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EDIT 2 - see comments regarding the Gigabyte x570 Aorus Xtreme - great motherboard, but not without a CRUCIAL flaw

EDIT 1 - lots of you wanted to know about the thermals of the 3950X. I replaced the Thermal paste yesterday (thermal grizzly kryonaut) and am now able to sit comfortably at 65 degrees under Aida64 stress test for 15 minutes. This is with the fans at a static (and quiet) 60% fan speed. Comparing it to the 3700X placeholder I had in this socket before, I can confidently say (at least with PBO settings) that a 360 AIO cooler is more than enough to cool this comfortably. If you want to get those max clocks - by all means a custom loop is obviously the way to go, but this AIO will do just fine for now.

Vince, if you or Tin are reading this, I hope I didn’t let you down. This PC, while built as a tribute to my love of computers was also built to honor the mad science you have been creating for years. To you I say “hen hao” and “xie xie ni”.

I wanted to give a special thank you to Jinair on this site. He never directly helped me or anything, but his builds inspired me to make this, and I can't wait to finish this dual system craziness:) Thanks Jinair!

F – Fractal Design

E – EVGA

N – Noctua

G – Gigabyte

G – G-Skill

P – Phanteks

C – Corsair

This PC is still not fully finished. There will be a second system going in this chassis powered by a HDPlex 400 once it gets back in stock. I’m super excited for that and will update the build once that happens!

UPCOMING UPGRADES - Mini ITX system running a 3700X and (maybe a 2060 super), Synology NAS, Monitor upgrades

If you folks have any questions feel free to ask. I'm always willing to help the PC Master Race!!!

I already know there will be questions regarding this so I’m going to answer some of these ahead of time:

“Why did you buy dual K|NGP|NS?” When I was younger, I remember looking through a PC magazine and seeing the 780 K|NGP|N in an ad. I thought it was so cool and I told myself that when I had completed some milestones in my job that I would buy one as a symbol that I had made it. Well I made those milestones, and I bought two because I’m very lucky to have a wife that read my mind😊

“Are you crazy?” Of course I’m crazy. But hey, I’m also happy. Crazy and happy – I’m crappy.

“Why didn’t you just build a custom loop for all of this?” I will be undergoing a very large transition (cross continental move) in under a year and I was very apprehensive about building something like that and having it moved by someone who potentially doesn’t care about PCs. I did challenge myself to make this AIO setup somewhat visually appealing. It’s no Rembrandt, but I think it looks pretty nice given the circumstances.

"Why so many fans?" - This was more of a challenge to see the capabilities of the chassis. I'm happy to say that the system is pretty quiet (apart from benchmarking, then it sounds like a F-22 taking off). The fans were purchased more for their longevity (and they were the only black noctuas I could find at the time).

I’ve been interested in computers for so long. I used to watch my brother play Flight Commander and Doom. My mother was a big Wallpipe fan (shout out to those that remember Wallpipe lol). I wasn’t allowed to play as much, but when I did, it was strategy games and Pitfall. When I was 11, I wanted to play this game called “Total Annihilation”. I didn’t have enough space on my mom’s computer, but I found this really large file that I deleted to make room for my game. That “really large file” turned out to be a critical Windows boot file that bricked the computer. I’ve been working on computers ever since. My very first PC that I built had a FX 8350 at its core. It was a hilarious endeavor (if I have a picture I’ll post it) – I had no knowledge other than what I saw on some old Linus tech tips videos but I managed to build it and I was so happy.

Fast forward to today, and I’m using computers all the time. I work on computers as a network administrator. I go to school on my computer. Some of my favorite hobbies (AutoCAD, Music Creation, Gaming) are all on the computer. After reaching some milestones, I decided to build this computer. This was built to be a tribute to my love of PCs. It is my passion and one of my top loves next to my wife and child and I can’t wait to have fun with it!

I had two primary goals with building this: 1. Make the AIO setup somewhat visually appealing 2. Make something that on paper can’t be done

I went through three different PC cases before I picked the Luxe 2 (or 719 or whatever it’s called now). The O11 XL is a beautiful case, but it couldn’t fit the dual 240s needed for the KP cards (at least, not in a visually appealing way). I then took a look at some of the Thermaltake cases like the Level 20 VT and XT but the VT was too small for my motherboard and the XT was WAYYY too big. I stumbled upon the Luxe 2 and decided to go with that one.

I ran into a big problem though – the Luxe 2 will not fit dual 240s on the side area. Phanteks told me it wouldn’t fit. Reddit told me it wouldn’t fit. My measurements told me it wouldn’t fit. After a lot of thought I bought a Dremel and made it fit. I cut out some areas for the radiators to fit in a symmetric way and I think it turned out nice.

The rest of the build represents a lot of building then tearing down. It took me about three months from planning to finishing (and it’s still not finished yet). Cable management in this was not friendly at all. But I’m satisfied with the (somewhat) end product, and I hope you guys like it! (Last picture is my first build lol - I laugh every time I see it now lol).

Part Reviews

Motherboard

Pros + Completely passive (no fans on the motherboard) + Gorgeous looks + Right angle connectors + 10GB Ethernet + Comes with a plethora of extras (RGB Fan commander etc.)

Cons - The LEDs on the motherboard are rather dull; at full brightness, they are visible, but barely - Half of the heatsink has to be removed if you want to install more than one M.2 SSD - The six pin accessory power on the bottom of the motherboard is not right angle. This means that you cannot install practically any card in the bottom slot without modding the card or without a special right angle adapter (which is not included).

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Comments

  • 2 months ago
  • 7 points

nice, I'm super critical on others builds, but here you just nailed it, nothing I would change, congrats on this beauty!

  • 2 months ago
  • 5 points

Thank you so much! It means a lot. I was actually nervous about posting this build but I'm glad I did.

  • 2 months ago
  • 4 points

love the implementation of those LED's

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

Thank you! I didn't know if I would be overdoing it by putting the neons on the 240s, but I think it turned out okay! I ran out of right angle pieces so it doesn't look EXACTLY right (to be honest it bugs the heck out of me lol)

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

looks fine! it looks so unique and stunning!

  • 2 months ago
  • 4 points

A tribute to this brave soul for using a 3950x and TWO RTX 2080 Ti's. Must be hard paying bills now. Still a wonderful build and good job choosing AMD!

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

I had to go with AMD:) Red is my favorite color and I own a lot more AMD stock than I do Intel lol. Jokes aside, I almost went with Intel until I had a little bird in my ear tell me it would be worth the wait. I'm glad I trusted AMD's PR team and Lisa Su.

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

Very nice tower OP!

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

Thank you very much!

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

Nice build! Question, what did you use for those LEDs its pretty unique.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

The LEDs are Phantek’s new neon kits. They run about 20 bucks. I bought them directly from the Phanteks store. Let me know if you need help with them I actually modded some of the fittings to fit correctly. I actually ran out of right angle fittings so some of the angles aren’t to my liking but I’ll fix it soon.

  • 2 months ago
  • 3 points

Awesome I found them thanks. I'm not a fan of RGB but I like to have good case lighting. I used to love the old CCFL cathode lights but they're hard to find now and they do burn out over time.

I think I'll add some of these to my build. I have a lot of the same parts as you. Aorus x570 Xtreme, 3950x etc.

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Did you overclock the RAM and the CPU yet? I would love to know how far you were able to push those two.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

RAM is running at its rated speed of 3600 with timings of 16-16-16-16-36. I did buy a second kit specifically for benchmarking that runs at 3600 but at 14 CAS. As far as the CPU, I’m currently waiting for some better thermal paste (I ran out of my Kryonaut the day I got my 3950X lol) so I won’t be doing anything til I get that. I typically just let PB do it’s thing - I had a 3700X in here temporarily while I was waiting for the 3950X, and Precision Boost didn’t do too shabby. You just need to keep your environment cool:)

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

jesus man dual kingpins, i salute you

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks!

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

What program are you using for fan control? Because I'm interested in using these fans, I don't know how to turn fan speed up and down

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm using a Corsair Commander and Corsair Link to control the speed of the case fans. I have two set profiles - a standard profile for everyday use, and a benchmark profile (that puts everything on a very aggressive fan curve that uses GPU 1 as a reference).

  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

This is fantastic. Very very close to the 3950X build I am currently planning, although I plan to use an air cooled Strix 2080TI (just one) and the ROG Formula board instead. I originally was going to use the Phanteks Eclipse P600S as my case but after seeing how your 719 build turned out I will probably go for the larger case. The 719 just has great options for setting up super good airflow. I plan to use the ROG Ryujin 360 for my AIO. Any advice to pass on for my build? Also how did you get that RAM kit. I have been trying to get my hands on the 64 GB Trident Z NEO 3600 16-16-16-36 kit forever and it's constantly unobtainable/out of stock.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

The Luxe 2 (719, whatever it's called now) is a good case. In my particular use case, I think I should have gone with a cube case like the thermaltake level 20XT (which I'm not a huge fan of due to the glass putting restrictions on airflow). But the case overall is great. Lots of extras (the box of screws, hard drive cages etc.) I'd recommend it to anyone trying to do an EATX build of any kind simply because of the capabilities of the chassis.

If you plan on using the Ryujin, I need to advise one thing - place the radiator on the side, not the top. The Luxe 2 has to major flaws in my opinion:

  1. The top of the case does indeed have room for 4 120mm fans and a radiator, however, there is no room above the bracket to place fans (only underneath). This means, that you will have to place your entire configuration (push, pull, or push/pull) underneath. This will definitely get in the way of your motherboard so just be aware.

  2. The cable management (again ,this is just for me) is not the greatest. I have a very unique use case so I'm probably not the norm here. There is plenty of space for cables and whatnot, but I'm not a fan of the curved bottom section for the PSU. It severely limits how the cables exit the PSU and where they are stored. I had to be very careful with my cables, and routing them (they're cablemod pro cables so they're rather "stiff") was difficult. Considering that each of the Kingpins takes 3 8 pin PCI-E cables, you can probably figure out why lol.

I got my memory kit(s) just by setting up an email alert in newegg. Once I got the email I placed the order. Setting it up was easy, I just used the calculator and set the values to the "fast" preset and now it's running at 3600. I haven't used the other kit yet, but that will happen soon.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Okay thanks for the info. Yes I had planned on mounting the Ryujin to the side vent. One thing I had not decided on was whether to run the Ryujin in exhaust (out the side vent) or intake (intake through the side vent). I am probably going to have 4 seagate ironwolf pros in this build so at least one of the bottom slots for an intake fan will be blocked by the drive caddies, meaning it might be best to have the Ryujin blowing into the case. Not too concerned about hot air from the rad bothering the GPUs since I will have top end Noctua 140's on the front of the case blowing in, and same thing on the top and rear of the case for exhaust. Main thing I am thinking about is whether running the Ryujin in Exhaust (out the side vent) would take too much airflow away from the GPU when the CPU is under load. What do you think? Also as far as push pull I did want to run the Ryujin in push pull regardless of where it was mounted but I doubt there will be enough room on the side vent for that. I (mostly) ruled out using the "cube" type cases because most of what is out there just doesn't quite offer what I'm looking for in terms of both airflow and room for drives, although I will be giving the Lian Li O11 XL another look over. Also very few cases offer side vents, which is a feature I think we need to see more of since CPU TDP's are getting uncontrollable with current cooling methods.

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

Magnificent, love the lighting. Just WoW.

I'm incredibly jelly oO.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Yeah I took quite a while figuring out the lighting. I redid it like 4 times lol.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thank you very much!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice build

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Hey, Love your build. I have a question I see you are using the Fractal Design S36 AIO. How is the AIO? Is it reliable and well build because I am looking to get that same cooler and wondering how quiet the pump block is and all? Would you recommend it?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! To be completely honest, I bought the S36 initially because it was the only all black AIO I could find. When I first started I knew I didn't want any rainbow stuff (hence why my neons are all white). The AIO is nice - I'm dialing in my CPU but on the 3700X it had before it was idling at around 40 with load temps of around 63 (4.3 on all cores).

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the reply how is the pump noise. I always worry about getting AIO I read online people have failing pumps and stuff so I worry

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I haven't had any issues with any noise from basically anything in the build. The only time I get a lot of noise is when I'm benchmarking - then I set all the fans to 100% and the thing sounds like a F1 car or jet engine.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks. Do you think im over reacting about getting a bad one or a broken one. Would you recommend it I am using it in the same case but with noctua fans

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

All of the fans in this entire build are Noctua fans:)

I think you should just stick with what you want. If you get a bad one, then return it and find another one. PC building is just like shopping for anything - sometimes you get something that doesn't work right or was faulty in the manufacturing process. It happens.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

... ._. There I was, casually browsing builds with the 3950x on this site, and the first thing I see is this behemoth. I saw the OLED displays on the GPUs and immediately thought, "dual Lightning Z's? Impossible." Then I noticed the tiny light on the PCB, and realized.. "DUAL KINGPINS?!" Now, all I have to say is.. you did it. You crazy son of a b*tch, you did it.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Dual Lightning Zs were considered, but they are triple slot and I needed dual slot cards. Matrix 2080 TI s were also considered but again, triple slot. I'm glad I went with the Kingpins.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

nice build, whats the boot time like from a cold start with those M.2 SSD?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Really nice machine. I’m currently building my son a high spec build once my 3950x arrives and will be swapping our RTX kingpin into it 😭 relegating me back to the old strix 1070ti.

Use of dual Kingpins gets a subtle Boba Fett nod of respect!

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Out of sheer curiosity does your son require a Kingpin? I mean, I love mine, but I bought them to have fun with the benchmarking and the data logging/mining and all that fun. Would your son be interested in that kind of thing?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

No that’s what I play with. But it makes sense to have it in the latest PC build which has the highest spec. (Mine is a delidded 8086k) Also, this build will be my first WC loop. The intention was to add the KP into it but the hydrocopper is no longer available. So long term will be me taking the KP and probably adding a 3xxx card to his next year at a more modest level.

Incidentally, it seems my KP has very little room to OC. I can’t get it stable at a “paltry” 2100 clock speed using precision.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Hmmmm I've gotten it up to 2190 on the stock cooler. What fans are you running?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

Only running the stock fans on it but temps are staying in the low 60’s. I’ve trying raising and lowering to 144% etc but no difference. Anything above an offset of 50mhz crashes whatever test or game is running. I’m going to contact EVGA for help when I have time. Trouble is, strictly speaking it’s working fine but I just lost the silicon lottery big time I guess.

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

I would highly suggest reading the Xdevs information that Tin published. A lot of the information isn't necessarily pertinent to the stock cooler, but it gives you great information about the capabilities of the PCB and the chip itself.

What is the ambient temperature of the card at idle?

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

So this is what it's like to have no budget.... =P

  • 2 months ago
  • 1 point

But I did have a budget lol - just a really high one_^

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Absolutely love it, inspired me to make this https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/HZFLyk

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

Thanks! Your build list looks good. I considered that Aorus AIO, but I actually decided to go with a custom loop on my CPU and I actually changed cases too.

  • 1 month ago
  • 1 point

I really like the case but the motherboard is really wide so it over hangs the cable holes towards the front of the case, you can see in this build https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/vtZRsY

  • 1 month ago
  • 2 points

I'll agree with you there. Right angle fittings are sexy but they have their own drawbacks.

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

Choosing between this motherboard and the Crosshair VIII Formula, is there anything in your opinion that could swing someone's choice to spending ~$300 more for the Gigabyte?

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  • 2 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks so much! I have so much planned for it I don't know where to begin lol!

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