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CPU upgrading

Dunnster90
  • 5 months ago

I have a Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 and have been playing red dead online. I have a GTX 1060 6Gb and am thinking of upgrading to GTX 2070 super today. Or should i upgrade my CPU?? any help is appreciated this is my first pc build. i built it a year and a half ago.

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  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

use something like MSI afterburner to see how much of the CPU and GPU you're using to see which one would benefit more from an upgrade. make sure to look at each individual core on the CPU as one core pegging means you're pegged for performance on that application/game. (League of legends for example uses like 1 core super heavy so overall CPU usage would show like 10% even though the CPU is the limiting factor.)

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the help. like i asked dschutt84, if i upgrade gpu today can i upgrade my cpu down the line? is the cpu plug and play like gpu's seem to be??

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

IMO that’s not a very balanced build unless you plan to eventually upgrade the CPU eventually. Probably best to just look at the 2060 super instead.

I don’t own Red Dead but I hear it’s a terrible port with a lot of issues. Best to look at reviews of system specs and see how it performs.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks for the help. If I go with the 2070 Super today can i upgrade my cpu down the line to balance the build back up??

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Yes, you can upgrade the CPU but its not so much plug and play. You'll have to update the bios, which isn’t hard at all. Depending on your motherboard, you really shouldn’t have an issue with a 3600 or 3700X at later date or even a 2700X. The Ryzen 9 lineup is mostly for B450 and up and shouldn’t be installed on a B350 which I think you might have?

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $174.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage TCSunBow - X3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $53.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card $259.00 @ Newegg
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $24.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $95.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor Asus - VG245H 24.0" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor $171.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1074.30
Mail-in rebates -$45.00
Total $1029.30
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-09 13:04 EDT-0400
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  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

Just keep in mind, the 2070 super is aimed at higher resolution gaming or higher refresh rate (144hz) gaming on 1080p. For example, if you're carrying a 60hz locked panel @ 1080p, you'd be better off sticking with the GTX 1060 and upgrading the CPU to a Ryzen 3600 to secure 60fps. If limited by GPU design, for this type of display output, a GTX 1660 SUPER / TI is more than sufficient.

So what is your displays resolution and refresh rate?

Another thing to consider - if the current GPU's getting the job done at a respectable rate, you might fancy waiting a little longer (3 months or so) for NVIDIA's next GEN AMPERE GPUs. "Hopefully" better performance at more competitive cost. AMD is also set to officially announce up-n-coming 7nm process node GPUs (possibly during the Jan 2020 @ CES).

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor $174.88 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.89 @ OutletPC
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
Storage TCSunBow - X3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $53.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GT OCV1 Video Card $259.00 @ Newegg
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $24.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $95.89 @ OutletPC
Monitor Asus - VG245H 24.0" 1920x1080 75Hz Monitor $171.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $1074.30
Mail-in rebates -$45.00
Total $1029.30
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-09 13:04 EDT-0400
  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks for your help so far.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

i heard about a conference or something like that from a co-worker, i havent pulled the trigger on anything yet but I am interested in upgrading my pc a bit in the near future.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

What you have there is a 75hz panel which is capable hitting 75fps max. At this resolution and capped refresh rate, the display will bottleneck the 2070 SUPER quire considerably hence you'll end up with a "whole lot of GPU" and with not enough "utilisation" to justify the $500-$550 spend.

A more befitting approach:

  • GTX 1660 SUPER which easily grabs 75fps via demanding games on top settings (best fit in terms of performance and value)

  • RTX 2060 - plenty of performance headroom + ray tracing (more of the enthusiast approach)

  • RTX 2060 SUPER - if you fancy some overkill (a neat option if you're considering upgrading to a 144hz panel in the long run).


[OPTIONAL]

If that was my build here in 2019 and if I had a budget of $500-$550, I'd raise a little extra cash (saving/loan/etc) to achieve the following:

  • Ryzen 3600X CPU. 1080p gaming responds very nicely with faster single threaded cores

  • Faster RAM - preferably 16GB

  • Newer compatible motherboard to unlock all of the CPU/chipset features

  • A GTX 1660 SUPER graphics card.

Something like this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $0.00
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $0.00
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Super 6 GB SC ULTRA GAMING Video Card $239.99 @ Best Buy
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $0.00
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $0.00
Monitor Asus VG245H 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $624.96
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-24 12:17 EST-0500

Once achieved, sell the swapped parts and you should see a nice return on your spending spree. The 1600 CPU is still pretty solid and holds decent re-sale value - something worth taking advantage of.

Alternatively, if you're looking to land ray tracing - grab a RTX 2060 (or RTX 2060 SUPER overkill) and save up for a future upgrade with the likes of a Ryzen 4000 CPU which is expected in Mid/late-2020.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

man this is really helpful. pretty much right inside my budget of 500 to 700 to. hhhmmm lol.

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

glad it helps... double glad the budget has wings @ $700 which allows you to push for a better balanced upgrade.

If the RTX card is of priority for ray tracing / added performance ceiling, this is also possible with a $700 budget. Keeping the faster RAM in check, this comes to $710, eg.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $69.99 @ Newegg
Storage TCSunBow X3 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $0.00
Storage Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $0.00
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $349.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $0.00
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $0.00
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $0.00
Monitor Asus VG245H 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $709.96
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-24 14:30 EST-0500
  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

MSI over Nvidia eh?

  • 5 months ago
  • 1 point

the warning has me concerned tho.

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