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A MOVABLE FEAST (G3258 / R9 285 / PC-TU200)

by smallcaps

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Details

Date Published

Sept. 29, 2014

Date Built

Sept. 1, 2014

CPU Clock Rate

4.5GHz

CPU Temperature While Idle

39.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

79.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate

1.0GHz

GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate

1.5GHz

GPU Temperature While Idle

39.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

79.0° C

Description

*This PC was purchased and built in Australia so prices in your country may vary.

A MOVABLE FEAST was conceived as phase 1 of an OC hobby kit / project toolbox / LAN party / HTPC / emu rig that will be upgraded to phase 2 (OLD MAN AND THE SEA) in 2016. Before dropping big bucks on a high-end CPU and GPU, I wanted to get the hang of overclocking again as I haven't really overclocked since my Celeron 300A days. Most of the parts are new with the exception of the hard drives, which have been inherited from upgraded laptops and PCs. I wanted a balance of portability, performance and silence, so I consider these overclocks adequate with respect to the overall build characteristics. Both the CPU and GPU could be pushed farther, but for a reasonably quiet portable gaming rig that I can bring onto a train as carry-on luggage, this suits my needs nicely.

Parts Selection Rationale

CPU

  • Cheap and good enough for the next year of games.
  • Fun to overclock

CPU Cooler

  • Almost a default selection considering the confines of the case.
  • Air cooling would be quite limited due to case constraints.
  • Smaller AIO liquid cooling (such as the H80) would require an adapter for the 140mm fan mount in the case, which would eat into GPU length clearance.

Motherboard

  • Excellent overall package and quality kit from Asus.
  • Provides a decent upgrade path as it should support Broadwell with a bios upgrade.
  • Full PWM fan control headers on the motherboard.
  • IMHO Asus has the best fan control in the business.

Memory

  • Went with the fastest and cheapest ram i could find that still had a lifetime warranty.
  • Maxed-out the capacity as on this motherboard I wanted to set it and forget it.

Storage

  • Mechanical hard drives are all inherited from previous systems.
  • Used an M.2 ssd to minimize cabling, which is important for this build.

Videocard

  • Best performing $250 AUD card at the time of buying.
  • Free games!

Case

  • It's completely aluminium, has excellent build quality, and the best part is that it has a handle.

Power Supply

  • 140mm means it fits better in this case.
  • PP05-E cable kit is a must!

Case Fan

  • One Fan to Cool Them All!

Final Overclocks

  • Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz overclocked to 4.5GHz (1.35v)
  • Min/max CPU temps of 39c-79c
  • Cache overclocked to 4.1GHz (1.25v)
  • DDR3-2400MHz
  • XFX Radeon R9 285 overclocked to 1000MHz core clock and 1500MHz memory clock
  • Min/max GPU temps of 39c-79c
  • Stability testing using (http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2195063) to the gold standard
  • OCCT GPU test for GPU core overclock stability
  • Furmark Burn-in test for GPU memory overclock stability
  • Final test using simultaneous OCCT and Valley Benchmark for 3h

Install Tips

  • The ST65F-G (140mm long PSU) and PP05-E (modular short cables) are perfect for this build
  • Installed PSU w/ fan facing down towards the CPU as it has to double as exhaust
  • Considered SFX PSU but opted for the larger fan of the ST65F-G
  • H90 mounted leaves about 270mm of clearance for GPU (total length including PSU cable headers)
  • 270mm gpu clearance means both reference and evga gtx 980 cards could fit
  • you could even put a titan in there if you were inclined
  • Two of the mechanical hard drives are mounted in a Max 5 Duo
  • Picked the XFX specifically for its price-to-performance and cooling-to-size ratio
  • Low-cost alternative considered was the GTX 750 ti and high-cost alternative considered was the GTX 970
  • Mechanical hard drive mounted on the bottom of the case does not lie underneath the GPU
  • If you do get a longer GPU with cooling that lies over the HD mount, put an SSD there instead considering heat issues

Phase 2 (OLD MAN AND THE SEA) 2016 Upgrade

  • Intel i7-5775c
  • Nvidia Titan X
  • 3x SSD RAID0

Comments Sorted by:

swimmer1929 1 Build 4 points 37 months ago

First build on PCPartPicker with an R9 285

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 2 points 37 months ago

Will upload GPU-z screenshots soon...

devlos 1 Build 3 points 37 months ago

Nice work. Looks like cables can be hell in that case. How do you like the M.2 sad, I want one. That noctua fan is a monster 158.5 cmf.Another G3258 put to good use.

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 2 points 37 months ago

The M.2 SSD is nice in regards to case management. No power or sata cables are nice. Speed wise I went with a normal AHCI SSD and not one of the new PCIe ones. Works fine but performs exactly like it's non-M.2 counterpart. Eventually I will upgrade to PCIe SSDs once they are cheaper.

devlos 1 Build 2 points 37 months ago

Thats about how I feel too. I'll wait for price to come down or find a barely used one. I think there cool thought, being so small and fast.

brelovix 2 points 37 months ago

nice

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 1 point 37 months ago

cheers :)

PacificNic 4 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

How does that G3258 hold up in gaming? I need a replacement for my aging Phenom II CPU because it is holding back my performance. Do you think that it would be able to keep up with a 290 or not?

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 2 points 37 months ago

So far it's been fine for the limited gaming that I do. I think for most 2013 titles it will play on medium-high settings with my current gpu. However I don't see the cpu being relevant past 2016 as we see more and more games utilizing multiple cpu threads (Star Citizen for instance). With my current overclock single threaded performance is amazing. Multithreaded performance not so much. I imagine having to upgrade to i7 in 2016 to keep up with new games but at $70 for the g3258, it's totally worth it if you leave yourself with a good upgrade path (z97 motherboard, etc.).

PacificNic 4 Builds 2 points 37 months ago

Yeah, but it would make a good kind of pit stop on my way to a revamped system :)

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 1 point 37 months ago

yup exactly :)

AugieBenDoggie 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

I've heard this cpu isn't powerful enough to power the bigger gpu's. It apparently caps out at the 760 on the Nvidia side. But I don't know where it caps out on the AMD side.

SirSnugzAlot 2 points 34 months ago

Do you like the 285?

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 1 point 34 months ago

so far it's been great. with the new omega drivers, it seems smoother...

ocd 1 Build 2 points 29 months ago

Your build comments were concise, accurate, and helpful in my build. Many thanks. You might want to concider new gtx 980 ti with 6Gb vram. I read that system should have at least double the ram of gpu for max performance.

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 2 points 29 months ago

Thanks for the kind words and i'm happy to help where i can. i am certainly considering a next-gen gpu soon, but i'm also excited for the i7-5775C. atm i think my cpu is the 'bottleneck' in my system as i still game in 1080p.

i have also read the same regarding system memory versus video memory, but i have also read some random forum reports that say that stability seems fine even with less memory then suggested by Nvidia. I think tom's tested the titan x with only 16gb in their testbed setup:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-x-gm200-maxwell,4091-2.html

AugieBenDoggie 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

The guy on TechYesCity has mentioned that the G3258 isn't powerful enough to power the bigger GPUs. For example, he says that an Nvidia 770 experiences problems, but that the 760 plays well. I was wondering where this cpu caps out on the AMD side. Have you had micro stuttering or any other problems?

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 1 point 36 months ago

i believe that the loss of frame rate due to the cpu bottleneck is marginal (+/-10%) so its not as drastic, considering the costs savings. you also have a decent upgrade path if you do need more cores and avx, etc. down the road, which is where i believe the real bottleneck for future games will be. the g3258 is inadequate for games like star citizen, for instance, where cores are better utilized. even with my modest overclock however, i can still play most games (currently shadow of mordor, civ beyond earth, dolphin emu, etc.) on medium-to-high settings with no issues at all - smooth as butter.

AugieBenDoggie 1 Build 3 points 35 months ago

Thanks!

Sphyloid 1 Build 1 point 33 months ago

Would have went with an Athlon X4 760x, very good build otherwise

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 1 point 32 months ago

i did give amd serious thought but i opted for the upgrade options of z97. hoping broadwell will be worth it.

Jammyjamessmith1 1 point 5 months ago

Can you tell me if it is an atx psu that fits, 160mm long if I removed the hard drive cage. But then where would I put my hdd and ssd?

smallcaps submitter 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

I am using a psu that's 140mm and purchased a drive cage that houses 2.5 inch drives into the 5.25 drive bay. I also have a drive mounded at the bottom of the case, as well as use an m.2 ssd on the motherboard.

I would not go longer than 160mm for the psu as it can get pretty cramped in there. I also use silverstone's short pus wire kit, as cable management can be difficult in this case. I would go with modular cables if you can swing it.

Regardless of the above, I do love the case very much

Good luck!