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Lian Li Toaster (PC-Q38WA)

by Raedyn



Date Published

April 5, 2018

Date Built

March 31, 2018

CPU Clock Rate


CPU Temperature While Idle

26.0° C

CPU Temperature Under Load

68.0° C

GPU Core Clock Rate


GPU Effective Memory Clock Rate


GPU Temperature While Idle

27.0° C

GPU Temperature Under Load

73.0° C


I transferred components from my Lian Li PC-05SX to the Lian Li PC-Q38WA and I absolutely love this smaller case. While the case is small, nothing inside it feels cramped. I was initially hesitant to buy it, because I thought the original HD and PSU mounts ruined the aesthetics of the case, but once I realized they could both easily be removed, I bought it.

It was relatively easy to build in, but I was completely dissatisfied with my first attempt. Without using the provided HD and PSU mounts, there aren't any good options for cable management, so I modded a PSU mount. I used two "L" brackets, with four bolts attached to the ventilation holes on right-side panel, using o-rings (upgrade; not in pic), washers and nuts at every point of contact.

The new PSU mount allows for over 2.5 inches of space between the PSU and right side-panel. This ended up being more than enough space to hide all of the cables. Removing the back panel now requires the extra step of disconnecting the cables from the PSU first, but I don't mind it. I really like the way it turned out.

Besides the roominess in a SFF case, I like the overall look of it. I've been using black cases for a very long time (the last silver case that I had was a CM Cosmos), and I wasn't convinced silver would be a good option. I'm glad I did. I think the black and silver internal parts, combined with the silver exterior, tie the entire look together nicely.

I also like way all of the panels are easily removed, without the need for screws. There are also no rivets in this case (at least none that I could see). I especially like that there is plenty of ventilation on the top, bottom, rear, and even the right side-panel. Finally, the case is rigid, but also very light.

What I don't like is that there aren't many options for adding fans, but I'm not sure that I need them anyway. I tried to install two Noctua NF-A12x15 FLX fans (15mm thick) to the bottom panel of the case. They ended up being slightly too thick to fit under the GPU. I might go with Scythe Slip Stream SY1212SL12H, which are slimmer at 12mm, but so far heat is not an issue at GPU stock speeds and I like how quiet it currently is. There is also a mount for an 80mm fan at the rear of the case, but my AIO cooler tubes are currently in the way.

There also aren't any good options for mounting a HDD without using the provided mount. That's ok for me since I have an M.2 on the MB and an SSD which I was able to mount to inside part of the front panel (on the bottom panel in the pics; since moved).

Finally, I would have preferred a tempered glass panel over acrylic, but that likely would have increased the cost and weight of the case. At a little over $100 and 5 1/2 pounds in weight (empty), I'll take the acrylic. I can always have a replacement tempered glass window made later.

I use this machine mostly for gaming, browsing and some productivity. If you are looking for a small form factor PC, without having to cram cables or lose a side window, then this is a pretty good option.

12 APR 2018:

I tried the Scythe fans and they did nothing to further cool the GPU. They may just have been too close to the card.

I also added a few more pics of my setup.

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LonghornAlamo2040 6 points 3 months ago

Does it engrave my bread with the Razer logo?

Nerdatron_of_Pi 3 points 3 months ago

Can't go wrong with that Trident Z ram. That stuff is SPICY

LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 3 months ago


Nerdatron_of_Pi 1 point 3 months ago

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LonghornAlamo2040 1 point 2 months ago


Nerdatron_of_Pi 1 point 2 months ago

Sorry it looked like the word 'spicy' when I typed it

UneditedSkunk 1 point 3 months ago

Very clean, very small. I might be out of the loop here, but is that a custom mouse grip?

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Thanks! Yes, I added some GT-5000 grip tape to the sides of my mouse. It makes a great mouse even better.

mrkohlbeck 9 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

How hot is your 960 getting? I have the same board with a 500gb in a Lian-Li TU200B. That thing gets to like 60C and stays there.

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

CAM shows the max at 49C. This is the first time I've ever checked it, so I don't know whether it's ever run hotter than that.

jsoutherland89 4 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Dang that is clean! My OCD self loved every single picture. Easy +1

Houndour 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

What a result. You beautiful maverick renegade. Im envious.

xieagle 1 point 3 months ago

Do you get any coil whine from the GPU or the PSU while you have high FPS? I heard that Corsair PSU can cause the GPU to coil whine. I have RM850X and getting coil whine from my MSI Sea Hawk X 1070.

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

I have not had any coil whine issues with the SFX600 and the EVGA GTX 1080 at least not at GPU stock settings (except for power limit).

xieagle 1 point 3 months ago

Thank you :)

kenlao 1 point 3 months ago

why does your x52 possition like that? is there a clearance issue?

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Yes, There is a slight clearance issue. The tubes on the side of the AIO pump will push up against the RAM, if I orient the pump correctly. It may be ok that way, but I don't want to gamble.

kenlao 1 point 3 months ago

i see thanks :3

Na+Cl- 1 point 3 months ago

I have the same pump/board, I installed it in the standard position. It does push on the RAM, but it's been about a year and I've had no issues. After seeing this , I may turn mine as well - wish it was possible to rotate the NZXT logo.

DaMysteryMan 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Wow, nice clean build!

Jackison 1 point 3 months ago

1st off congrats for getting featured. Would def like to see more pics. In pic 3 it looks like that left PSU mount is crooked... Can you please fix so my OCD is happier lol. JK

Anyansayo 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Is it delidded? The 61C under load temperature is pretty low for a 4.8GHz OC. I OC'd my 8350K to 4.5 with a Kraken X62 and I get up to 68. Is the 8700K just that much more thermally efficient?

BetrayedPredator 1 point 3 months ago

The 8700k turbos to 4.7ghz so it a pretty useless overclock, he shouldn’t have touched voltage which is why the low temps

The 8700k runs hot, so it’s definitely not thermally efficient

Anyansayo 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago


Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I tried a 5GHz OC but the PC was unstable, even when tweaking the settings heavilly. It will do 4.9GHz reliably, but I prefer even numbers.

While 4.8GHz is basically what the CPU turbos to, at least the cores are synch'd and it will stay above the 3.7GHz stock speed.

SirHalpin 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

What a project! This looks fantastic, and you're right it doesn't feel cramped at all. +1

HarvesterofSorrow 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

holy moly

eeem1214 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

is anyone else annoyed how g-sync monitors are as expensive as graphics cards

Nater650 1 point 3 months ago


joshwhite 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

I like what you did with the desk for the cables. Mind me asking what the diamater is of the circle for the chords? Nice build and super clean! +1

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks! The hole is 1 1/2 inches or 38mm.

cmdr_flint 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Stunning rig and very clean setup in general +1

General-Zod 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

It could not be smaller and more awesome!

cooperj600 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I'm diggin the setup, well done

DarthSceledrus 1 point 3 months ago

How did you route your Keyboard and Mouse cables?

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 2 points 3 months ago

Mouse cable routed under keyboard and then both keyboard and mouse cables routed into a 1 1/2 inch diameter hole in the desktop.

CaptinFapin 1 point 3 months ago

that is CLEAN!! how did you hide your cables?

Jesso2k 8 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Wow I'm getting a strong urge to drill a hole in the middle of my table now.

GloriousPcMaster 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Please PLEASE take the plastic scratch protector off of your motherboards chipset heatsink! It is upsetting me :D

But seriously - lovely build, I am a big fan of some of the Lian Li Cases

Raedyn submitter 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Hah, I didn't realize that was still on there.

abtomat 1 point 3 months ago


Gooberdad 8 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Great looking customization. I really like how you changed the inside of the case by moving the little psu.

Thumbs up and congrats on the featured spot.

thexbug 1 point 3 months ago

Clean, simple and beautiful setup

OrbitalBuzzsaw 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Damn Lian Li makes a lot of cases.

redsown36 1 point 3 months ago

The monitor is a trash choice in all honesty.

Mac_670 1 Build 0 points 3 months ago

Expensive toaster. GG