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Great AMD Gaming/Streaming Build

by ThoughtA

Description

CPU

At this budget, we're using the AMD Ryzen 5 2600X. Added to the list is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition, which will perform better and more quietly than the stock cooler.

Note: If you'd prefer to consider a similar build, but instead using an Intel processor, be sure to check out our Great Intel Gaming Build Guide.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for ATX B450 chipsets and up to 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build, and it will automatically update with the best priced option as prices change.

Memory

For our memory, the parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications. We've limited it to DDR4-3000 and faster speeds, as Ryzen CPUs scale well with higher frequency memory.

Storage

We're use parametric filters to incorporate an SSD with at least 1TB of space. We have also added a parametric filter for a 2TB mechanical drive for mass storage, such as extra games and videos. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to add or remove capacity to your heart's desire.

GPU

For our GPU, the Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 is one of the best price for performance cards on the market. The RTX 2060 will provide a consistent 60fps on many demanding games like PUBG) at Ultra at 1080p, and even 1440p for some games like Apex Legends. It'll also handle Fortnite with zero issues. For those interested in VR, this card will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

For streaming, the newly-updated NVENC encoding will offload the task to the GPU with a minimal performance hit using OBS (Open Broadcaster Software) while providing image quality similar to or better than x264 Fast quality.

To keep the noise and temperatures down, we've updated the filter to include a minimum length to avoid "mini" versions of the card, which prioritize fitting into small builds, such as an ITX case. You can choose to use this filter instead, if you want to include the smaller cards for any reason. Note that smaller cards will be louder or hotter - or both.

Case

All of our parts are on display in the Phanteks Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass. This case features a clean design and a tempered glass window. It includes 2x front panel USB 3.1 Gen 1 ports, a PSU shroud, and a number of cable management holes and tie-offs to help your build look cleaner. It can also fit full-sized video cards.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed semi or fully modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified or above and can provide plenty of power for this build.

Intel Version

Here is the Intel version of our Great Gaming Guide.

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 309W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $293.36 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $293.36 Amazon Australia Buy
CPU Cooler $56.10 $12.00 $68.10 Newegg Australia Buy
Motherboard
From parametric filter
  • Form Factor: ATX
  • Chipset: AMD B450
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
$138.00 $138.00 Shopping Express Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
$122.68 $122.68 Amazon Australia Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 960 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: SSD
$155.29 $155.29 Amazon Australia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2000 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$46.40 $46.40 Amazon Australia Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce RTX 2060
  • Length: 223 mm - 403 mm
$559.00 $559.00 Austin Computers Buy
Case $89.00 $89.00 PCCaseGear Buy
Power Supply $119.00 $119.00 Austin Computers Buy
Base Total: $1578.83
Shipping: $12.00
Total: $1590.83
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

crAckZ 16 points 1 month ago

thanks. I have spent the past 2 days putting together a similar build doubting certain things. I like this setup. i was really torn on the graphics card and going with the Ryzen 7. I created this account to say thank you.

ThoughtA staff submitter 10 points 1 month ago

No problem! Thanks for the kind words.

asianoodleman 1 point 1 month ago

do you think this is also good? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/784bgw

TShaw13 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Motherboard and Ram wise your list would be better. The 2600 vs 2600x is just clock speed difference, you can overclock with an aftermarket cooler.

If you don't need the huge 1tb ssd and don't want gold rated psu your list looks just fine! Also the stock cooler will work, but keep an upgrade such as the one in the list above in mind. I'm currently looking at the 212 black rgb version for my ryzen pc. The stock cooler will be louder and not as efficient especially when going for an overclock

asianoodleman 2 points 1 month ago

would my PSU cause any problems in the future or is it fine for this build? and I plan on keeping the stock cooler but I won't be overclocking. thank you again for answering!

TShaw13 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Should be fine, google says the 2060 uses around 170watts.

The one you have spec'd is the same one I put in my build! I chose the 600watt as it was a good price and i thought gave some good headroom without being overkill.

Greasy-Peanut 1 point 2 days ago

its good, but i think i have a better idea for that https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Greasy-Peanut/saved/XgnTCJ

skully425 -4 points 17 days ago

I would recommend ditching the rtx 2060 and going straight to the 2070. It's only around 40 dollars more than the 2060 you have in your build and it performs significantly better.

gokukhan17 2 points 7 days ago

What 2070 is 40 dollars more than the 2060 liar?

matthewle 1 point 4 days ago

its $150 more ....

matthewwind 1 point 1 month ago

Why motherboard pick b450 not x470? What different

AlexNotReally 2 points 1 month ago

B450 and X470 are the same when it comes to overclocking, but generally X470 has better VRM's due to the higher price (Not in all cases, some X470 boards are very cheaply built), and the largest difference is that X470 has Multi-GPU support (I.E. Crossfire, SLI) If Multi-GPU is not important and you are not doing extreme overclocking, B450 is an ideal option.

Teohelm 7 points 1 month ago

This is not a good build at all. Where do I begin? Let us just go in order. The motherboard has bad ratings and has problems including boards being DOA and headers not working and even one frying out a cases led's. Not good. The ram has HORRIBLE timings as well as not being fast enough to get the most from the 2600 x because of the infinity fabric. You will be leaving performance on the table as 3200 is the sweet spot. I haven't checked but it would surprise me if that ram was Samsung B-die which makes a potential triple whammy of issues. Next is the ADATA SSD. Over 44% of ratings at one place alone rate this SSD at 2 stars OR UNDER with a high failure rate. That means almost a 50% chance of that drive crapping out on you or being dead right out of the box. I would not buy any pc part with that high of a crap rating. I wouldn't buy a vacuum cleaner with that high a crap rating let alone ANY pc part. Why would you take that kind of chance? Next is the Ultrastar HDD, which is basically the same issue(s) as the SSD. The cherry on top of all of this is that the price for the Phanteks case is for Newegg Business which not everyone can get which means the actual price for most of us is actually $59.99 and not $55.98. If you got these parts you better put your hands together and pray to your deity of choice because you will need the help hoping this lasts you more than a year at most before something will have to be replaced. Sure it looks good if you don't do any research and don't know/understand what the hell you are looking at.

skadidle 2 points 1 month ago

Finally, someone who doesn't simply praise the guide or asks is this good enough for X?

Could you also provide solutions to the problems you are pointing out?

Teohelm 3 points 27 days ago

The main thing that would fix a lot of these problems is doing research. It may sound boring but as with anything else you are going to spend good money one you want to make sure you are getting the parts that will do what you want and not crap out on you while doing it. Watch reviews on youtube by several different people, read reviews on several sites and maybe get first-hand knowledge from anyone you might know. If 40% of the reviews say part x is crap across several different sites, then it probably is, especially if it's one of the cheapest models of that part. Despite this, there is a chance that a part you get is dead out of the box, but that is the nature of buying manufactured parts, every now and then you will get a dud, it happens.

The problem here seems to be 3 fold... 1. The main posters on here (ThoughtA and Manirelli) can't seem to do a good build on here if their lives depended on it imo. I don't know their credentials and they could be 2 dudes in their mother's basement for all I know but man alive. For example, I have actually seen them say on more than one occasion that single channel memory is fine because the benefits of dual channel (using 2 sticks of memory as opposed to 1) is negligible. This is WAY WRONG. Your fps will suffer greatly if you go with one stick to save money. They also use the parametric filters the choose the cheapest parts they can (most of the time) which leads to the problems of choosing the crappiest parts for their builds. As I said, I wouldn't take those kinds of odds on a vacuum let along my $500, $1000, $1500 etc build. You are literally just asking for problems. If you can you take that potential problem out of the equation, you do it and not add to it.

  1. They way they label their builds on here. They label them from "entry level to magnificent" which is VERY misleading. Those names have nothing to do with the quality or capability of the builds but just a moniker to put on them according to the tier of the build within a stack of builds in their opinion. So one of their builds could be labeled "magnificent" but have the very same problems as the "entry level" build which shouldn't be problems at all, to begin with.

  2. The fact that, as you have pointed out, damn near everyone just says "great build, fantastic build, etc...) when if just a little bit of research would be done, I'm talking 5 freaking minutes, you or ANYONE would come across the same problems that I have. It literally boggles my mind as to how seemingly no one can see what I am seeing. If you needed to buy a new battery for your car or a new tv would you purposefully buy one with a rating where 35-45% of the time the battery or tv will be absolute crap? Again, I would hope the hell not but that doesn't stop them from doing it over and over and over with, as you said, everyone praising them for it. One more thing that they do in regards to the Ryzen builds, is the constant use of 3000 memory. As you may or may not know 3200 is the sweet spot for Ryzen due to the infinity fabric interconnect in the chip. anything slower than 3200 and you ARE AND WILL cost yourself performance ESPECIALLY in games. With the prices coming down on ram especially there is no reason (unless for some reason your motherboard cannot use memory that fast or you simply can not afford for some reason to go with 3200 over 3000) that you should be using anything slower than 3200mhz ram period. This is a known fact, not opinion, fact. It may not be a great difference but it is enough, and again why purposefully hinder your build? I hope this answers some of your questions. Thanks for asking and have a good one.

skadidle 4 points 24 days ago

I get your frustration. I'm personally inclined to give everyone the benefit of the doubt though. I knew the 3200 ram thing, didn't think much of it that it's not selected for in the build though.

As far as I am concerned your critizim seems legitimate. Explanations that I can come up with why there isn't more scrutiny on the side of other posters:

  • people are lazy (i.e. making sure all parts are actually good takes considerable effort)
  • wanting an easy solution
  • some certainly are simply new to this (I see so many "My first build" posts)
  • price point vs claims about performance matches expectations (i.e. confirmation bias)

I think that the 5min to find the problems with these builds that you claim are a huge underestimation I would attribute to your experience. I happens to me too in other circumstances: when I think something should take me x amount of time others less experienced would take a lot longer. From my experience part of the problem there is that someone inexperienced doesn't even know where to look. This I guess ties in with being new to building computers for many.

So I think the best thing for you to do, besides pointing out all the things wrong with these guides, is to promote your own guides on every one of these builds. Seriously, I would love to see a moderate budget build from you, or one that you can recommend, best case along with some thoughts or pointers what your considerations were to choose the individual parts.

I especially like your point about making sure to spend money in a smart way. I find that often people spend a lot of time and energy about small purchases but through all of that out the window on larger "one time" purchases.

Anyways, thanks for the reply!

galacticgamezcom 1 point 1 day ago

Teohelm - So I clicked on your profile and I was just hoping you had a build sitting out there for between $500 and $1K. But did not see anything at all.

You have any builds you care to share with the community?

My goal right now is to build a gaming PC that is worthy of our gaming lounge that is sub $1K. Case wise I like the Thermaltake P3 because it is looks cool and you can mount it on the wall.

That being said - you have any build guides you want to share with everyone?

Teohelm 1 point 1 day ago

I do have 1 build sitting at about $587 called "BoneZ" at the bottom of my list. I tend not to do low cost builds just cuz they are not as much fun for me to do, but I will do one and send you a link. As far as any build guides to share, I'm not much into doing that, but you and anyone else is welcome to look at my list and ask any questions you may have.

Also, don't think of it so much as "being worthy", especially to everyone else, it should make you happy and know you did the best you could with what you have to spend. It doesn't have to be a showpiece for that.

Teohelm 1 point 1 day ago

Here are 3 new builds I did on the quick using atx, micro atx and mini itx form factors. They are a touch over 1k but there ya go.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teohelm/saved/qQqskL https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teohelm/saved/mmgskL https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Teohelm/saved/6PnQqs

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

This build does not have specific part selections. For a lot of it it uses parametric filters to choose the lowest price item that matches the filter so it adjusts to the current deals. Pretty sure this is just a rough guide. If you just buy everything on the list blindly, that's on you.

Teohelm 2 points 8 days ago

First, for the parametric filters that they use, yes, they are to select the cheapest part for the filter. Problem is that when you do that for ram, HDD, power supply, MB, you can and usually will end up with crap, which is exactly what happened in this build as well as other builds they do, regardless of the price of the overall build. No thanks.

Second, for this being a "rough guide", even if that is the case, you should never ever get the cheapest good luck to you crap unless you absolutely need a build and can not afford anything better. Even then I would rather look on eBay or the used market, so that too is a fail that they are purposefully perpetuating over and over knowing that a lot of people who don't necessarily know what others know will look to for an example of which parts to pick which is wrong IMO. It's probably safe to say that a good amount of people who come here are not enthusiasts and are looking for guidance and "get the cheapest stuff you can" is not the right guidance.

Third, as for buying everything blindly being on the buyer, read my above point.

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

"Problem is that when you do that for ram, HDD, power supply, MB, you can and usually will end up with crap"

"would rather look on eBay or the used market"

That's all I needed to see. That's the worst advice I've ever seen. You want to explain how a new part with a warranty and return policy is worse than a second hand product that may have been mistreated beyond belief? Most of the cheap products are just rebranded versions of a reputable company. How many factories do you think RAM and HDD's come from? Only thing to be worried about cheaping out on in all honesty is the PSU.

If you don't use a parametric filter, your list won't account for changing prices or big sales on good products. Within a week your list will be outdated.

Teohelm 2 points 8 days ago

I would be happy to explain. Let's take the HDD in this build for example, just at Newegg alone of all the people who bought this particular HDD it has a 33% rating of 2 stars or less with a high rate of drives that were either doa, faulty in some capacity or failed shortly thereafter. For a meager $1.50 more you can get a WD blue that is way more reliable but due to the filter, this crappy drive (IMO) was the one automatically chosen. A good quality used part can be better than a new low quality/high issue one any day long as it wasn't abused like a used GC used for mining.

Another example would be ram, by using the filter and getting the cheap ram, not only will it more than likely be 3000mhz or slower, but with horrible cas16 timings which is not only very bad for gaming as far as 1% lows and minimums, but if you are doing a Ryzen build you are costing yourself noticeable gaming performance due to holding back the ability of the processor. Not only that but the odds are also that the ram won't be Samsung B-die which can cause compatibility issues as well with Ryzen. None of that is any good or worth the risk to save a couple of bucks if unnecessarily.

Any parts you have in your build will automatically change as it goes on sale due to the default setting of "Use Current Lowest Price From Your Preferred Merchants" by clicking on the little gear next to the buy button. That being said some merchants aren't always listed even if that particular merchant carries said part which is another issue the programmers of this site need to fix. Even if they don't, Google is your friend, that's what it's there for and you can always input your own price if you found it somewhere that's not automatically listed.

Remember a good pc IS the sum of its parts, not just one or two, but all of them, one crappy part can stifle a builds ability to do what you want to it's best ability or even not work at all. I would rather spend a little more on parts (as I would think anyone would, if possible) to minimize that risk as much as possible for the best overall experience, longevity, and performance, but that's just me.

Just getting the cheapest parts you can and worrying about it later, that's the worst advice I have heard. A lot of those low price parts have horrible ratings FOR A REASON. In the end, it's your money, do what you want but...

One thing you are right about, the PS is absolutely the last thing you want to cheap out on as it can fry the whole shebang. On that, we agree.

JackLickinsaw 5 points 1 month ago

This will be my first time going to build a pc. Does this build have a guide I can follow? I'm trying to make sure I don't mess this up.

GatitoProgramador 18 points 1 month ago

The Verge had a video but they took it down. giggles

Sorry. Linus Tech, Pau's Hardware, Bitwit. They all have several videos.

trevb0t 8 points 1 month ago

Don't forget Jay's Two Cents!

StBr3ndan 2 points 28 days ago

Team Jay!

SychicMind 1 Build 7 points 1 month ago

Who's pau?

ASilentSloth 1 point 1 month ago

They meant Paul. So "Paul's Hardware"

SychicMind 1 Build 5 points 1 month ago

it was a joke lol

GreenDragon45 -3 points 1 month ago

wooosh

ImApparentlyHuman 2 points 1 month ago

make sure to read the manual your motherboard comes with

trevb0t 1 point 1 month ago

The popular PC Youtubers all have build videos you'll find very helpful. It really is a pretty simple process these days!

SrDoritos29 1 point 1 month ago

u can simply look up youtube like i did

Shmabu 1 point 9 days ago

Just follow a general youtube PC building guide they should be able to help

Hussein.H -3 points 1 month ago

If you get very frustrated very easily, like me, you could see if a local PC repair store or boutique is willing to build it for you. They will charge you, but not crazy prices, and if they do the Windows install as well, it should be much better in the long run. I always come across something stupid in the install process and I've had recurring errors with my DIY custom PC, making it even more annoying.

ReG-Gunner.YT 5 points 1 month ago

So will this build run around 100 frames while streaming R6S and Fortnite ETC?

foxxyman 2 points 1 month ago

maybe not 100 frames while streaming, but maybe if you are not streaming... you might get closer to like 70 fps

strecker90 1 point 23 days ago

I have almost the exact same build, just a zen 5 2600 with wraith stealth cooler, different case (Apevia X-Hermes Bl), Team L5 Lite 480Gb ssd, 2TB Seagate barracuda, Zotac RTX 2060 AMP (Twin Fan was sold out but for $20 more I feel i got a better card). I stream and usually get around 100FPS depending on settings in game. I am no PC expert and probably missed out on some good deals or alternatives but I am happy with the way this build came out.

biggkenny 2 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't the Wraith Spire cooler that comes with the 2600x be completely adequate? My thought is that you would surely be choosing between (the 2600 (non x) AND a cooler) OR (the 2600x WITHOUT a cooler)? Wouldn't these get basically the same performance but be cheaper?

iruel 2 points 1 month ago

I just did almost this exact build in October. I didn't order the cooler at the time but ordered it in January. The I found the stock one couldn't keep up under max load situations like encoding video. I later noticed that the default fan curve in the bios was not letting the fan spin up 100% so I may have been okay with the stock one after altering the curve But the 212 black is significantly better

totbot57 2 points 1 month ago

When you say the 212 black is better, can you expand? How is it better in terms of end user experience please? What happens to the machine if the fan can't keep up, will it crash or are will it automatically throttle back performance?

Deadlyss 1 point 1 month ago

It will throttle back performance if it gets to hot, and if that doesn't work it will crash.

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

^^^ it starts lowering Voltage and CPU load once it reaches around 80-85C to lower temperatures and if it exceeds that it will force shutdown due to overheating

biggkenny 1 point 1 month ago

The cooler is quite a bit better, but the CPU isn't much better (X vs non X) if you have a good cooler.

iruel 2 points 1 month ago

I just did this build a few months ago. I kept my corsair hx750i psu and msi Rx480 8gb and antec p280 from before though. I managed to get my ryzen 5 2600x for $230 CAD on amazon at the time. It's been really awesome. A huge leap from my i5 4570

james.castonguay86 1 point 1 month ago

Hoping to get your input. Like you, I plan on keeping my Corsair 650 and my MSI RX 480 8gb from my current PC and build something along these lines (maybe wait for next gen Ryzen CPU, not sure). How's the GPU performance with this build? Anything else you would change in this build? 2700x?

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

You're fine with your RX 480 for 1080p-1440p gaming. The 2600X is a good match for it.

acelenny 2 points 1 month ago

Very nice looking compute. I was wondering how this compares performance wise to the Intel version for both gaming and other tasks. From what I have seen, the intel should be slightly better for pure gaming but this amd setup should be a better all rounder, is that true?

markker2992 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

It's true but at the same time it's rare to see it much with a gpu at this level. Also an adaptive sync display will negate most of anything you'd ever notice and is just so worth it. I think the am4 platform is more future proof and you get a more versatile build.

FancySnancy 2 points 1 month ago

Ryzen has better Motherboard support, and at max i've seen a 5 frame difference (average of 1-3) between intel and AMD, but a noticable cost difference

bcode90 2 points 1 month ago

I'm brand new to the pc world, so I was wondering if I get this build could I hook it up to my 55" 4k tv in my living room and sync an xbox controller and play pc games that way?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

yes

europanoob 2 points 1 month ago

Pro4 mobo is garbage. Get msi mortar B450(m) for its vrm, design and bios features. Ssd is trash, Samsung evo 860 is the boardeline, better yet, give 20£ more for a Samsung 970 evo. Ram is okayish for the price.

eesti 0 points 1 month ago

assuming you can even get a mortar, and good SSDs for cheaper like the L5 Lite 3D, the WD Blue, and the MX500 exist

Soul007 2 points 1 month ago

is this build recomendable and would it be able to play halo mcc with decent Frames?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

yes

Maxechos 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

Good build. But for a few bucks more. Still under 1100 you can build a ryzen 2600x with a rtx 2070. You’ll have less storage because instead of a 980ssd just do a 128 m.2 pcie SSD as a boot drive and a 2TB HDD for storage.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YK6Xw6

If you want to save money just downgrade to a Ryzen 2600. Wont be much but still will be effective. The stock cpu cooler should be fine. But you can get a air cooler for cheap. So no worries there.

ImADecoy 2 points 8 days ago

RTX 2070 is one of the worst products on the market right now. 11% faster than the RTX 2060 for over 40% more money. Do not follow this advice.

RainbowSpear 2 points 1 month ago

I'm completely new to building PCs, and don't know anything about computing and electronics. My old Macbook is close to death (like, near-unplayable framerate drops on DS3 on 800x600 and lowest settings) and since I rarely need to do stuff on the move anymore I've been thinking about getting a gaming PC rather than a gaming laptop. Better value, more power and more futureproof/upgradable.

This might be a silly question, but would this be able to run Monster Hunter World, Dark Souls 3, F1 2017, Street Fighter V, GTA V and Dota 2 on high settings with good framerates?

Those are the games I'll be playing the most. Aside from this it'll be for work. :)

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

pretty good framerates, at least above 60

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

All of those should easily be 100 fps+ at 1080p Ultra with this build.

Kirizame 2 points 1 month ago

New to the PC scene, would this be a good beginner build?

ItsGabeAgain 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, I'd say that this is a really good mid-range beginner build.

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

A bit excessive on graphics if you're only running 1080p.

UbaAmaze 2 points 28 days ago

Great List! But, I recommend at least 3200Mhz ram for Ryzen as it runs better with higher clock speeds

L115847 2 points 27 days ago

Thank you~! I am 60 years old and building a Gaming System for my son as a Birthday present. I registered here like the person below to say Thank you and let you know you have made an old mans PC build much easier. Be well ThoughtA, John

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 27 days ago

That's fantastic to know! Thank you so much for the kind words, and I hope the PC build turns out great! If you'd like, a Completed Build would be very welcome after it's all finished.

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L115847 2 points 26 days ago

Should have mentioned I spent hours looking at every component of this Build and researching each as I am learning. When I completed all the comparing and contrasting - this build is truly solid. I began ordering parts yesterday and will post the completed build. Great work on this one, it's simply an excellent value proposition.

zkall 2 points 24 days ago

Hey, I am transitioning from a PS4 to a gaming pc for fortnite, would this build be able to run at 144 frames per second and have obs open while streaming. Thank you so, so much for the build.

micklealpha -1 points 12 days ago

you don't need a whole lot for fortnite, just get an i7-8700K instead of the 2600 and a Z390 motherboard

DJcspaz 2 points 13 days ago

Would the GeForce RTX 2060 gaming z be compatible with this setup?

micklealpha 2 points 12 days ago

yeah

Squadkills 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Was wondering, will a r5 2600 be a good replacement for the 2600x?

JT817 3 points 1 month ago

Yes.

Chaos_098 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, there is no problem running a regular 2600 over the 2600x. You can overclock both as well.

In essence the 2600x is a marginally boosted 2600.

tsenjin 1 point 1 month ago

The 2600 actually OC's better than the X.

Deadlyss 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, the only difference is 2600X are binned by AMD

trevb0t 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah, absolutely. For the minute performance boost, you could (probably) find a better way to spend that $30 difference.

Squadkills 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Yea I guess i might’ve spent it well idk just posted my build with it lol

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h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 1 month ago

I didn't think that you could have an AMD CPU but also an Intel GPU? Can someone explain please?

PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

Do you mean Nvidia GPU?

Anyhow, any Intel or AMD processor can be used alongside any Nvidia or AMD graphics card.

h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 1 month ago

Whoops yes I meant Nvidia. I don't know why I said Intel xD

NTTCY 1 point 28 days ago

You can have AMD CPU with Nvidia GPU. CPU's and GPU's aren't locked like that.

You can also have an AMD CPU with an INTEL GPU(but those aren't out yet)

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

you can have whatever CPU with what ever GPU you want with no issues

NecoUhgr -1 points 1 month ago

I think you’re getting mixed up. Nvidea is not intel

JoshSh 6 points 1 month ago

I think you’re getting mixed up. Nvidea is not Nvidia.

h0pT0_Gaming 3 points 1 month ago

I know that.

Anderson233 1 point 1 month ago

Sorry I know this may be a dumb question but could I swap the 2060 for a 1070?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The RTX 2060 has a better NVENC encoder for streaming, but if you find a good used deal the GTX 1070 works too

Today 2 points 1 month ago

Or save the money on the GPU, buy a used cheaper card and put the money toward a 2700x and stream with x264.

Max_Dota2 1 point 1 month ago

I'm planning to buy this build and was wondering if you had any recommendations on a gaming monitor to go with it? I'll be playing Dota2 with this for 95% of the time and was looking to spend around $200-300. (probably 144hz or higher) 24-27''

Thanks for your input (it's going to be my first ever own built computer)

EnergeticTk 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Look for the msi mag241c, it has 144hz an VA panel, it's curved, has Vesa mount option, built in headphone hanger, an USB hub with a hdmi and dp imput. It also has a 27" version.

PartPickingYoutube 1 point 1 month ago

Personally I think it's better going for the R5 2600 because the only difference between it and the X model is 200 Mhz of extra base clock and the wraith spire stock cooler instead of the wraith stealth. I don't think it's worth an extra $60 or however much the extra price is. You can over clock it afterwards anyways.

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

i've seen the price difference be as low as 20-25 dollars,

Squadkills 1 Build 1 point 17 days ago

26 days later it has been seen at a $10 difference lol

GatitoProgramador 1 point 1 month ago

Edited this list to add a Ryzen 7 and an RTX 2070 (Total: $1136.52 ) https://pcpartpicker.com/user/GatitoProgramador/saved/#view=k8m6sY

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

RTX 2070 has awful value and the R7 2700 will offer little for gaming and must be overclocked to match the 2600X.

Freemen 1 point 1 month ago

Can me overclock it even more?

SpaghettioDeVito 1 point 1 month ago

If you wanted to go further you would need a liquid cooler.

SamuraiGlyph 1 point 1 month ago

Jeez dude, RAM prices have really gotten good lately. Shame I bought my 16gb kit for £120 for a Black Friday "deal".

AdamL10 1 point 1 month ago

I’m a complete beginner and I know nothing about computers. I’ve wanted a pc for a while now and I’ve just started looking for parts. Is this one good and relatively cheap compared to others? Anything is helpful.

trevb0t 2 points 1 month ago

Generally speaking, you could certainly build a gaming pc that won't struggle under load for less than this. This PC includes a very powerful, new generation of NVIDEA graphics card which is built around overclocking, which for MOST computing needs would be fairly excessive, and drives the price way up.

With some smart part changes to fit your specific needs, you could build with a similarly powerful CPU, a mid ranged GPU like the RX 570 or 580, etc for about $700-800.

sgtcoffman 1 point 1 month ago

That all depends on what you want to do and what games you want to play. This PC is going to be very good at a lot of things, but a more budget PC could be built fairly easily for a couple hundred dollars less. Baseline though, it all depends on what you want to do with it. I'm not exactly an expert, but i'm sure if you have more questions that I can at least point you in the right direction or someone else here with more knowledge can more fully answer your questions.

lloydcrozier 1 point 1 month ago

Will i need to purchase additional fans for this case?

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

a fan for the front might be helpful

MapleSyrpMaster 1 point 1 month ago

on the list, it says that the rtx 2060 is 143 dollars but when I click on the buy link it takes me to Amazon and its $500!? anybody know what up with that?

trevb0t 1 point 1 month ago

It's probably still technically listed on amazon somewhere, which is a dead page that redirects to an updated one. Also it could take the used&new section into account?

zkartje 1 point 1 month ago

That's strange. A new RTX 2060 will be priced no where near $143. However, $500 sounds too expensive as well. Right now they go for $300-400

traegerh 1 point 1 month ago

Just wondering (this is my first time building) does having an Intel or AMD CPU matter?

Deadlyss 2 points 1 month ago

imo no

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

AMD CPUs are cheaper, while Intel CPUs have good single core performance

Millillion 2 points 1 month ago

Not strictly. Some things run better on one or the other just like some things run better on either AMD or Nvidia graphics cards, but those things aren't very common.

trevb0t 1 point 1 month ago

Historically AMD has never been able to match the longevity of Intel. That said, the Ryzen series has most long term Intel fans taking a second look... You can get a lot of bang for a much smaller buck with the Ryzen series.

I personally think on the lower end, you're even better off with Ryzen. A core i3 that matches R3 2200G in performance costs at least twice the latter.

saltymat 1 point 1 month ago

IS a gold 550 watt good enough for a rtx 2070 without overclocking?

Millillion 1 point 1 month ago

It should be as long as the PSU is good quality.

saltymat 1 point 1 month ago

thx

Millillion 1 point 1 month ago

Have you taken a look at the Arctic Freezer 34 Esports CPU coolers? I think they would be a good alternative for the Hyper 212 should an alternative be desired. The dual fan models retail for $40 and perform above their price range in both temperatures and noise while looking attractive in 4 color options.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

That's a great suggestion, thanks!

progmanpaul 1 point 1 month ago

Noctua also makes great CPU and Case fans - quiet and effective for the price.

Millillion 1 point 1 month ago

True they make pretty much the best, but none that compete with either the Hyper 212 series or Arctic Freezer 33/34 in both price and performance at the same time.

ReG-Gunner.YT 1 point 1 month ago

So, I have a Question. How many Frames does this Run 1920x1080 on games such as, Fortnite and Rainbow 6 siege?

trevb0t 2 points 1 month ago

You could achieve 60 FPS on Fortnite with a potato. That said this would be well over 100+

ReG-Gunner.YT 1 point 1 month ago

welp time to go buy a potato

SpaghettioDeVito 1 point 1 month ago

funny because my old potato couldn´t.

zkartje 2 points 1 month ago

This system should both of those games great at 1080p. I'm guessing here- around 100-150 fps at high/ultra settings.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

enough

ReG-Gunner.YT 1 point 1 month ago

Lol ok thanks. What about the Intel?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

still enough

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

those games aren't super hard to run at ultra, even a 1060 6gb card would be ok

lipzi 1 point 1 month ago
eesti 1 point 1 month ago

No, I would suggest a better PSU, like what they suggest

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

What are you smoking? SeaSonic makes great power supplies.

eesti 1 point 8 days ago

the Seasonic M12II Bronze series is very outdated and shouldn't be used in a modern build, however modern SeaSonic supplies are good

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

You have any other reasoning besides "it's outdated"? It has all the same connectors.

eesti 1 point 7 days ago

it's a 10 year old group regulated PSU, it's not suitable for modern machines

Japi33 1 point 1 month ago

Hi i want to build this set up part by part what do you think i should get like a cheaper one part and just upgrade later ex. Instead of getting a 2600x ill just get 2600 .cause im just scared what if i buy that part and the next day the price drops immediately thanks

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The 2600 is a good alternative to the 2600X

Japi33 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks but i got the 2600x already. How abou the gpu thinking about getting 580 instead of the 2060 is the 200 really worth it

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

If you're gonna drop down, get the 1660Ti instead

zachsmith21605 1 point 1 month ago

Is this worth the pay I am a beginner and I was just wondering if this is worth the money.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

Yes

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

this should run most AAA games at 1080p ultra and some games at 1440p

eesti 1 point 7 days ago

yes

ImADecoy 0 points 8 days ago

"Some games at 1440p"

The RTX 2060 runs all AAA games at 1440p High-Ultra at 60 fps+

micklealpha 1 point 6 days ago

not all AAA games, Rise of the Tomb Raider runs 50-55 average.

shodian95 1 point 1 month ago

I just completed this build for the same pourpose, what do you think? Do you'd change something? https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zbq4fH

Mark_Winters 1 point 14 days ago

looks gr8 man

shodian95 1 point 8 days ago

thanks bro!

puzoen 1 point 1 month ago

I'm planning to build this and I was wondering; if I switch out the motherboard, memory, and SSD to a MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4, G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory and ADATA - Ultimate SU800 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive, would I have any problems? Also, would I need case fans? (First time building a pc, friend is helping me build it though). I already bought the case, and I'm very excited!

puzoen 1 point 1 month ago

Also planning to switch out the CPU Cooler for a Cooler Master - Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM.

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

it should be fine, the memory will make your cpu scale better than the 3000mhz ram on this guide

MartenVr 1 point 1 month ago

I would recomment a 1660 gpu instead of a 2060

_SquishSquash 1 point 1 month ago

May I ask why?

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

probly because it's cheaper i guess

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

you can get the 2060 for a similar price

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

No, you can't.

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

It's actually good advice if you're only playing at 1080p.

Purtyboi 1 point 17 days ago

Would a gtx 1660 ti be worth it then the gtx 1660?

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

if your looking at those, get the 1660 ti

Nanotech123 1 point 1 month ago

This seems like an awesome build and I can't wait to build it! However, would it be work switching the build's GPU with this card?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814126284

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

No, if you want a top tier 2060 the MSI Gaming Z is cheaper

Tjguy3409 1 point 1 month ago

What’s another comparable choice for memory, the one picked is out of stock on newegg.

_SquishSquash 1 point 1 month ago

Hey anyone know a good video card replacement I cant seem to find that card anywhere!

zkartje 1 point 1 month ago

Personal opinion but I don't think the new 2000 series RTX cards are worth it right now. If you're looking to save a bit of money I'd go with a GTX1070, 1080, 1080ti, or or the newer 1660ti. This will give you very similar performance or even better in some scenarios.

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

evga black 2060

Myself 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks, I am new to PcPartPicker, and just discovered this build which is very helpful.

I am planning to use the same motherboard and CPU, but found other memory. The memory you currently have in the build (G.Skill Aegis 16 Gb, F4-3000C16D-16GISB) is not in the list of supported memory for the Asrock B450 Pro 4. Would this be an issue ?

Is there any logic for choosing the proper memory for the motherboard ? (it's really hard to find memory which is actually in QVL list of the motherboard)

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

i don't think there is much compatibility problems with ram will say you might have to change the ram settings in the Bios but other then that it's fine

ledge9 1 point 1 month ago

Nice build would've gotten a water cooler for streaming while playing, cause that may be a heavy process! Good luck with your streaming!

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

A good enough air cooler would work just as well if not better, the stock cooler would even probably be enough

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

^^^ especially considering Nvidia's new system where you can offload a majority of the load to the GPU

hagan10 1 point 1 month ago

I would like to use a Freesync monitor... Do you have a recommendation of a comparable Radeon graphics card?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

A Vega 64 is your best bet, but good luck finding one new for a reasonable price

FancySnancy 1 point 1 month ago

^^^ they're usually around 400 dollars which just isn't worth it, along with around double the Watts required

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

nvidia gpus work with freesync now, look up a tutorial on how to make it work as it is different

FancySnancy 1 point 12 days ago

not all of them work that well though D:

Vovical 1 point 1 month ago

Nice build, very balanced and makes the most out of the budget, especially seeing it features a 3tb hdd and 960gb ssd. With a 144hz monitor for around $200, this could make a great streaming setup.

Sir_Gilman 1 point 1 month ago

Hey guys, can i change the gpu for a Rtx2080 with no problem to the rest of the parts? What could you say are the best Rtx2080 models? I'm building my first pc but i want one of the 2080 models so i don't have to change it in like 4 years. Thanks in advance

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

If you want an RTX 2080, I would go with the Excellent Build Guide

Sir_Gilman 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks for the reply! Mostly i'm asking because there is a sale in a store where i live and the difference between a 2070 and a 2080 is like a 100 bucks, but i wanted to know if this parts work well with because of the price difference between this build and the excellent build guide

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

There wouldn't be a huge cpu bottleneck

Sir_Gilman 1 point 1 month ago

Ok then ,i will keep checking some things but i think i will take your advice of going with the excellent build (i had confused it with the highest one) thanks for the help! One last question, is there much difference in the different 2080 models? I find reviews that contradict with other ones and so on. Are the turing ones worth the extra cost?

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

Turing is the codename for the 16/20 series as a whole

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

You're not going to save any money by futureproofing. You'll spend less money and get more performance by upgrading the GPU down the line.

weirdboywithshotgun 1 point 1 month ago

Would it be good enough for VR?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

yes

Neratex 1 point 1 month ago

thanks man! Was looking for a white now <3

SexualPresence 1 point 1 month ago

I put together a build roughly similar to this however my Screen appears to freeze when I stream and have League of Legends playing at the same time. I don't have any other programs running in the background any advice? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cyhXr6 My power supply is the Microcenter (PowerSpec) IPSG 650W 80+ Bronze its not on PCpartpicker list.

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

Sounds like the stream settings need work.

Jnorman2123 1 point 1 month ago

If i can get an amd Ryzen 5 1600 for 80$ would it be better value or would it be better to stick with the 2600x?

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

for $80 I would go for it and then buy a good cooler to overclock it

Crayder 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

Honestly with this build I think I'd go for a Ryzen 5 1500X to keep it within it's parameters. The 1500X is way cheaper and just about as consistent for this build as the 2600X. If this guide is for a basic gaming set up that'd be my recommendation, the 1500X kicks *** for what it is. If not the 1500X, I recommend the 2700 or the 2700X over the 2600X, easy comparison in my opinion for not-so-different pricing.

eesti 3 points 1 month ago

The 1500X only has four cores, so streaming is out of the question, and the 2700(X) are slower in single threaded tasks

HeckU123 1 point 1 month ago

This is just the mid-range build that paul's hardware did in their how to build a gaming pc in 2019 video

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

well it's a good configuration, so great minds think alike, I guess ;)

Blueo 1 point 1 month ago

I followed this guide but tweaked it, a bit, i'm just wondering if you guys think its good. (my max budget is 2k CDN) https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/n6hngw This is my first build ever, I knew about building PC's for a long time now, and really wanted to build one, but never knew how, until now (I watched A LOT of videos). I'm a console peasant who never experienced real PC gaming, I played on an old IMac but that's crap. I have never in my life seen 30+ frames at, at-least medium settings. Thanks in advance.

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

get the trident z rgb 16gb 3200mhz kit it is faster, better looking, and about the same price depending on where you look

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

Would not use WiFi if at all possible. Especially with a cheap USB adapter.

Blueo 1 point 8 days ago

I won't, I updated my build to include a motherboard with WiFi and better everything, but also had to increase my budget, i don't plan on increasing it anymore. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZVT4bX what do you think?

matthewwind 1 point 1 month ago

Why motherboard pick b450 not x470? What different

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The extras X470 provide aren't worth the money in this case

Akira282 1 point 1 month ago

Why not just use cloud storage for games, etc instead of using local storage. The 1TB should be enough for local no?

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

Storage speed can actually affect things like game loading times and such, and besides, what if you don't trust the cloud with all of your personal data

Akira282 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks for your thoughts. Makes sense for games, but I mean the way steam works is all the setup files are on the cloud. Install only the games you need to play locally. Then uninstall. Can't you use a private cloud though in case you don't want it on the public cloud?

eesti 0 points 1 month ago

The cloud is just another computer

Tjguy3409 1 point 1 month ago

Tried to build this today, can’t get it to start up. Fans and lights come on but won’t boot. First time builder but have friend that was helping me that has experience building PCs. He’s thinking it is a bad motherboard, trying not to get discouraged.

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

where did you plug your display cable in

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

Probably a loose/forgotten power connection for the motherboard or CPU, or even graphics card.

Wisestguy 1 point 1 month ago

That's a pretty good build in a nice case. I just put together a Gaming/Streaming [encoding] build. Here's a list that's close: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Wisestguy/saved/Xt2tgs

If you use StoreMI, you'll get massively better performance from a 256GB nvme than your SSD without any drawbacks. Just be sure to install the OS on the hard drive, not the SSD before you turn on StoreMI.

This motherboard has wifi, and lots of features. The only place it's lacking is memory slots and fan headers. I added a splitter for the exhaust fans and I used only 1 DIMM to allow for future expansion (another 16GB).

The Wraith Prizm cooler is enough for normal use. Overclocking isn't necessary with the 2700x. My single cores boost up to 4.6GHz on their own, and it engages all 16 threads at 3.92GHz when I encode video. Temps stay between 74 and 80C.

In order to almost match your $, I trimmed the GPU by one point (https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html) and saved $70. But I was able to improve the CPU (by 2 cores) and SSD (Sata vs nvme).

In fact, my build costs more because of the additional case fans. What additional fans does the Phanteks case need?

Thoughts?

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

SSD caching does not offer comparable performance to an actual SSD. The difference between SATA and M.2 is minimal in real world tests.

WiFi is generally unimportant on a motherboard as you should be using ethernet whenever possible. It is a very bad idea to only use one DIMM of memory as you don't get dual channel bandwidth.

No 2700X boosts up to 4.6 GHz. The limit for XFR is around 4.3 GHz.

I do however salute the choice of the Vega 56, even if it falls behind in poorly optimized titles. It's not very good for GPU stream encoding though. You'll be forced to do CPU encoding which sort of nullifies any bonus of the extra 2 CPU cores.

Benja_1223 1 point 1 month ago

I'm very new to the PC Building Scene and ask myself if this: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Benja_1223/saved/s7m4qs Is a good build to start. For me (I live in Germany) it will cost around 600€ with buying Windows 10 afterwards. So what do you think I should change or just buy it like it is. I dont know if this is a good or a bad build. My first own build btw. Thanks.

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

this would be an okay starter build

lachiu 1 point 1 month ago

You can't stream at decent quality with a 2600X at 720p using H.264. NVenc isn't comparable with H.264.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

H.264 isn't one all-compassing quality, hence the qualification of what encoding speed it is comparable to.

Viargentum 1 point 1 month ago

Would this build work for a just gaming computer (as in not streaming or recording) or are there optimizations I should remove and add improvements in other areas if I want to use it as a general gaming computer?

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

this is a pretty solid gaming computer, just needs slightly faster ram

ml3rouxx 1 point 1 month ago

I just did this build but made a couple small changes. I dropped the 1TB HDD, and the dedicated graphics. (I'm using it for music production not gaming.) I also added a nvme m.2 pcie. I put it together, powered it up and all I get is fans and lights. No display on the monitors and no POST beeps. I then found out the Ryzen 5 2600x doesn't support onboard graphics so I added a zotac 1050 GPU. Still no display or post beeps. Even if I remove the RAM I get no beep codes. PSU has been tested and is good. So I'm thinking either the motherboard is faulty or when I tried to boot with only onboard graphics is it possible I damaged the CPU? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Wisestguy 1 point 1 month ago

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/perform-these-steps-before-posting-about-post-boot-no-video-problems.1285536/

It sounds like one of your power cables isn't seated fully, or the memory isn't seated. Also, you may not have a speaker to make the "beeps".

straubdba 1 point 1 month ago

Case comes with one fan. Is there a need for more in the front?

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

maybe one in the front, would reccomend nzxt or noctua if you don't want rgb

Its_Ghosty 1 point 1 month ago

Would I be better using a G-Sync or a free sync monitor with this setup?

Grafiti 1 point 26 days ago

gsync

BlameScott 1 point 29 days ago

This is a good build but for a little over $100 more you can get an X470 board a 650W PSU a better heatsink 2 140mm case fans and a better case. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ybXcD2

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

None of those add performance. Effectively a waste.

CP508 1 point 28 days ago

Thanks for the build! I slightly modified it for what's cheapest in my country (https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GPPrbX). Any changes I should make before I order? (slightly worried RAM and motherboard are incompatible) :))

ThatFlameMan 1 point 28 days ago

case fans?

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

get one or two for the front

itsnbzl 1 point 28 days ago

Is there anyway I can get RGB for this PC?

Grafiti 1 point 26 days ago

yes with more money

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

some simple rgb fans or memory should light it up enough

neogrimjaw 1 point 27 days ago

Great build, i also try build my own but i don't know if its good for gaming+working (sketch Up, Adobe soft, game maker, etc).

Build 1

  • Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler
  • MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
  • Zotac GTX 1660 Ti Twin Fan Graphic Card
  • Kingston Hyper X Fury 3200 MHz 2 x 8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM
  • Samsung 860 Evo 500gb SSD
  • WD 1TB Bue HDD 7200RPM
  • FSP Hyper K 600W 80 Plus
  • Deepcool Earlkase Case

or

  • Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler
  • MSI X470 Gaming Plus Motherboard
  • Zotac GTX 2070 Graphic Card
  • Kingston Hyper X Fury 3200 MHz 2 x 8GB (16GB) DDR4 RAM
  • XPG SX8200 Pro256GB M.2 NVME SSD
  • WD 1TB Bue HDD 7200RPM
  • FSP Hyper K 600W 80 Plus
  • Deepcool Earlkase Case

My friend said just use B450 then X470, but i research that Ryzen 5 2600 suit better with X470. If i chose Build 1, i should change the SSD to NVME SSD and do i need extra cooling fan? My room temperature can goes to 28 Celsius.

If i chose Build 2, do i need increase the PSU to 750W? since 2070 was power card they said.

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

the 2070 will give better performance, but you will need a 650W power supply

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

The 2070 is a waste of money, and honestly you'd be better off with a 2600X and B450 than the 2600 with X470.

Juptian 1 point 27 days ago

How are the temps/airflow? Only one case fan's gotta keep it semi-warm in there right?

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

get more case fans for better temps

Grafiti 1 point 26 days ago

I've built something similar but with peripherals. thoughts??? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hzbNbX

L115847 2 points 25 days ago

Curious as to why you choose the 1060. The CPU Cooler here comes within 2-3 degrees C of Liquid Cooler, is extremely well received and is much less. It appears you are concerned with heat, as your fan cont is up there? Samsung had a nice SSD's for $75 with plenty of room.

Okno13 1 point 24 days ago

2060 has pretty bad price-to-performance, but still a good guide. Thanks for making it!

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

not really, for 350-450 you get very good 1080p, and ok 1440p

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

It's overkill for 1080p in most games.

micklealpha 1 point 6 days ago

thats what i mean by very good.

L3gen6ary 1 point 24 days ago

I was thinking about getting into streaming and this guide was EXACTLY what I needed. It fits perfectly in my budget aswell! Thank you soooo much for the guide!

Ridley8819 6 Builds 1 point 24 days ago

I'd always prefer the 1600 > any 2600 as you can Overclock it to the same Power + it comes with a way cheaper and a better cooler. The 2600 has maybe 3% more power at 20% higher costs.

moxyfied 1 point 23 days ago

What would you suggest i cut down on so i could add a ElGato hd60 pro internal for the same price/max budget of $1000?

eesti 2 points 16 days ago

I would suggest cutting down some lawns for extra money, for the best experience

perlij 1 point 23 days ago

If you see this can you please tell me if all the parts fit together well

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

it will

perlij 1 point 23 days ago

Do all the parts fit

eesti 1 point 16 days ago

yes

careerraindrop 1 point 22 days ago
micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

get an h100i or h110i, and get a 2060 or a 2070

Newtothisstuff413 1 point 20 days ago

I’m looking to build my first gaming PC. I played Xbox for years, I’m currently in college for IT and looking to build either this or the https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/d77Ycf/great-intel-gamingstreaming-build. Can someone please help me decide which one will be better for me?

Newtothisstuff413 1 point 19 days ago

how is this compared to the intel build? i am looking to build first computer

DesktopBuilder1991 1 point 19 days ago

Can I install an internal Blu-Ray Burner in this tower?

eesti 1 point 16 days ago

no

Purtyboi 1 point 18 days ago

I put together a similar list, but changed a couple things, regarding the SSD, 1tb is an over kill and some people said that it can crash easily, so I switched it with a Kingston 240gb,(latter on I can upgrade). Just like the ram, I replaced it with a more reliable product.i changed the psu with a cheaper corsair power supply to save some cash just like the cpu cooler and with that Extra cash I upgraded the rtx 2060 in the build, to a rtx 2070. Over all coming to 40$ more, but a better graphics card. I’m not all that good with computers so please don’t think of my has a surpreme god a building computer virtually. But the only thing I’m concerned is with the motherboard. But I know it’s a popular choice. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hy6dRJ

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

get a 650w power supply

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

RTX 2070 is a waste. Only 11% more performance than the 2060. If you game at 1080p you'll never even see a difference.

Purtyboi 1 point 3 days ago

Actually what about the rx 580? In my country it’s cheaper then the 1060 and it has more vram. I don’t know about the performance though

Tpot04 1 point 18 days ago

I know nothing about computers, at all. Does this run awesome with Rainbow Six Siege and common BR's? I'm really only interested in FPS, and potentially streaming in the future.

eesti 1 point 17 days ago

yes

King0725 1 point 17 days ago

hello! Can you give me advice on this System Build

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/King0725/saved/B4QCbv

Rasbir16 1 point 16 days ago

bleed red

Legitlikespc 1 point 16 days ago

So it’s okay to have a 550W psu in this build? Like it won’t blow up?

eesti 1 point 7 days ago

as long as it's a good one, yes

nantesfran 1 point 15 days ago

hey. as i am pretty happy with the config and the price, two quick questions: a.) could i easily upgrade to 32gb of RAM without an issue and b.) is there anyway to guesstimate the approximate max fps for wow on ultra settings ((in raid preferably)) - as it is my main game to play. thank you in advance - if anyone could help!

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

this will be fine for wow

speedycheese 1 point 15 days ago

What's a good video to watch for how to install all this. I've never built a full computer. Just changed the graphics card and power source.

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

austin evans recently released a new guide

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

Bitwit made a good how to guide.

Northonegamer 1 point 14 days ago

For gaming and streaming I would of opted for the Ryzen 7 CPU.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

Eh. If you are on a budget the 2600X will cut it. But yeah if you have the money lying around the r7 would technically be better...

Nikita_Rodov 1 point 13 days ago

I've looked at both versions of this build (Intel and Ryzen), but I don't know which is better. I'm primarily trying to play games like r6, rust, metro exodus, along with other ones that are easier to run than those aforementioned. Ryzen is more affordable, but I dont know if I should prioritize that over intel's quality. I've modified the intel build, which im linking here: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Nikita_Rodov/saved/PZJzYJ should I switch to ryzen?

micklealpha 1 point 12 days ago

look at youtube channels like jayztwocents or pauls hardware, and decide from there

dgibbs7041 3 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

I thought the price of this was bananas and wasn't sure how you could make a system like this at that price, but then I noticed you didn't include the cost of monitor, keys, and mouse (speakers are nice too). I also tend to include the cost of a legit OS in my builds, especially when I'm building for someone else. I got a dud key one time, and it was annoying and it made me look like a chump; I don't need that when I'm on a job.

zepharus 1 point 1 day ago

Any respectable streamer/gamers has many peripherals and such. If you're gonna bag on this point perhaps a canned ibuypower system from best buy is more to your liking with generic parts?

yipyiphurray 1 point 10 days ago

Hello, first time builder here. First off, I just wanted to say you're a legend for all the builds you put out. And your explanations alone in the guide really helped me understand what it was I needed or didn't need as a first time builder.

I just had a question (or a few) :

  1. Overclocking. Recommended with this build? If so, what should I overclock it to and what is the best way to overclock?
Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

The 2600X already comes pre overclocked from the factory. If you want you can get the cheaper 2600 and overclock that one to match the 2600X. If you want to OC woth the 2600 I suggest you keep the cooler of this list since the one of the 2600 doesnt really cut overclocks. I suggest to look up guides on youtube on how to overclock.

cjflyer 1 point 9 days ago

Does this build need additional software or once I put it together with these parts is it ready to go?

eesti 2 points 6 days ago

You need an operating system

Icy_Vibesss 1 point 8 days ago

Lol good setup gonna switch the processor and use it!

khankhattak 1 point 7 days ago

great built but buying a monitor and peripherals will cost around 1500$

Mr.Sniff 1 point 5 days ago

I'm pretty new, but I have made some edits from what I know but can it play rainbow six siege

Namix 1 point 5 days ago

Hello, I have some questions . When I check the ram for this build, G.SKILL Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Intel Z170 Platform Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-3000C16D-16GISB. It's said that it's only for Intel Platform. Can it also run on AMD platform?

Tydox 1 point 4 days ago

This is a terrible build, beware! Terrible components and selection may be pretty looking but it is useless!

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 4 days ago

Feedback is very much welcome, but please keep it constructive. For example, what would you like to see different?

zepharus 1 point 1 day ago

Troll? these are great components

EclipzeAB 1 point 4 days ago

Maybe the Gold Certified PSU isn't necessary especially for me when I'm going to uni that has all my electricity paid for, maybe I'll upgrade after lmao.

L115847 1 point 3 days ago

Well.... after completing the system... guess what... https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100 A very HUGE BUMMER!!!

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 3 days ago

I'm not sure I follow. That article is about 300-series motherboards. This guide uses 400-series motherboards.

zepharus 1 point 1 day ago

?? bruh 300 series

Deadprez100vs 1 point 2 days ago

Would this build be fine? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z8tvMZ

Zoltalicious 0 points 1 month ago

IMHO, I'd drop a RZ 7 1700 in this, the 1700 is $169 on Newegg atm, and its base price is $179 on Newegg. The R5 2600x is less performance for more $, at $199. It's a no brainer.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The 2600X is faster in single threaded tasks

Zoltalicious 1 point 1 month ago

Maybe so, but more cores will last longer and many new games are making use of 6+ cores. If AAA gaming isn't someone's thing, then I can see the point.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

If the focus is gaming, the 2600(X) is the best choice

Purtyboi 1 point 17 days ago

Thanks

Sketchy13 0 points 1 month ago

slightly creeped out at the fact this is almost identical to one of my part lists... https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nr89mq

Purtyboi 1 point 17 days ago

Damn, that’s sketchy

Kieranjohnillsley 0 points 25 days ago

I'm assuming no one likes Vega's then because not one of these builds use them

eesti 1 point 16 days ago

Finding one is pretty hard

ImADecoy 1 point 8 days ago

They tend to be overpriced most of the time. Fine to use one if you snag a deal.

jijonagaroor 0 points 17 days ago

I have a few issues with this build.

  1. Amazon prices are way too overpriced. You can get much better prices on newegg india.
  2. Where is the PSU.
  3. For the motherboard, its better to pair an X470 Board with Ryzen 2600 and above. its more feature complete and will be better future proof.
  4. The case is too overpriced for the build, you get better ones under 10K.
  5. Newegg has better prices. its cost effective especially for GPU's. i can get a 2070 on newegg for 44000.
eesti 1 point 17 days ago

This build is optimized for US/EU/AU markets, which explains the part selection, and PCPP doesn't have Newegg India as far as I can tell

twannus 0 points 8 days ago

What do you think of this one? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PQjNMZ Is it good enough to run games on high quality?

micklealpha 1 point 6 days ago

you need faster memory for ryzen

Harbuzz 0 points 6 days ago

paying more for the overclocked version of 2600 lmao

yutac 0 points 6 days ago

This GPU does not have dvi port, which some monitors requires to achieve 144hz refresh rate, That port is necessary for competitive gamers as playing on 144hz is real thing, else for casual gamers its perfect.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

Ehm no... Basically all modern Monitors use DisplayPort for 144Hz or even 240Hz.

zepharus 1 point 1 day ago

need to not build your own PC is you're using a DVI port only display. Sorry 2005 called and is looking for you...

yutac 1 point 17 hours ago

the first monitor in the list of monitors here only supports 144hz through DVI port only. There are several others.

_Roller_ -1 points 1 month ago

So when are you guys going to actually put up new build videos and component reviews?

atacocat -1 points 1 month ago

The Ryzen 5 2600 and 2600x are capped @ 2933 Mhz RAM. lol, It's not worth to include 3200 Mhz ram in the parametic filter.

eesti 3 points 1 month ago

They are only capped to 2933 stock, they can still be overclocked to 3200

tooray1313 -1 points 9 days ago

With how this system is i would recommend switching out the standard SSD with an NVME m.2 drive that is smaller. The price is almost the same and they are significantly faster for boot and for loading programs.

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

Nope.. NVME SSDs are more expensive and to be honest the performance difference is not really noticable anyway under normal circumstances..

tooray1313 1 point 4 days ago

Using your price for the SSD here is just for example a 480GB NVME Kingston SSD https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242465&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= Read speed 1500 write 900

Here is a 500 GB standard 2.5 samsung sata SSD https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147674&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= read 550 write 500

Both drives are almost the same size, both are close in price, and both major brands not off brand. It is proven as a boot drive that NVME SSD's are significantly quicker and are much faster for launching games. Oh and both drives were less expensive than the one you listed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9OH7Mf6uKk This video goes in to great detail with the comparisons

Lobsterareawesome 8 Builds 1 point 3 days ago

Which SSD price of mine are you talking about?

TrevorHaut -2 points 1 month ago

Probably should change this to the 1660 TI now

eesti 0 points 1 month ago

Why? It's a different tier of GPU, and literally worse performing

TrevorHaut -1 points 1 month ago

Seeing how modest build is suggesting a rx 580 and excellent is at a rtx 2070 I think that the GTX 1660 TI at $280 offers a better midpoint since the RTX features wont likely be taken advantage of with a 6GB card

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

Personally, I think the 1660 Ti is more suited for the 'Modest' build because of its pricepoint

maddog62 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

I disagree since streaming is one of the use cases. Without the need for that, changing to the 1660TI is a no-brainer and reduce the price to the magic $1K figure.

THEJELLYROLLS -2 points 13 days ago

Console pc pleb lmao i speak rich NOT POOR

eesti 1 point 7 days ago

what is the point of this?

loganbell2355 -3 points 1 month ago

this build guide is sad compared to dis.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/loganbell2355/saved/twPRJx

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

That build has way too many problems

loganbell2355 -1 points 1 month ago

thats the point

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

no the build you posted

loganbell2355 -2 points 1 month ago

i know that was the poInt

i fixed it anyway

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/loganbell2355/saved/twPRJx

eesti 0 points 1 month ago

Still iffy, especially with the PSU

Purtyboi 1 point 17 days ago

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eesti 1 point 16 days ago

but why do you want to run 1070 sli?

HectorKirsch 1 point 15 days ago

Oh it was just a showcase

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PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah, it's decent. The difference between a fast SSD and a slow SSD is usually only milliseconds apart, so you should just go for whichever is cheapest and has the storage you need.

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PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

I wouldn't be worried if I were you, to say the least.

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PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

7200 RPM, I think. I don't know much about HDDs, but from what I've seen on here, 5400 RPM is usually recommended as a quieter option.

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor 11W - 95W
Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler 5W - 10W
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 14W
Silicon Power - A55 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Seagate - Constellation ES.2 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB OC Video Card 40W - 160W
Total: 309W