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First windows pc

by aventador18

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Date Published

Oct. 9, 2016

Date Built

Sept. 24, 2016

CPU Clock Rate

2.7 GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

26.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

37.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.09 GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

7 GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

21.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

36.0° C

Description

my whole life I have been a die hard apple fanboy and I only ever used apple products, but I kinda wanted to try what windows is like. so for my 13th build I wanted to build my very own windows pc (I didn't even know you could build your own pc until like 5-6 months ago when austin Evans uploaded his video showing how to build a gaming pc), and around a month or two later I found pcpartpicker and I quickly came up with some part lists. I was also amazed by this site because how you could put all the parts together and it would tell you if something worked together or not and I have been addicted to this site ever since. my original plan was to go with an Athlon x4 860k and gt 710, but turns out that wasn't a very powerful gpu at all and the Athlon didn't exactly have a really big upgrade path anyways. a while later I was going to go with the pentium g4400 and 750 ti, but shortly later the new amd cards were released and I decided I would go with that. my birthday was in a couple days and I already had a final parts list that I was going to go with, and I had also decided I was already ordering all the parts from amazon.

GETTING THE PARTS

so, when my birthday came my dad insisted we buy the parts through memory express rather than amazon. ME didn't have the exact case I wanted, so I had to spring for the cheapest case there which was over twice the price of the one at amazon. they also didn't have the motherboard I wanted, so I went for the closest thing in stock which was also more expensive than the motherboard I was originally going for. they didn't have the exact rx 460 I wanted, so I also went for the cheapest rx 460 I could find. so when we were buying the parts my dad thought the g4400 was woefully under powered and would not be able to do literally anything other than web browsing, so he upgraded it to the cheapest i5. he also thought 120gb is not enough space for anything, so he also upgraded that to a 240gb, and in the end, it was far more expensive than I thought it would be.

THE BUILD

so, when we eventually brought the parts home, me and my best friend started building the PC. he kinda ditched me and started watching a horror movie (I think it was called "the doll" or something) after a while and I was in my kitchen till 3am building the PC. It was very intense and I was pretty nervous too, and the hardest part for me was either the front panel connectors because it didn't label in the motherboard manual where to put the connectors, or the cable management which was particularly hard and time intensive because when I was finally done with cable management turns out the case didn't have enough clearance for the cables so I had to redo the cable management , but this case isn't exactly very spacious so it was very hard to do cable management and so I decided I would do it the next morning. after going to sleep at like 4 am (or was it 5?) after building a pc and watching a movie or two, I was very tired and only got a bit of sleep. the next morning I woke up and did the cable management and tried to see if it worked. after 2 weeks of waiting, my dad finally got me a mouse (some black web mouse that looks and feels almost exactly like an mx master), monitor (acer k222hql), and windows 10. I installed windows and stuff yesterday.

PROBLEMS/ERRORS/SCREW UPS

  1. I didn't put the sata cable in the ssd right that night, and I snapped the sata port and we had to get a new ssd. I kinda blamed some of it on my friend even though he was watching a movie :)
  2. in the morning, I didn't tell you that it would not turn on and it would show nothing. turns out ram was not in properly and I could've shorted the ram out. we went to ME almost a week after originally building the PC to diagnose the reason why it wouldn't turn on
  3. I took the warranty sticker off the ram

CONCLUSION

it was actually very fun and very rewarding in the end building a pc, and I hope to do it again sometime in the future. my thoughts on windows 10 are meh. it lags on me much more than my MacBook Air and iMac, it randomly restarts whenever it needs to install an update, and it seems a bit overwhelming and complicated and not as simplistic as macOS, and it doesn't seem as stable or consistent as macOS either. also, there are some features i really really miss coming from mac such as: reminders, icloud notes, picture in picture, iMovie, airdrop, airplay, being able to see what tabs are open on your devices, quicktime, link previews, imessage, facetime, icloud photos, iBooks, keynote, icloud contacts, and flux.

PERFORMANCE

this build is actually way more powerful than i ever expected it to be. the UI runs at 60fps the whole time with no slowdowns or studders ever and most applications launch near instant, and in games i can handle every single game i have ever thrown at it with flying colours. on planetside 2 for example, i can bump it up to 1440p on ultra and still get around 60fps, and 4k on medium i get around 45-55fps. on minecraft with the highest settings, no mods, i get around 300-350fps. on cinebench r15, my i5 6400 scored 510, just above the i7 3840qm which is quiet impressive for me.

OTHER

  1. I forgot the wifi card, now can't watch any tv
  2. didn't know monitor didn't have hdmi or dvi cable to attach to gpu, so im stuck with kind of impressive igpu for a while

Part Reviews

CPU

very good bang for your buck. cpu itself is very powerful compared to anything I had before and has similar performance toa an i7 3840qm. also, the igpu is surprisingly capable and can handle some light games at 1080p

Motherboard

BIOS is very good, but only has 2 fan slots (1 for cpu fan, other for case fan)

Storage

very good bang for buck. very cheap, decently fast, and decent amount of space. i got 508.9 read, and 446.5 write speeds

Video Card

very very impressed with this card. this will play ps2 at 4k on ultra no msaa with 50 fps, toxikk on 1080p full msaa on ultra with well over 60 fps even in big battle areas. also, card is pretty tiny so it will fit in very small mini itx cases nicely. good price as well

Case

case itself isn't very roomy and has barely any cable management. keep in mind there is only like 1cm of cable clearance on the back panel for cable management. included fan is decent, pretty quiet. case itself is pretty solid, though side panel is kinda flimsy

Operating System

meh. installation process was pretty easy, but OS itself was ok I guess. it lags on me a decent amount when compared to any of my Macs and it randomly restarts whenever you need to update. at least the UI looks pretty good

Wireless Network Adapter

was good for the first day, but after that i started losing connection every 5 or so seconds, and id be lucky if i ever got over 30 seconds without the connection dropping. when i switched the connection to my 5g connection, it stopped dropping. also, very expensive for what it does.

Monitor

perfect size imo, will fit on any desk. colours are very vibrant and has very deep blacks. also, viewing angles are amazing. i took a star off because stand is very wobbly

Comments Sorted by:

diesel98a 2 Builds 3 points 29 months ago

+1, just for having the Compaq keyboard as part of the build. I have seen plenty of those in my time.

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

thanks! this keyboard came with my dads windows 95 machine, still surprised it works. also, what ever happened to compaq?

diesel98a 2 Builds 1 point 29 months ago

They were bought out by HP a long time ago, HP has never been the same since.

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

oh, I see

LastRaven17 1 point 29 months ago

"it randomly restarts whenever it needs to install an update"

That is a little dirty feature of the Home Edition; upgrade to Pro if you are able to do so.

Windows does take some acclimation but I could say the same about MacOS, which I have worked on several machines, even helped configure someone's laptop to tri boot Windows, Mac and Linux.

Just look up anything that confuses you, if you ever have used something like Windows before 8, download the free program Classic Shell, it allows you to have the old start menu and it is easier to work with.

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

really? thanks

AW1018 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

i smell a future hackintosh

viet456 1 point 29 months ago

You couldve gotten an rx 480 with that budget

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

my plan was to return the i5 6400 for an i3 6100 and the rx 460 for a 470, but my dad insisted i dont

KBurgess 1 point 29 months ago

If the 460 gets you by for a few years, great! You would have a lot more GPU options at that point and a powerful enough CPU to handle a large upgrade.

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

oh, really? thanks! i am currently able to handle literally every single game at 1080p-1440p on ultra with way over 60fps, so i dont think i will have to upgrade for many years

KBurgess 1 point 29 months ago

Good PC to learn Windows with! Great upgrade potential with just a GPU swap if desired. I like this build a lot.

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

thanks!

Boith 3 Builds 1 point 29 months ago

I'd upgrade to pro if possible. Not gonna say where, as one of the admins, understandably, will go after me, but the keys can be found for cheap. I'm using it with no issues. The build itself is pretty good actually, I would've advised going for a higher end card and a cheaper processor, as the majority of games rely on the gpu more. Other that, solid build

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

yeah, i was gonna return the i5 and rx 460 for an i3 and rx 470 but my dad said i shouldnt

penguins0000 1 point 29 months ago

Thank you for telling the performance on planetside 2. That's pretty much my favorite game, but having hd 2500 integrated graphics does not let me run it at lowest settings

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 1 point 29 months ago

yeah, I also love ps2 as well. what is your build?

FlyinToasteronie 1 point 24 months ago

Flux exists on Windows and Linux

sushi-san 1 point 12 months ago

nice build dude and i just wana ask u how the gpu is performing and would u recommend it for a budget build?

daniel13306 -2 points 29 months ago

look at my build, 3 times as good, and its cheaper, do some research before you buy my friend

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 2 points 29 months ago

which build?

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 3 points 29 months ago

my build costs around $700 canadian without any peripherals or OS, which is $527 usd. your build costs $831 usd, over $300 more than my build. so your build is not actually any cheaper (at all), but it is obviously faster too. also, if your going to use a k cpu, I would go for a z170 motherboard to be able to overclock.

daniel13306 -2 points 29 months ago

lol this is ******* stupid, it said that your build was 820 cuz i had it in a wrong valuta -.- you could buy a cpu cooler, dont use the stock one

aventador18 submitter 1 Build 2 points 29 months ago

there is almost no reason for me to buy a 3rd party cpu cooler, other than the fact they give you better temps and they look really awesome. i am fine with the temps, looks, and noise from the stock cpu cooler so far. plus, im kinda broke right now too so i have to let my wallet recover before i can upgrade anything.

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