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I've always been told AMD runs hotter, AMD sucks, whatever anyone that does this as a hobby has heard all of it from both sides, Intel and AMD..I honestly don't have tons of money to throw at a computer build so it took me 4 months to buy each part at a time to build this thing, and man let me tell you, it's the best machine I've ever owned by far!!!! One thing I've always wondered is people say AMD runs hot, well I see their Intel chips pushing 70-80c all the time and my chip has never seen 50, and trust me this is at all cores running 100%. I'm neither an AMD fanboy, or an Intel fanboy but I like my info to be accurate and for all of you out there that don't have 600 bucks to get a new x99 Intel cpu, these FX chips (Even tho outdated and old some would say, fair point) still do the job for me, and I haven't OC'd either, don't see the point.

Cpu- Bought this awhile back from newegg, but it came with bent pins, so after sending in pics of my unboxing they replaced it and gave me a $30 credit I used on the mobo.

Mobo- This was my hardest decision of this build, because everyone opts for the 990fx boards, but after doing some research I saw this MSI and bought it...It had been out 2 days, but I think for what it is I didn't feel it was that much of a risk.

GPU-Bought this awhile back had to replace a 7850 2GB that was starting to artifact..Been happy with this card, but I was going to sli 2 of these, but the new 970 is on my radar...

Case- Just like the gpu I bought this 2 days after it's release. Thank you Linus, it was your review that prompted me to get the case...Only complaint is that the rubber grommets aren't as great as one would think, but Linus has issue with the side panel, mine has been great.

PSU- Ok so this purchase took me forever to decide..I almost bought several other brands, but check this out..Corsair warranties these refurbs for 5 years...Yea, and the price was 89 bucks..You can't beat that..Also this Corsair is built by Seasonic, which for me was huge in what psu I bought...(Do not buy the Corsair cx750m..I bought mine, the coil whine was obsurd..I returned it the next day)

Thanks to everyone who comments..This is my first post on this site, so be gentle LOL P.S. I'm loving MSI's new direction with the gaming line, am I alone in this?

Comments

  • 62 months ago
  • 4 points

Why a green hdd? Isnt it too slow for a boot drive?

  • 62 months ago
  • 4 points

Well I had it left over from my wife's old comp and actually my boot times for an HDD are very nice...Like I said money for me has been tight so having the extra HDD was for me a no brainer to use. I would love a ssd, but I didn't have the money in the build for one..Thanks for your comment.

  • 62 months ago
  • 3 points

I know a lot of people don't mind boot times, so if that's you then fine stick with the Green. But, your HDD is meant to be a power saving, which should be a concern in gaming pc. I recommend saving up for a cheap SSD, it'll be a huge difference.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Do you have any recommendations? I'm pretty noob to what's a good deal on ssd's...Thanks in advance...

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Hyper 212 EVO or Pro. For the budget builders, anything from Kingston or Sandisk I have seen work well in the past.

  • 62 months ago
  • 5 points

Lol. The Hyper 212 EVO is a cooler. You probably mean the 840 EVO.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Also Corsair has an LS (or is it the LX?) SSD that is only $4 more than the budget kingston one with the MIR

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

The Samsung 212 evo is really fast. But if you want something under 80-100 bucks, I have had a good experience with the Kingston SSDNow V300. It's not as fast as the Samsung according to benchmarks, but it still boots my PC in under 10 seconds and loads apps like Chrome instantly. It was only $50ish for a 120gb.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks everyone looks like the 120gb for 50 ish is right up my alley!!!

  • 56 months ago
  • 1 point

The OCZ 120GB Vertex SSD is what I have been looking at. I don't have hands on experience, but it seems to do the trick.

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Phanteks XD, nice build, is that the led control switch in the lower pci back plate?

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

yes and thank you very much

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build. Just wondering as to why you went for 4x2GB ram sticks instead of 8gb of 2x4gb sticks instead, and the 660 is somewhat outdated but if you plan on upgrading later then no worries. +1

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the +1...ok so my reason for the weird ram setup is I was buying parts stacking them back to build this. I bought the PSU and the first 2 sticks of ram together, and when I had some extra money I bought another 2 sticks to give me 8gb's. The video card I bought awhile back, I bought the bigger PSU thinking I would sli these 2 together because the benchmarks on those 2 in sli were just amazing, but then maxwell now is out now and I'm drooling and saving for a msi GTX 970...Hope that makes sense lol

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

All good, enjoy the build.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks..

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

I was gonna ask about the RAM as well. Reasonable answer lol

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Man, that first picture is rough. But the rest of them definitely made up for it. This is a really good, cheap build. I wonder how that monitor compares to one of the new lower-end AMD cards though.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I agree...The first picture really didn't fit did it...Thanks for your comment..For all of my gaming life I've only experienced 1440x900, so someone I knew only had used this monitor 3 times, so when he said he would sell me this 1080p monitor for 70 bucks I jumped all over it..Thanks for the comments...

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Congrats on your first build, but just a bit of criticism that hopefully will help you build on a budget in the future: you've spent at least $115 more than necessary on things that you really didn't need for a perfectly good build, especially if you're not overclocking.

Five fans when the 200mm front fan that came with the case would do fine (maybe a 140mm for exhaust wouldn't hurt), a secondary DVD writer, an LED kit, thermal compound, a CPU cooler, the overpowered PSU -- all these little purchases could have just been money in your pocket, letting you build it sooner, or gone towards better components. On a budget build, you're trying to get the most bang for your buck, and you've spent a lot of bucks here.

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for all the great points...The Corsair fan on the rear of the case is a 140mm exhaust, it's just the 2 rosewill's exhausting on top are 120mm..I actually was going for a red and black theme so the little extra money spent on led fans, and stuff like that was in my mind ok..The overpowered psu if you look at the price most 600 watt psu's go for that price range so I feel since I was planning on running 2 660's in sli, the extra wattage would be nice, but I think I've chose possibly to go 970, or wait for AMD's next 300 card..I honestly feel with this build I got alot of bang for the buck, but it's always nice to hear others opinions..Thanks again..

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Looks great, giving me some awesome ideas for when I build. One question, how did you test if things were DOA without having all the parts together?

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I had a FX-6300 build that I built back in FEB of this year, so what I was doing was upgrading part by part, so the testing things one by one came in the old system to make sure all was good...What kind of system are you planning on building? Thanks for the comments

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm aiming for a good budget build, either the fx 6300 or g3258, something I can build on that'll work for gaming; with most likely an r9 270x. I like msi because their parts work great when paired together. What do you think?

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

I was very happy with my 6300, and I still have it..If you're just gaming that pentium g chip you mentioned is a monster (Check linus' video) I love these new MSI parts for everything they bring to the table now, looks, performance, etc..I'm not fond of the command center, but that's not a big deal..If you go with the 270x, the Sapphire dual x looks amazing, (Non-MSI I know lol) and I have a friend who has that card and his temps are very nice..

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

ok I guess it'll really just come down to budget and the most upgradability. Thanks a lot!

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Good luck, and no problem..I've taught myself most of what I know about computers, sometimes people can be rude and elitist in the computer world, but this is a great hobby to have..I'm really looking forward to what you build now lol..

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Why the nVidia 660? That GPU is pretty old by now.

+1 however for sharing a nice build

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Great question..at the time of purchase the 760 was around 260 ish, so I thought my end goal would be to sli 2 of these in the future, but with the newer maxwell 900's out now I'm def re-thinking that whole idea..Thanks for the question

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Not bad,

But people hate the name "beast" for your rig.

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Well, I think the name beast is a relative term..If your used to gaming on all the new parts and have money for that I def would think you would sniff at my rig lol...But coming from a 6300 build before this and an apu trinity build before that one, this thing is def beast to me..Also, once I upgrade to a ssd and a newer maxwell card, maybe this thing can be more beastly lol...Sorry if it offended anyone, wasn't what I was trying to do..Thanks for your comments

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Great color schema

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

switch out the 660 for an r9 280 (same price)

  • 62 months ago
  • 1 point

well when I bought this 660 the 280 was 250 ish...When I do upgrade here soon I was thinking the MSI 970 or the ASUS 970...what do you think?

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

sounds magical1

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

That is such a cute MSI card there, xD.

  • 62 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build. If I were to upgrade, I would probably go with the 280x or 280... Your choice, though

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Did you have to update the BIOS on that board?

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Nope...everything was good to go

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

I would like to ask how are the temperatures with the 8350 at full load aswell as hows the MOBO holding up

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

Temps with this setup are amazing...I usually run at max temp 44c...(That's with every core at 100%) The mobo has done really well so far, and the VRM heatsinks are all that like everyone said they would be..

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Did you oveclock? Sorry for all the questions, I'm buying the same CPU+Mobo and wanna know what problems will arise. When you say "VRM heatsinks are all that like everyone said they would be.." what do you mean? What configuration is your top fans at Push or Pull if I may ask?

  • 61 months ago
  • 1 point

No you/re find I don't mind all the questions at all...Ok, the VRM's are the voltage regualator modules, and on my old board (Biostar 970) they burnt up and couldn't handle the 8350...They were 4+2, the ones on this board are 8+2...I haven't overclocked, mainly because I haven't felt the need too...The top fans are push, basically the front 200mm fan pulls, the bottom 120mm pulls, then the 2 tops fans 120mm push and the 140mm on the back push also..I don't anticipate any problems coming from this Cpu+Mobo combo at all...I bought this mobo after it had been out only 2 days, and MSI hasn't let me down...If you can think of any other questions let me know, it's a big purchase...

  • 61 months ago
  • 2 points

Almost like my build.

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Hey I also have the Enthoo Pro and was wondering if you could post a pic of the case with the side panel on this time so that I can properly see how the effects of the red LED strips look. I'm thinking of lighting up my case (also red) but I'm not sure how it will look in the Enthoo Pro

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

sure

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Thx :) btw check out my build if u want :)

http://pcpartpicker.com/b/KKxYcf

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $34.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $145.98 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $80.98 @ Newegg
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.99 @ Newegg
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card $349.99 @ Newegg
Case Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case $99.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $52.99 @ Newegg
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN722N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter $14.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan $2.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan $2.99 @ Newegg
Total
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available $1068.87
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-28 20:41 EST-0500
  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

That's going to be a beast gaming rig...Digging the msi 970...Let me know how it all works out

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

I actually built it about a month ago (exactly on black friday which saved me like $90 on everything including a $135 ASUS 24" IPS monitor, the real cost of my build was exactly $1100, inclding monitor and anti-static wrist strap) Anyway, the system runs great, the msi 970 is completely silent and gets avg 80 FPS in BF4 Ultra 1080p 16x AF and never goes above 65 degrees Celsius. The enthoo pro, there is so much u can compliment about it, it's beautiful, massive, which allows for optimal airflow and many future upgrades (such as watercooling, more fans, SLI/crossfire, etc.), easy to manage cables, and its CHEAP! Seriously man this case is my baby and I can't wait to illuminate the interior! Hope u enjoy ur build as well :)

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

I'm guessing that you like MSI?

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

I really like their dependability, plus the new red and black dragon theme is pretty bad ***...

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Nice build! I like that you set out with a completely red color scheme in mind and never lost sight of your plans. Very good choice of board; that 970 Gaming is the best-looking 970 board out there, and that 8+2 VRM looks like it can take on OC'ed Piledriver easy.

Hopefully you do know by now that Vishera chips don't report temperatures properly; just something to watch out for if you ever do decide to push your FX-8350 hard, those temperatures are anything but accurate.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

I've used speccy, nvidia system temps, and now msi afterburner...is there anything else you can think of to get a better idea of accurate temps?

  • 59 months ago
  • 0 points

Does MSI's BIOS give readings as well? Usually BIOS readings on AM3+ can be a bit more accurate.

It's really complicated though; it's not so much that the temps are inaccurate, it's just that they have this crazy offset and AMD measures temperatures in relation to a certain mark, I think.

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Yea the Msi gaming bios is one of the best interfaces I've used...I idle in bios around 18c..I used the command center for about 5 mins and it started bugging out, eventually BSOD so yea that thing had to go...Overall though, I've been pretty content with speccy and msi afterburner...Both usually show the same temps, (Even though Afterburner is just gpu temp) and when I'm under max load my mobo temps show about 10c below my cpu temp...The only thing I don't like about speccy is it doesn't show the cpu socket temp, and with HW monitor I found their readings to be off...

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Another thought also is if I try to eventually push this cpu I will def invest in a self contained water cooler..Nothing to overkill, but yea, I'm thinking anything over 4.5 needs water...I live in an area where in the summer it's extremely hot too so that's also something I think about concerning the ambient temps..

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  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Hi I was thinking about purchasing the MSI MoBo for my first build and I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on the layout of the board

Thanks :)

  • 59 months ago
  • 1 point

Not sure all of what I can answer for you, but I will give it a shot...The 8-pin power connector top left is kinda weird, so I had to buy an extension to do proper cable management, I love the fan headers and where they are, and I love the sata ports and how they are set up as well...I have a decent sized cpu air cooler, and I had no problem fitting all my 4 sticks of ram..If you can think of any other ?'s you may have hmu, but this mobo to me is awesome and I would recommend it to anyone

  • 59 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks so much! I'm excited to buy the MoBo! Thanks for the help! Though I'm not one to worry too much about the cable management, as long as it's tidy and I have decent to great airflow. The colour of the board ties my build together, the. black and red colour scheme, so awesome!! Thanks so much!

Link to my build- http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/CosmicCerealYT/saved/BJ8XsY

  • 58 months ago
  • 1 point

Why do you have two optical drives?

  • 55 months ago
  • 1 point

fx-8350 multimedia cpu and then a gtx 660

no comment

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

Can you overclock on that heat sync? If so, can you tell me what overclock you achieved?

  • 49 months ago
  • 1 point

Im a noob when it comes to pcs but is there differnce in evga and msi graphics cards

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  • 60 months ago
  • 1 point

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