my third set from him and I'll keep going back because quality, and #moremoneythanproblems

Toxic SPC Cable - Sennheiser pulled this hilarious prank and included a ten foot cable with the 650's so I needed a shorter one. Decided to special order from Toxic. Incredible quality from that guy. Took like five months to get it but it was worth the wait.

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frostmaster468 16 points 4 months ago

wait, what? 5.1GHz? WOW

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 7 points 4 months ago

24/7 stable. 5.2 crashes after 15 minutes =(

ar10ef 4 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

How's the temps at idle?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

34C for the CPU and 52C on the GPU.

ar10ef 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Do you have any idea why I get 45C+ for my 7700K at idle even though I delidded it with Conductonaut? I OC'ed it to 5GHz @1.35V and it only reached 78C at 100% usage

shreduhsoreus 6 Builds 8 points 4 months ago

Silicon lottery, honestly.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

I would leave HWMonitor on over night and in the morning check to see what the minimum was on the core package. My idle temps bounce around from 33-45 and we are right around the same voltage so that seems standard.

Holzkohlen 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I was going to ask how he did it, but he delidded it. I keep forgetting that this is a thing with Intel CPUs.

PCclockWork 3 Builds -3 points 4 months ago

Its a thing with AMD CPUs as well but not as much.

Planemaster 4 points 4 months ago

There's no point in de-lidding AMD chips as they are already soldered on...

PCclockWork 3 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

It still doesn't stop people from delidding them. Someone was able to delid a Ryzen chip using some sort of desoldering tool he made, although that was more for scientific purposes rather than for improving performance.

Planemaster 1 point 3 months ago

Of course, people only found out that you can't make Delidding Ryzen chips a "thing" because they had to de-lid them in the first place.

Now, no one de-lids Ryzen because we know from other people there is no point. It was never a "thing"

PotentialPit 1 point 4 months ago

they do have the noctua which can be better than aoe

Obamas.mama 3 Builds 8 points 4 months ago

Honestly I hate you, hate's not the right word.. I envy you to thr point of hate. Haha! Dude if you changed your gpu to the ftw and your monitor to anything above 60 hz :p it would be the PERFECT setup and you probably wouldn't have it for long because I don't know who you are, or where you live, but I will find you, and I will steal your setup. +infinity -Your secret admirer

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 4 points 4 months ago

The FTW wouldn't fit otherwise it would be in there right now XD

Agree again on the monitor. Asus is supposedly coming out with a 3440x1440 200hz monitor later this year that I will be picking up.

Obamas.mama 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Is the ftw pcb longer? Never held a reference pcb :p i only have ftw cards

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

The PCB is longer, but that's not the problem. The card is also wider. The width of the case is 160mm. The FTW3 card is 143mm so even with right angle pcie connectors the side panel will not fit.

Obamas.mama 3 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

Oh... dang that's too bad, oh well. Great setup man, keep opening my phone to look at it

andlaw 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago
Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Yeah that! I have cash ready let's go Asus!

andlaw 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

it definitely meets all my requirements, sadly it wont be till the end of the year tho but good things take time :)

Caedonanewman 1 point 3 months ago

is going with a 1440 really worth it? If for any reason you had to scale down to 1080, well, you couldnt. Looking into a new monitor as well! Any suggestions and help is appreciated

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I've had the dell monitor for years and haven't needed to scale down ever. So I don't think it would affect you if you went 1440. I got my stepson the 27" 1440p 165hz Predator and he loves it. I love it too. I would definitely recommend it.

auldae 1 Build 6 points 4 months ago

This is such a good build that I don't even like the fact that it exists. +1

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

Best comment so far. It makes me equally happy and sad at the same time.

shreduhsoreus 6 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

Definitely deserves a feature if you ask me. The whole setup looks amazing! And the PC build itself is awesome too, awesome idea for the CPU heatsink. What would also be cool is if the case had a partial glass side panel, showing off the GPU(similar to what you did with the last 2 pics, with the side panel off).

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks. Funny enough, it got featured before when it didn't look as good several months back. I think they try to avoid featuring the same build twice and I don't blame them.

I often times find myself pulling the side panel off and staring at the gpu and fans pretending that it's a glass window XD

floridaboz 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

and now it is featured

WirelessCables 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

It's clean and simple. I like.

+1

Samu3l 2 points 4 months ago

Wow, very sexy & very clean. +1!

Ahryi 2 points 4 months ago

+1 for the Uber Schiit stack/HD 650's. And for delidding. And for taking such great pictures. And for making such a gorgeous build.

Radox-0 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Love the build, clean and minimalist and the case is stunning. Easy +1

Sam_Flynn 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

Remind me not to have your cupcakes...

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Is the gray icing not good enough for you??

Sam_Flynn 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

If I have hot spicy food or cold ice cream, it might work though...

TaKo-Tech 2 points 4 months ago

I envy that cable management work!!!

FlipLaw 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

I dig it dude. Looks good.

Meithen 2 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

You did a really nice job, it's very clean. Excellent!

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks!

Sobornost 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

Not a inch to spare. No, more like a millimeter to spare.

MayhemDarkshadow 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

"This is a power supply"

"Dear God"

"There's more"

"No"

In all seriousness super sick build

TheSemiGloriousPCMR 2 points 4 months ago

+1 for Mini ITX

Jackson_Tyler96 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

YES SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE **** THEY ARE DOING WITH AUDIO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

-Owner of HD 600, LCD-2, and Focal Elear

EndTheFed 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Nothing to dislike here at all!!

I love the case and I love the build. Well done and grats on getting featured!

Nater650 2 points 4 months ago

Congrats on being featured

Tech22 1 Build 2 points 3 months ago

That's some clean schiit right there! +1 I don't think it could look any cleaner and better.

fynn.co 2 points 3 months ago

nice small, clean build... like it

s.a.wood15 2 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

So much win. +1

plzDonateAgame 2 points 1 month ago

Is this heaven?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

It might be!

plzDonateAgame 2 points 1 month ago

Thank you for bringing this beautiful creation into the world. If only I could muster such art.

frankalank 1 point 4 months ago

This is wonderful and has made my recent interest in mitx grown even more! -___-;;

What is your noise levels like? Does this case come with dust filters or did you add your own?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thank you.

Using the Asus AI suite 3 fan software on the turbo setting, the fans are slightly audible from less than two feet away. I can't hear it at all under full load when I have my headphones on.

It comes with filters, but DEMCIfilters catch a lot more dust.

joshzpants 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Dang, your whole setup and rig is making my mouth water, great work

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I'm glad you like it.

Cromic0872 5 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

That is one awesome looking build! The Noctua cooler is one good looking, industrial, no-words-to-describe-it piece of equipment. Cable management is great. Everything fits nicely in that case like it was build for your parts, and with room left over. Nothing looks cramped. Love your monitor. Well done. Enjoy!!! +1 for sure.

Scarlet000 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Damn, that´s a tight fit! But awesome build! +1

Max35 1 point 4 months ago

This is an amazing build, but why do you #REGERT getting that monitor?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I got it right before the Acer Predator came out so I've been locked in at a lowly 60 fps with no gsync for a few years now.

Other than that, it has been a fantastic monitor.

Max35 1 point 4 months ago

OH, that makes sense now.

Astrixian 1 point 4 months ago

Truly a fantastic setup design wise and aesthetically it's beautiful. I like the parts and their pairings together it really has to be a monster of a system. The Noctua fan is a real beast especially in that case and it fits the build well. Overall I love the system and it will last you a good while with all of the available power you have at your disposal.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks. I spent a long time trying to find all the parts to match exactly how I wanted them. Only thing I need to do is paint my wall white.

neural_physics 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Not sure why you felt the need to upgrade a perfectly capable 4790K system... The 7700K is faster sure but not fast enough to warrant a whole new system... It is basically a higher clocked 4790K

Vairfoley 11 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

moremoneythanproblems

brycejonathan 1 point 4 months ago

This build is so awesome and makes me want to make my next build a compact build. Nice taste in headphones I would love to get any of the 600 series through sennheiser I currently use hd 598's. Just a great build I love it.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Go to massdrop. They have the HD6XX's on sale for 199 and they are the same as the HD650's.

7ouie 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Fantastic build!

SwiftSeb 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

This, right here, is my dream... EVERYTHING

OnedayUJ 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Love it. Very neat...personally I would have bought An Asus 1080 just to align with the mb. For that rig you need a decent mouse though...Logitech With Rgb would do nicely.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Asus 1080 ti is a 2.5 slot card. It would have prevented me from putting intake fans at the bottom, but I did consider it since I would have liked the MB and graphics card to match like you said.

MannyPCs 1 point 4 months ago

This looks awesome, great build. +1

Dell U3415W - #REGERT. Will be upgrading when a new Asus ultrawide gets introduced.

Is that monitor terrible?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

The Dell monitor is fantastic. It's just missing gsync and a high refresh rate.

MannyPCs 1 point 4 months ago

Oh, ok, well it isn't a gaming oriented monitor so it is how it is, but yeah those new ultrawide gaming screens coming out look sick.

Upgrade 8 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Awesome build

Hu5ky 1 point 4 months ago

Really clean and really mean, I like it!

VikBox123 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Quick question: you said the 7700k is noticeably faster than the 4790k, could you put that in perspective by a percentage value (like 15/20%)? I want to know how much of an upgrade it would be from my 4770k.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't be able to assign a percentage to it. I play wow, lol, wildlands and gta 5. I was able to increase the settings in all of my games and still maintain 60 fps minimum at 3440x1440 where the 4790k was on lower settings and would have fps dips into the 40's.

Benjtheman 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Have been researching desk lighting options and I like the look of yours. What lights do you use?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I used a kit like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KNSO0M8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_Jr4BzbAFW0TWM

The adhesive sucks so I had to hot glue the strip down to the back of the desk. That worked fine.

Benjtheman 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks! Did you opt for the 5050 or the 3528 LED strip? Which would you recommend?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I went with the 5050's mainly because I didn't even know there was a 3528 until just now and upon further research the 5050 LED's are brighter and bigger, so I'd go that route lol.

dylanxharrison 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

where are the cables for the monitor? did you route them through the wall or something? lol

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Yes I did. I hate cables showing!

dylanxharrison 1 Build 2 points 4 months ago

jesus christ that's some dedication lol

Weeaboo_Slayer 1 point 4 months ago

900$ for 60hz feelsbadman.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I bought this pretty much a day before the predator got announced so that price was a while ago. It does feel bad though. Can't wait for the new Asus monitor.

ped90 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

"Schiit Stack - This works fine."

How fine? Would you recommend anything else instead?

+1 for being so damn tidy

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

If I could do it again, I'd likely pick up a Jotunheim with the balanced dac. But for $200 it's hard to beat the magni and modi 2 combo. I'd recommend it.

SakruhBuilds 1 point 4 months ago

WhErE's ThE StRuGgLe??

+1, sweet build

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I'm never finished or completely happy with it. That's the struggle!

Sam_Flynn 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Welcome to the PCMR my friend...

SakruhBuilds 1 point 4 months ago

If you aren't happy I'll take it off your hands. I'll even do it for free.

nostrocrompt 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Oh, it's just lovely. Was this your first delidding? How much alcohol is required - accounting both for cleaning off the original compound and for courage? Great build, great write-up. +1

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

It was my first time delidding and I was nervous af! Thankfully the rockit cool delid kit makes it very easy. And fun too. Kinda like riding a ridiculously tall roller coaster. I was terrified at first, but now I want to delid every proc I get my hands on while riding a giant coaster.

I would recommend using two ounces of vodka. Take the shot yourself and let the leftover liquid in the glass drip down onto the cpu. Repeat. Should be enough to soften the concrete that intel put on there.

nostrocrompt 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

applause

PAPA_KIWI 1 point 4 months ago

I think you should of went for a reference card since it'll get cool air from the fans underneath and you probably get temps a little lower

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

I originally had a reference 1080 ti in there. It would hit 85-89C and dial the clock back like crazy. I'm talking below 1800mhz. Ever since I changed to this open air card, GPU temps do not ever go above 72C and I can maintain 1950mhz. I saw about a 5C increase in temps for the motherboard and SSD and processor, but they are all well below their thermal threshold, whereas my reference GPU was pegged at its max temperature all the time. And holy crap it was so loud.

PAPA_KIWI 2 points 4 months ago

oh..

MaximilianZ 1 point 4 months ago

First you seem like your fkn rich, which is nice.

Only thing i would change is that i would do a little custom GPU riser to prevent sagging. just a little peace of wood or anything glued to the end of the gpu to hold it up.

andlaw 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

from the looks of it,, there are fans below the GPU so prying a stick or something under is out of the question, but if you look at picture #4 you can see he is using a Noctua chromax anti-vibration pad to prop it up.. ... could be wrong tho*

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Good eye. Picture 4 - right below the "ti" on the graphics card, shows where I wiggled in a piece of rubber that I cut. Specifically, the rubber that protects the PCIE fingers on the graphics card. I cut it on the corner for extra rigidity. Picture 7 also shows where I tried to use a tall brown noctua anti vibration dampener, but I'm not sure of its effectiveness.

Nater650 1 point 4 months ago

Why two tubes of different types of thermal paste?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

The liquid metal conductonaut was used after the CPU delid between the die and ihs. After that, I used the kryonaut between the ihs and the CPU cooler.

Yahtadi 1 point 4 months ago

I always wanted to know why every NCase M1's owner put 2 fans under GPU. Would that make turbulance between Fans of GPU and 2 external fans?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

No clue. I know that people have tested fans vs no fans on the bottom and the generally you can expect around a 5c drop in temps with fans.

kennyboy12 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

I only have one fan under my gpu, but I also slid in a small 92mm between the end of the gpu and front of the case (seen in photo 12), and this combo actually granted me a 10c. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do!

Yahtadi 0 points 4 months ago

You are using blower design card. I think thats different case and cant be compared

I mean OP using 1080Ti FTW3 from EVGA that well known of its cooler, why put 2 fans right in front of it? hell you migh as well clear a space for optimum cooling

Put fans right in front of or after a blower card, that might be right but this? i mean why? teorically it would make such a turbulance. Just saying

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

It's a SC Black edition, not FTW3. I put two fans under it because this kind of setup has been tested and retested for years by M1 owners and the result is the GPU will run cooler. I think making the argument for increased turbulence, especially on such a small scale, is a little over exaggerated. You'd think after all these years you would have heard someone mention something about it, but nothing. I can never hear the GPU or the fans below it, and it runs at max 72C no matter what I do.

The blower card I had, even with fans underneath, ran at like 90. So that sucked.

Yahtadi 0 points 3 months ago

I dont think you didnt get what i mean.

What i meant: if you are using blower card, add extra 2 external fans would help to cool thing off

but

if you use non blower card, dont add external fans, you might as well clear some space for air to get sucked. At least, theory say that

I mean, logically.. Non blower card already has fans attached to heatsink, what on earth people adds external fans for? Thats what bugging me for years, Especially on Sff, like M1 case. Thats all, but if the result across the theory, good for you. I mean, good M1's owners.

kennyboy12 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

This is simply gorgeous! I love the Ncase so much. What were the lengths you chose on the cables?

Also, where is your second m.2 drive? lol. You're under-utilizing that beautiful board!

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

24 Pin Power - 30CM 8 Pin CPU/EPS - 40CM 8 pin PCIE - 20CM 6 pin PCIE - 20CM 4 pin SATA - 20CM

I'll probably pick up another m.2 later. I currently don't utilize the space I have so it'll be a while.

kennyboy12 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks!

Ibuyara 1 point 4 months ago

I have a pok3r for sale on craigslist with MX Browns! Also from Massdrop :).

Price is flexible for a fellow massdropper.

jaka2015 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Dude your build is, like, everything I want from my (planned) one in the Ncase except 10000x better. How on earth did you make this build this amazing? One thing I would like to ask though. How did you get ahold of the C12? I need one and the fact that they don't make 'em anymore is driving me crazy.

Also how are temps in there with a blower-style cooler? I'm about to ice out my GPU with an NZXT G10 + Corsair H55 (just bought the parts today) so that might work but I'm also considering putting the AIB cooler back on. Curious how you ended up evacuating all the heat from these bonkers components?

Thanks!

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

It took me a long time to get everything like this. Literally years. I had an idea of how I wanted it to be and didn't settle on parts until it matched my vision. If I saw a cable out of place I would spend as long as I needed in order to hide it. Cables running down the wall? Drill a hole in the wall and route them behind it. Microphone has a blue led? Take it apart and cut the wire. Blue led on the case power switch? Order parts from china and wait 2 months for them to arrive. Buy a soldering iron. Learn how to solder. Even the cable for my headphones took five months to get since it was hand made. I even went through four desk mats until I found one that covered the holes just right. The only thing that I can't really decide on is the wall and what color it should be. I might cave and do the sound deadening panels but I'm not sure yet.

I found a user on hardforum that literally had a c14 brand new in box and he sold it to me. I got super lucky with that find. If you look over there you can sometimes find a person trying to sell a used one. They're absolutely worth it because it is the best possible heat sink you can buy for this case.

Temps suck with blower style cards. 85-90C and throttled down like crazy. I would not recommend at all. Definitely use your aio kit. And the heat isn't an issue in my particular case. I have two NF-F12's blowing air up from the bottom and two more blowing air directly over the CPU cooler. The air seems to shoot straight out of the top of the case without issue. Although the back of the motherboard seems to get overly toasty at times.

jaka2015 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Wow, that is some dedication. Is it completely perfect now or do you still have things you want to do to the build?

Also, I hear Noctua makes a newer version of the C12 or something like it, is that still a good cooler?

And thank you, I'm definitely gonna put in the G12 then. Hopefully I can fit it though.

I don't think I said this, but your build is awesome, I upvoted (obviously) and congratulations!

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I want to to replace my keyboard with the same one, but with mx browns. Or a LZ keyboard. I want to do something with my wall because I don't like the tan color, and I want to find a different mouse but I'm not sure which kind yet. Something wireless but not gamery. I also want to upgrade the schiit stack to a Jotunheim and then get a pair of HD700's because they match the silver and black theme better. Oh, and grab a PG35VQ Asus monitor when it comes out later this year. And put another M.2 in my build. There will definitely be a Struggle part 3. This is part 2.

C14 vs C12 I would wait until you find a C14. Even if it's used, it's the best air cooler you can get for the case. Searchcraigslist.org is your friend here. If you find one, message and see if they will put it on ebay for you. Check ebay daily. The NH-C14s WILL NOT FIT. Make sure it's the C14 original.

jaka2015 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Jesus man! You definitely are not messing around here! But how come you want another M.2? I thought you said that you didn't really need it in the above section...

Alright thanks. I will definitely look around. Will the L12 work though? It looks quite similar to the C14.

That theme is just amazing. And thank you for responding to all my questions! It's really making planning my new build a lot easier.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

I don't need another one, but someone mentioned it before and now I'm stirring thinking my computer is now lacking without one.

It will work just fine. Just not quite as well as the c14. There will be more space between the front of the heat sink and the fans but that should be okay.

Thanks, and you're welcome!

EnergeticTk 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

"GTX 1080 Ti - The first one I owned was a reference model but it made too much noise so I bought another one." Lol, I'm done xD

What did you do with the other one?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Sold it using Craigslist. Got 600 for it.

Essex23 1 point 4 months ago

two words that scare the crap out of me every time.....delided cpu.

Ok, I know cpu isn't a word, but you get the idea. lol

Morty-Smith 1 point 4 months ago

When I realize you spent $45 dollars on thermal paste

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

That's nothing. I probably spent another 2k on parts that didn't meet my standards for aesthetics and sold them for a loss because I'm too lazy to ship them back.

eriksyl 1 point 4 months ago

Should have gone with a 4k monitor, 1080 ti is capable of 4k 60 fps.

Sprenzy 1 point 4 months ago

Dude, I love your desk! where can I get one?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Home Depot, Lowe's, any place that sells paint, sandpaper, and 8x2 foot 5/8 plywood and reinforced L brackets.

Sprenzy 1 point 4 months ago

Do you happen to have a blueprint or something?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

No. I just winged it. But here are all the parts you would need (that I can think of) assuming you have at least a 12v drill.

Nut driver for screws

Screws for bracket up into the bottom of the desk

Screws for bracket into the studs in the wall

Brackets

Plywood

Hole Cutter

Rough sanding brick

Finish sanding brick

Cable clamps

Screws for clamps

Tack cloth

You obviously want to measure everything before you have home depot cut the piece of plywood. Mine is 8 feet by 2 feet. Figure out where you want to sit relative to where the brackets will be. Generally you want to be between two brackets.

Take the plywood home. Paint it with your choice of color. Satin finish is popular among desks but you can't go wrong with anything you choose. Let it dry overnight. Sand it the next day with 80 grit. Figure out which side is going to face you and start sanding the edges to make them smooth and rounded. Use your tack cloth to make sure the surface is clean of sanding debris then put another coat of paint on. You can use a brush or a roller, doesn't matter. Let that dry overnight. Sand it with 220. Use the tack cloth, make sure it's clean of debris, paint again. Repeat this process until it meets your standards.

Find your studs in the wall, measure and level off at around 27.5 inches from the top of the bracket. Taking into account the thickness of the desk ,you want your desk to be between 28-29 inches high at the very top. It will seem very low when you look at it, just go with it. Alternatively if you're a very tall person and your chair high, you can measure where your arm wrests are at the very top while you are sitting in the chair. Then make the bottom of the desk one inch higher than that.

Drill the hex screws into the brackets into the wall, all level, then put the desk on top. Lay underneath and have a person spotting for you on top to make sure the desk is straight (leave a gap at the back if you want to glue some LED's on like I did) or mount it flush against the wall. You can even caulk that to make it look more professional if you go with it against the wall. Use your 1/2 inch screws and bolt the bracket into the bottom of the desk.

Put all of your components on the desk, figure out where you need cable holes drilled. Be sure about this. Try to consolidate as many cables through one hole as you can. Drill the holes. Start at the top and go slowly. If you drill too fast you will tear off wood at the bottom. It's always a good idea to go about 80% through the top and then finish the other 20% going from bottom to top with the hole cutter.

You will need to sand and paint the interior of the holes you just cut. You want it reasonably smooth so the wires don't get hung up in there. Some wires are braided and if it's not sanded it will start shredding them.

After that is painted sanded and dry put everything on your desk and plug it in. Underneath you will use your cable clamps to mount all of them under the desk. You can get different sizes here. There's no right or wrong way to go. Just make sure they're reasonably snug.

People just see a desk in pictures, but it's actually several days worth of work and several hundred dollars. Lots of parts and lots of steps.

xeyreon 1 point 4 months ago

Do you have all the fans set to intake?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Yep. All intake.

xeyreon 1 point 4 months ago

That doesn't cause any issues? Would an exhaust help at all? I'm planning on doing a similar build in the In-Win A1 whenever it finally comes out and I've been trying to plan out cooling in advanced and the M1 seems like the closest thing to use as a basis right now lol.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

No issues. I have great temps across the board. The air flow of the case goes bottom to top and the hot air is exhausted through the top panel.

IllOO 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Interesting, I have the exact opposite setup, all exhaust. (primarily because I hate dust) I guess unless you do a mix-up, both setups work out fine.

essa.ea 1 point 4 months ago

neat.

jak-jak 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Nice Job. That NCase Looks clean with the brushed aluminum.

KingKiller1759 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

If you're looking for a mouse I recommend the Logitech G502 Proteus Specturm. Such a nice mouse. My daily driver for almost a year

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks for the suggestion. That mouse isn't really my style but I am thinking of trying the G703.

KingKiller1759 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

That new powerplay charging is really cool.

MalteseEwok 1 point 4 months ago

That is just beautiful - I have a couple of questions over the GPU choice. My M1 arrives Tuesday and after two months of hunting a brand new C14 was ordered today.
1. With the C14 on the CPU, did you bother looking into aftermarket coolers for your FE before switching to the SC Black? 2. how quiet / stable is the sc against the FE?

Thanks and seriously nice build. Im dropping the m2 from the build after your comments below too.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Where did you find a brand new C14? I would like to pick up another one.

The aesthetics of aftermarket GPU coolers to me are terrible unless it's a legit GPU block. Didn't bother looking into it because of that.

The black edition doesn't boost very well. I try to hit 2ghz and it crashes outright. Most I can muster is 1976 or something to that effect. 72C max under synthetic load so it's good.

MalteseEwok 1 point 3 months ago

Ebay. The seller listed it 4 minutes prior with a buy it now. It does have Box damage but all accessories including TP are still sealed!

MalteseEwok 1 point 3 months ago

Actually 1 more Q. Why did you choose the black edition over SC2?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Black edition is black. SC2 elite gaming black option was sold out and the 9 sensors are just a gimmick anyway. I also didn't need RGB.

jaypoge 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

+1 man! Great job! I have the same case. Did you mod the power button?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks!

Yes, I added a 12mm anti vandal switch.

jaypoge 1 Build 2 points 3 months ago

Perfect! I will change mine to red hehe. Thanks!

Anyansayo 1 point 3 months ago

Great, finally someone that can take a bit of critique. The build is great by the way, but why didn't you get a liquid cooler? I bet that if you did you could have reached an even higher stable overclock. Also, why didn't you get a gaming mouse like a Logitech G900 or Razer Lancehead. Other than that, I'd say that your machine is perfect. No one can say anything bad about the 1080 ti.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I had a Kraken x52 in there. The tubes and wires did not meet my standard for aesthetics so out it went. This particular chip OC's great at 5.1 but I need to go to around 1.45v in order to do 5.2 and .105v isn't worth the 100mhz imo.

I didn't like the look of the G900 - and I didn't know the lancehead was a thing. I'll probably order the Razer and give it a shot because I really like the way that looks. Thanks for the suggestion there!

Thank you!

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Damn, the razer mouse has buttons on the right side. Can't get down with that. I'd constantly fat finger them and even if I disabled the buttons it would still throw me off. So close to being perfect.

Anyansayo 1 point 3 months ago

I have a G900 and Razer Ouroboros. They are both fantastic, but the battery life of the Ouroboros is the worst that I have ever seen. I got it just before the Lancehead came out and kind of wish that I got that instead. The battery life of the G900 is amazing. I am confident that if I went on a one week trip and brought my G900 with me without a charger, that I could use it every day without it running out of battery. It's build quality is great and the Spectrum cycling RGB looks great. If I were to buy another mouse, it would be a Logitech G900, but if I were to get something else, it would probably be the lancehead. Make sure to really read up on battery life and the software. Logitech has very good software and onboard memory. The software included with the Razer Ouroboros honestly is pretty bad. On Razerzone.com, They say that they have developed design with a description very similar to Logitech's system (Onboard memory, Precise sensors, Easy to navigate software, Etc.). Hope you make the right choice. Do the research.

FishingLegend 1 point 3 months ago

Awesome build. Did you experience any degradation of your 4790K at 1.365 V 24/7? I can hit 4.7 Ghz at 1.264 V VCore stable, but I daily 4.5 Ghz at 1.230 V VCore.

IllOO 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

You clearly have a fine taste in audio. How does the Shiit Dac/Amp combo compliment the 650s?

I realy love the astheticaly perfect combination of the cpu + gpu heat-sinks, looks realy good. Just the cable routing to the CPU could be done better imo, also you hid the power cable very well! Wish I'd done it the same way in my M1, but the bent at the beginning... and where did you get this awesome On/Off switch?!

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

The audio sounds great. I enjoy the combo very much. I am eventually looking to retire the stack and get a Jotunheim.

I don't know how all the other M1 owners managed to get a decent looking power cable but mine is legit zip tied on for some reason. It came like that too. No idea why. The bend looks really extreme but if I had a cable like yours it would be much smoother and look a lot better. I'll have to order one and replace it.

Power switch mod was done using parts off of ebay and frozencpu.

Switch

Harness

I linked you a red switch because that would look bangin with your build but if you wanted another color you could find it on ebay. I soldered mine on since the pins it comes with aren't the greatest and came loose every time I tried installing the GPU.

IllOO 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Thanks for the links. I will definetly look into it. Currently I connected only the HDD-led cable, so the power button is blinking red, but it can get annoying.

dylzilla777 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

What power cable do you have coming out of the psu? I've been looking for something that low profile for a while...

Astia 1 point 3 months ago

I Can take care of you're other 1080 ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

NovaTastical 1 point 2 months ago

Incredible build this is amazing! If you want a mouse try the G502 spectrum! Its a top tier mouse and it looks incredible as well.

angeloabary 1 point 1 month ago

okay wait...ive read in the comments below the FTW3 1080ti will not fit? because im thinking of getting one for my Ncase M1 v5...i think i may need to rethink if thats the case(no pun intended) which part of the FTW3 you think will not fit? im interested to know.

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

The length is fine at 299.72mm. The "height" however is 142.69 mm. When you combine that even with right-angle pcie connectors, it will not allow the case side panel to close.

angeloabary 1 point 1 month ago

oh crap.....so the best choice i have is the SC2?(https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-6593-KR) anyways according to gamersnexus its performance is almost the same even on the thermals slight fps difference and the FTW3 is louder due to higher fan speeds and its 30$ cheaper..

so my question now is will it fit? haha im assuming its the same size as your SC version?

Shotties submitter 4 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Yes. SC2 will fit and will perform great as long as you have two intake fans at the bottom. Doesn't matter what I do or what game I play, my GPU will not go above 72C ever.

angeloabary 1 point 1 month ago

AWESOME!!! alright! its a done deal SC2 it is! thanks a bunch!

NathanielAugustine 1 point 28 days ago

What deliding tool is that?

SWizH 0 points 4 months ago

Why did you not get generic 3000mhz RAM especially because you can not see the sticks them selves?

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