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Entry Level Intel Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

Description

CPU

Our CPU of choice is the Intel Core i3-8100. This quad-core CPU will run games like Fortnite, Rainbow Six Siege, and CSGO without issue. It includes a stock cooler, so a 3rd-party cooler isn't necessary.

Motherboard

We're using a parametric filter to constantly select the best-priced mATX motherboard while meeting selected criteria. In this case, we are filtering for B360 chipsets and 4 DDR4 DIMM slots for future expansion. The compatibility engine will filter out anything not compatible with the build. The motherboards are also capable of using the CPU's integrated GPU, in case you need to RMA your GPU or are waiting for a sale or upgrade.

Memory

A parametric filter is being applied to choose the best priced 2x4GB kit of memory within Intel's recommended specifications. With this selection, we have space on the motherboards for 2 more sticks of RAM, leaving room for future expansion.

Storage

We're also using a parametric filter to select the best priced SSD available that is at least 240GB. The SSD can be used for your OS and a handful of games. Additionally, we're using a parametric filter to select the best-priced 1TB drive. Everyone's needs are different, so feel free to increase capacities or remove a drive to fit yours.

GPU

We have set a parametric filter for the best-priced Radeon RX 570, which will let you play any popular game available today, including Fortnite, PUBG, and Apex Legends.

Case

The Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L is an mATX mini tower case with 2x front panel USB 3.0 Gen 1 ports and fits full-size graphics cards without issue. It provides several cable management holes and a couple patterned magnetic dust filters for easy removal and cleaning. If you so wish, you can also move the I/O panel to up to six different locations on the case.

PSU

For the PSU, we're using a parametric selection of a few well-reviewed semi-modular and modular units, which are all rated for good power efficiency and can provide plenty of power for this build.

AMD Version

Here is the AMD version of our Entry Level Gaming Guide..

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: See notes below.

Estimated Wattage: 250W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $198.00 $198.00 Shopping Express Buy
Motherboard
From parametric filter
  • Form Factor: Micro ATX
  • Chipset: Intel B360
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
  • RAM Type: DDR4
$106.00 $106.00 I-Tech Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-2400, DDR4-2666, DDR4-2800, DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200, DDR4-3300, DDR4-3333, DDR4-3400
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (2x4GB)
$69.30 FREE $69.30 Newegg Australia Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 240 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: SSD
$31.16 $31.16 Amazon Australia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 1000 GB - 15360 GB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$45.89 $45.89 Amazon Australia Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: Radeon RX 570
$199.00 $199.00 JW Computers Buy
Case $69.00 $69.00 Austin Computers Buy
Power Supply $79.00 $79.00 Austin Computers Buy
Total: $797.35
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Compatibility Notes

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chimpyxx 14 points 1 month ago

You guys have probably received a message like this before, but have you guys ever considered creating a recommended peripherals list for these build guides. That correspond with the budget of course.

h0pT0_Gaming 4 points 1 month ago

What is better for money and performance, an Intel or AMD PC? I've been told AMD is better also because some monitors have Free-Sync. But what about the performance?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

It just depends on whichever is cheaper, it's also good to note that if you stream, the QuickSync protocol on Intel iGPUs can be a boon

ajdroc -9 points 1 month ago

Well if you really want to get specific i recomend going with one of the AMD Ryzen processors because they are better than both intel and base amd processors

Nathiest 2 points 1 month ago

It definitely varies too much to use a blanket statement like that. Historically, Intels are the way to go if you value performance over cost, and AMDs are the way to go if you value money over performance. If you're building on a budget, go with a Ryzen; if you're going for value, an i5 is probably a better bet than a Ryzen; if you're going for best performance, Ryzen's don't come close to the i7's. It depends what you're shopping for.

littletoke76 12 Builds 6 points 1 month ago

Well said. The i7's are better for gaming than the Ryzen 7's, Most people can't justify spending almost double for 10-15% gains. Personally I would rather spend the saving's on more/better ram,GPU and faster storage.

johnzdichocki 7 Builds 3 points 11 days ago

Thank you littletoke76! :)

Personally, I would rather spend saved PC budget on a graphics card over 10-15% performance uplift, but that's the beauty of PC building; it's all up to preference and I can tell from your intelligent comment that you agree with that aspect. It's so nice to see users post helpful feedback and comments on PCPP. I don't usually comment on many posts, but sometimes I just have to thank people for being so supportive of others!

Also, I really enjoyed your father-son build back in July, and I'm not usually a fan of Black and Red Themes. Can't wait to see more from you! :D

ajdroc -9 points 1 month ago

No just no the Ryzen 7's have more threads and computing power than an i7. And an RX 570 would not be recommended i would suggest a msi 1050 ti or an asus 1060

LightningProd 3 points 16 days ago

A 1050ti is massively slower then an RX 570 and and a 1060 is a lot more expensive.

johnzdichocki 7 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

I agree with 'Nathiest' and other commenters regarding blanket statements based on both an improper understanding on how processors operate on a core-by-core basis and the believe that a particular processor is better than another based on one CPU having more cores or a higher frequency.

In most circumstances, commenters below your post are correct in that Intel is "the way to go if you value performance over cost". Your statement can be considered both true, as well as false. In short, AMD's Ryzen processors (you don't give a model number or segment number such as Ryzen 3, 5, etc.) cannot be considered better than any particular Intel offering without going into specific use-cases, product numbers, and other details needed to make a proper assumption such as TDP, if using hardware acceleration with Intel's integrated graphics, the PC build's form factor and cooling capacity to insure Turbo-frequencies and any worries regarding throttling, etc.

The same can also be said about Intel. A Pentium G4560 is a capable gaming processor in it's own right, but even if you were to base it on MSRP and performance alone, we've come a long way from Kaby-Lake. So no, Intel isn't always #1 in every single aspect. However, claiming an AMD FX 9590 is faster than a G4560 would be considered, in my opinion, just as much of a blanket statement. It's more specific than what you were inferring but doesn't have the merit behind it for it to mean anything,

Now, you didn't say anything about older architectures (me having to guess what "AMD Base Processors" are), and you didn't say anything about lower end models of processors either, but you didn't not say it either. That is mainly what I haven't seen replied yet and what I feel is better than 6+ downvotes on your comment. Don't expect to not get hate comments (this isn't one of them) about your zero sentence remark on such a controversial topic if you can't back it up with anything other than:

"No just no the Ryzen 7's have more threads and computing power than an i7."

Now you have mentioned a particular model, a Ryzen 7, but still use the term i7 as if it's a model number. From your comment, I can infer just as you did about other commenters that you stand by a statement like "an i7 9800X is slower than a Ryzen 7 1700 because it's intel and AMD's Ryzen 7 processors specifically are better than both Intel and Base AMD processors".

NOTE: The last quote was NOT 'ajdroc', rather it was a statement that is false but is proven true by his most recent comments. I just don't want people to come to PCPP looking for valuable information and assume that this is accurate, especially on a Budget Build Guide created by PCPP Staff; a resource that I would go to if I needed to build a PC. However, I hope that you receive no more hate than you have already, as this should be a peaceful platform to share content and opinions with each other.

I apologize for this being so long, as no one will probably read this, but I hope you all have a great rest of your day! :D

nckn678 3 points 1 month ago

I'm new to building pc's so forgive me if this is a stupid question but wouldn't you need an operating system in the part list for the pc to even work?

TheGameKing247 2 points 29 days ago

yes, but decided not to include :D

wittyjulian12 1 point 18 days ago

No, you could use the free version of windows or linux. Steam OS is also a free operating system built on a linux platform.

kingofnothing213 1 point 16 days ago

whats the catch with the free OS (windows)

wittyjulian12 0 points 10 days ago

you cannot use certain features such as backgrounds, and you have to make sure that version of windows will allow you to use it without a key because some of them will kick you off after 14 days, I have used my PC like that for nearly half a year before though and never had any real issues aside from inconveniences such as no background and it telling you to activate.

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h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 1 month ago

Please can someone give me feedback on the following parts list and if the parts I picked are reliable and won't fail within a few months? My Parts List

nascarjjrp 2 points 1 month ago

The only thing that I don't know about is the XFX Power Supply, all the other parts seem fine, I have some of your parts in my PC, particularly the Ryzen 3 1200, the WD Hard Drive, and the Corsair RAM, although my RAM is 1x8 GB and it's DDR4 2400, but it's the same name, Corsair Vengeance LPX. I'm fairly confident that besides the PSU your system should last, as mine has lasted 2 years now. Happy Building!

STRIKER51223 3 points 1 month ago

do u think theres a way to cut the price down to 500?

h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 1 month ago

Thank you, that is very helpful :)

ajdroc -3 points 1 month ago

Well you have added a ryzen 3 1200 which is an APU so it might not perform so well with your RX570

GrizzlyWarChief 4 points 1 month ago

A Ryzen 3 1200 is not an apu.

tmb1979 2 points 24 days ago

You are right, it is a CPU.

ajdroc -3 points 1 month ago

yes it is

ajdroc -3 points 27 days ago

it is

tmb1979 2 points 24 days ago

The Ryzen 3 1200 is a CPU. It isn't an APU. Please refer to this article, which makes clear that you will need a discrete graphics card if you buy it:

https://techreport.com/review/32301/amd-ryzen-3-1300x-and-ryzen-3-1200-cpus-reviewed

I believe that the Athlon 200GE, Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 2400G are the only desktop APUs that AMD makes at the moment. I may be wrong on that, but the 1200 is certainly not one of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryzen

h0pT0_Gaming 1 point 1 month ago

ik what an APU is, but why would it not perform so well with an rx570?

ajdroc -3 points 1 month ago

Well an APU is a CPU with a GPU chipset. so there might be problems between the APU and the RX570 that is a GPU and performs like a 1050

georges489 1 point 1 month ago

you might as well go with a ryzen 3 2XXX instead of 1st gen the b450 motherboard is built for it otherwise you can get a cheaper board (b350). In my country the 2nd gen cpu is cheaper for some reason.

Chromatikk 1 point 1 month ago

Nice build! I noticed the PSU you picked is extremely unreliable.

You can use the following list as a dummies guide for quality of PSU Manufacturing: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/986897-psu-tier-list-30/

I would recommend spending the extra money and getting a high quality PSU such as: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dDH48d/corsair-txm-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020133-na

Good luck!

lmhicks101 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

The only issue is the Power Supply, Go name brand for that. It's worth the extra couple dollars to make sure you have enough Watts. Always make sure you PSU is twice what you need. So if your system uses 250watts then get a 500 watt PSU. It comes down to Efficency and heat. The more electricity the PSU uses the more heat it makes making your case hotter and all PSUs don't provide exactly what they say they do. The better the PSU and the less strain it has the better the poswer supply. Most PSUs will say on the box. Never go under 85% efficency and always double the Watts you need for future use as well.

Second AMD is good for the price except one thing. They run hot because of how the circuty it created. No clue why is hasn't been fixed but it runs hot and the money you save buying AMD usually goes to a better cooling unit anyway so in the end you don't save anything.

Drchocolate10 1 point 1 month ago

Hi there, I am a complete noob. I basically play World of Warcraft, League and the odd game of APEX. This will be my first ever build, I am sure this will run the games I wish to play just fine. Just wondering, if you could choose 1-2 things to upgrade with my max budget probably being around the $1,200 mark, what would you recommend? Thank you for helping newbies like me.

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Classicalfredo 1 Build 2 points 1 month ago

At that Price point on the GPU I would go for the Nitro 590 over the 4GB 580. I just built on the card and it has been phenomenal for the games hes going to be playing. Im assuming at 1080.

complete_n00b 1 point 1 month ago

Hello. First, thanks for putting this together! I'm looking to build a gaming computer for my son; he's about to turn 11, mostly plays roblox, but wants to play subnautica, and will probably eventually get into games with more requirements.Also, would eventually probably like to run VR (Oculus or something similar). I've already got an HDD and power supply, so want to spend the leftover money where it would be most beneficial. Will prob go with a more name brand SSD & RAM. Is an i5 worth the performance gain if I can afford it? What i5 would you recommend for this budget build? I made some guesses/tweaks at a build here: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/complete_n00b/saved/NTrKBm, thoughts? Thanks!

ajdroc 1 point 1 month ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wBPThy

this would be a good build i made some tweaks to your list so i hope you like it if you get it but this pc will perform really well between the ryzen 5 and the 1050 ti. also on your original list you were missing a power supply.

complete_n00b 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks!

Ezman556 2 points 1 month ago

I would recommend going with an Rx card since at the same price point it mostly outperforms the 1050ti. If you go with 570 8gb or 4gb it come with 2 free games from the promotional offers.

complete_n00b 2 points 1 month ago

Thanks, this was my thought too. Looked at some comparos/reviews and the RX 580 seems to blow the GTX 1050 out of the water.

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Chromatikk 2 points 1 month ago

This is misinformation: M.2 is a form factor.

SATA or PCIe are types of computer bus interfaces. Basically the method of communication between the drive and the rest of the computer. PCIe is significantly faster than SATA.

In summary a m.2 drive will use either SATA or PCIe (aka NVMe) interface. The m.2 SSD (SATA) and a 2.5" SSD (SATA) are the exact same speed and price.

For most users I would recommend the following SSD's: Samsung 860 EVO, Crucial MX500 or the WD 3D Blue.

complete_n00b 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks! Is the speed difference between the m.2 and the traditional 2.5" SATA that noticeable? There appears to be a significant cost difference for the same amount of storage.

Nadiapopov 1 point 1 month ago

Nope you can't see the difference. Only by measuring. For ordinary use take the sata ssd.

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Nadiapopov 1 point 1 month ago

Boot time? I switch on my PC once a day.. The difference are seconds. But it's your decide how do you spend on your money.

Chromatikk 1 point 1 month ago
ajdroc 0 points 1 month ago

Actually you could get a Ryzen 7 2700X which performs better than an i5 and is cheaper

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jamisonlifsey 1 point 1 month ago

What's a good monitor that you would recommend? I'm interested in this build but wouldn't know how to pick out a monitor for it?

nascarjjrp 3 points 1 month ago

It will come down to two things, 1: Your Budget, and, 2: What is more important, Color Accuracy or Fast Response. My preference is color accuracy, so my monitor is an Acer SB220Q, the Amazon link is: https://www.amazon.com/Acer-SB220Q-Ultra-Thin-Frame-Monitor/dp/B07CVL2D2S/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1550959364&sr=8-2&keywords=acer+sb220q It has IPS technology, so I get good color from all viewing angles, and it's at $90, so it's at a good price for a monitor, and decent response time at 4ms. It's all you really need for a build like this, because you won't be gaming at anymore than 1080p 60fps for most titles. It also has freesync so if you have a compatible AMD Radeon GPU, you can use that. If you need anymore help, let me know and I'll be glad to give it to you

jamisonlifsey 1 point 1 month ago

Wow, this was actually the perfect response. I'm just getting into PC gaming and I don't know that much about hardware yet. I was hoping that I wouldn't get recommended a high end monitor that would be overkill. This is good on budget and seems to still be high quality so thank you. Only question I have. Is this a good entry level build? I've been looking into them but of course I can't tell much apart among them. Is this a quality entry build, or do you recommend another one? Thanks so much!

nascarjjrp 1 point 1 month ago

To be honest, yes and no, for yes, it's got all the core components to make a good 1080p 60fps Medium/High settings for most AAA titles. There's only one knock, and it's not really a big one, but, the case is a little small, it might be a little more difficult to manage cables in it, but that's just a general assumption. One helpful tip is to look at the case and see it's reviews and see if it mentions cable management and if it's good/bad. Also you could look at the case and see if it has a good amount of holes for cable management. And of course, it comes to personal preference and if cable management is a deal breaker.

nascarjjrp 1 point 1 month ago

And I just took a look at the case, it should be good enough for an entry level build. Bigger cases generally have better airflow and cable management, but smaller cases that are well designed can have good marks in both. Bigger cases tend to be better but slightly more expensive, so it comes down to how big the mobo is, and what your space/budget is.

nascarjjrp 2 points 1 month ago

Two extra parts to consider before you purchase, a WiFi Card, either internal or external, and a cd drive. TP-Link is a good brand to consider for WiFi, and LG is a good brand for cd drives. You need to buy the WiFi card if you intend to use wireless internet with this, if you use ethernet, it's not a problem. CD drives you need to buy if you use cd/dvd's at all. I will put links down here for the parts that I use.

ExactHoboSoup 1 point 1 month ago

Could this run Fallout 4 decently? And could it handle its Creation Kit?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

Yes

Jessebooth3 1 point 1 month ago

Hey! Just looking to know if this computer would work for me. I’m streaming my Xbox through the computer to twitch or mixer! Would this work for me? Thanks!

Tigga62 1 point 1 month ago

Why would you do that when you can already stream to twitch and mixer to Xbox with just the Xbox itself? Seems like a waste of money to me tbh.

Jessebooth3 1 point 1 month ago

Streaming straight from my Xbox to mixer does not allow for customizing my stream. Such as layovers, donation messages and new followers notifications that pop up as others are watching. Having a good PC that can handle the CPU usage that the Xbox live app uses and any OBS on windows will do this form me. I appreciate the feed back but no need to comment if you’re unsure of what I’m attempting to do. Thanks in advanced

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The iGPU can encode the stream pretty well, but you want a capture card

paldor 1 point 1 month ago

Great Idea

TheeRazorWizard 1 point 1 month ago

I was wondering if this pc would be a step up compared to an xbox one frame rate wise. Also with this build will I be able to connect to wifi or would I need an adapter? I am new to pc building and would like to try it while on a budget around this price range. Thanks

joelkramer713 1 point 25 days ago

You'll need a wifi card or a usb wifi adapter. Reading the reviews of the motherboard on Amazon though, it looks like if you're going to get a double wide video card (as in the description), you're likely to run into space issues if you also get a wifi card (quick note: most wifi cards will only need the PCIe X1 slot, thought they can be plugged into any.)

I'm doing this build with the Asus - TUF Z390M-PRO GAMING (WI-FI) motherboard which has onboard wifi. It's about 100 bucks more expensive, a bit more than I would spend on a wifi card but I won't have to worry about fitting the card in.

Almondsurf 1 point 1 month ago

Thank you for this build. I just purchased most of what you have here. I'm using ram from my other computer (Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2666), and different 1T (SSD) & 4T HD's. I don't know too much about this stuff, only how to put it together, which is why I'm just buying what your recommending here. I have a couple questions for you, even though it's probably too late since I already ordered everything like 5 min ago... :)

  • 1) I was wondering how you felt about the on-board graphics on the mother board? I use this for home / family use, so not planning on using it for much games, per say. Should the on-board be sufficient?
  • 1.1) Silly question about the onboard graphics. I have an old graphics card (ASUS EN210 SILENT/DI/1GD3/V2(LP) GeForce 210 Video Card). Would the on-bard graphics be better than this old card, or should I use this card?
  • 2) Why do you recommend the (Patriot - 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory) RAM here, when you are recommending faster RAM on your home / office build (Patriot - Viper 4 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory)? Not critiquing. I'm sure there is a reason, just wondering why.

Again, thank you fur putting this build together and making my life much easier.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

yes, no, and it's just whatever is cheapest

LightningProd 1 point 16 days ago
  • 1) The iGPU should be fine as long as you are not gaming, it supports UHD monitors and can do basic tasks well.
  • 1.1) Don't use your old card. The iGPU in this build is 550% faster then it.
  • 2) The home/office build uses 3000Mhz RAM because Ryzen works best with 2933Mhz+ RAM. Intel works best with 2666Mhz+ RAM, which is a little bit cheaper (and slightly slower).
Tigga62 1 point 1 month ago

Could this possibly run Rainbow Six Siege? I am pretty sure it can but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

yes

Gman5543 1 point 1 month ago

Hello guys, I'm new to pc building and I just want to know, will I be able to mod games like GTA:5, edit and upload videos with this build?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

yes

mercwifdamouf 1 point 1 month ago

Total noob here, but I am looking to build my first PC, going to do primarily gaming, but would also need it for work/school. Can I get some direction possibly?

Drewsrigs 0 points 1 month ago

A few things I have to say for you.

1)Go for a higher end GPU off the bat so you don't have to waste more money later. I would recommend a 1050ti. 2)Go for the i3 8350k instead. 3)Get corsair Vengance. 4)I would get Inland Professional SSDs instead. 5)Not that it matters, but i would want a Hyper T2 6)Also, this really doesn't matter ,but get a bigger PSU for future expansion.

Hope this helps, DREWSRIGS.

Drewsrigs 1 point 1 month ago

Oh, and go for Nvidia

mercwifdamouf 1 point 1 month ago

Thank you! This really helps, sorry for the late reply. Any other tips? Looking at the CPU, says with the one you recommended I'd need a cooler. Really appreciate it, and any other further help you can give if possible.

jonathanseo 1 point 1 month ago

Is this computer completed?

eesti 4 points 1 month ago

Like IKEA furniture, some assembly is required

RustyFire 1 point 1 month ago

I honestly think that the 240 Gb SSD should be replaced with maybe a 120, as the SSD would be used mostly a boot drive as the HDD is used for major storage. I would also personally go for a Pentium G4560 or 4400, as the difference between you would be paying close to $130 for an i3, but the Pentium has relatively the same performance, even though it has a lesser core count, but it is much less money to spend. And honestly, the RX 570 is a great choice, but I feel like you should base it off of other games like Overwatch, or CS:GO, not just the games that are part of a fad. Otherwise, this is a pretty solid build.

Edit: you could get a cooler that's not stock for relatively cheap, as the Intel stock cooler is not super pleasing to the eye, and you wouldn't be overclocking anyways.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

1: Some people like having games load in a reasonable time 2: Some workloads like quad core processors more than dual core ones, including games 3: The stock cooler is more than enough, and looks are up to the individual

RustyFire 1 point 1 month ago

It would still be an SSD, but it would be less space, as to use for a boot and smaller storage. Granted, you have a point on the cooler, though you can pick up a better one for less than $10.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

but why would you spend an extra $10 when the cooler in the box is good enough

RustyFire 1 point 1 month ago

It's not that you HAVE to change it, but it is more aesthetically pleasing, and I personally would not mind paying 10 extra bucks.

Drewsrigs 1 point 1 month ago

Good enough is not good enough though. I went for a Hyper t2 totally worth it. But you don't have to.

DaBoiz 1 point 1 month ago

Hi there I’m a complete noob and have played on a console all my life and want to know a good list of parts with a budget of around $800

Thatsmell 1 point 1 month ago

Is this build going to last 2 or 3 years with minor upgrades? I was going to do an intel i5 8600k as my gpu as i want to use this as a workstation too.

Thatsmell 1 point 1 month ago

Cpu sorry

Sgtqman19 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

What’s your budget? I’ll put you a full build together.

ChickyMcChickface 1 point 1 month ago

Hi! Thanks for taking the time to make this. This will be my first build and I have a couple of clarifying, noob questions. First, our modem is upstairs hooked up to my brother's xbox, so will this build be able to get on wifi, or will I need to add that? I would like to rip my CDs to the computer, so do I need an external optical drive? I plan on mostly using the PC for Minecraft modpacks, namely Sky Factory 3, and some older games like FFX. Thanks for the help!

Nadiapopov 1 point 1 month ago

Corsair CXM for entry level? I would rather take the FSP Hexa+.

Augie123098 1 point 1 month ago

I’m a noob at pc and I’m going to get one but I don’t know if a intel core i3 or a amd Ryzen 3

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

The i3 is faster, but the AM4 platform the Ryzen 3 is on will be supported until 2020

LightningProd 1 point 16 days ago

An i3 has equal performance to a 2200G, and a 2200G has better integrated graphics and is cheaper.

If you like Intel, go for the i3. (Generally, Intel CPU's have better gaming performance.) If you aren't getting a dedicated graphics card or on are on a tight budget, a Ryzen CPU would be better.

Dragon2230 1 point 1 month ago

I'm new to building computers and I was wondering if this build comes with an OS or if I need to get one? I really want this build and it looks like the best fit for me because I grew up playing on laptops and wanted a better computer for a lower price.

eesti 2 points 1 month ago

You will have to buy a copy of Windows, or install a Linux distribution

trevorv99 1 point 1 month ago

Would this build be able to run RPG's like The Witcher, Mass Effect, and others on medium or high settings?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, it very much can!

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

You're more than welcome to disagree with choices and provide alternatives, but please don't spread misinformation in the process. None of what you've said in this comment is true at all. I urge you to look into benchmarks before saying such things.

Sgtqman19 2 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Oh I know facts lol 8 gigs of ram is not enough and you will get stutters. This is not disinformation. This is knowledge from experience.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

While I disagree with you on that as well, that wasn't your only statement, and those others were patently false.

atofu 1 point 1 month ago

Are you sure that this all runs well with 450 W of power?

g0rnex 1 point 1 month ago

I put a bit more ram in there. I'm kinda noob in all off this but I think this is som good ram for value: G.Skill - NT Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

g0rnex 2 points 1 month ago

This looks good. read here that the motherboard is a bit small if you need extra cooling in the future. What motherboard would be good if you want some upgrade possibilities in the future.

l20_m20 1 point 1 month ago

Do you need a sound card with this build?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The sound card is integrated

mobkil3r 1 point 1 month ago

hey im new to pc build and i have no clue how to build one does anybody know and if yes could they help thx

Kebbb 1 point 1 month ago

I'm willing to spend more money on a bigger case and a better video card and CPU. What would you recommend?

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

The modest build

Kebbb 1 point 1 month ago

The modest build is a little out of my budget. Im mostly worried about the case’s size limiting future upgrades. Will this be a problem? What other cases would you recommend if it is? Thanks.

balbasor 1 point 1 month ago

Is this pc good for music production, light gaming, photoshop multitask? If not which one is good for around 500

Fairly 1 point 1 month ago

I play games that are hardly taxing, even on my current laptop (Minecraft, Transistor, Shovel Knight, Stardew Valley), but I also do occasional art, design, and layout work in programs like Photoshop, GIMP, Scribus, and Inkscape (and maybe Krita after I have a new computer). I'd also like to explore Android app development, and my current laptop, with an AMD processor, has issues running Android device virtual machines.

Would this build be suitable for a jack-of-all-trades approach to gaming, art and design, and development/VMs? I'm not going deep into any of these hobbies, so I don't need anything particularly specialized.

DerBengel 1 point 1 month ago

Is there a reason why you are using enterprise hard drive?? Are you planning on RAID?

PerfectCrab 1 point 1 month ago

Would this work with a medium tower such as a NZXT S340 Elite?

I'm a first timer when it comes to PC building, and i'm worried if these items wouldn't fit inside a larger tower

MightyWallop 1 point 1 month ago

Hi . I'm looking to build a PC that has more power & better graphics than the original PS4. So how does this build compare to PS4 ? Better or same ? I will be playing mostly Fighting games like Street Fighter V & Fighting EX Layer & also Conan Exiles .

Rogue_Xodus 1 point 1 month ago

Hello, new to the pc build scene here. Would this build be able to run Insurgency: Sandstorm and Rising Storm 2: Vietnam at medium?

Salad.exe 1 point 1 month ago

Hi all! Just wondering, if I wanted to lower this computer to a budget of lets say, 850? How would I go bout doing it with whay part?

AlphaSpaghit 1 point 1 month ago

Is this good for Garry's Mod, Town of Salem, Left4Dead2 and Minecraft, or is it too good? im new to building PCs.

Jdub2023 1 point 1 month ago

Hello, I am new to pc gaming and this would be my first build. I was wonder if anyone knew how good FPS this pc could run Rainbow Six Seige on medium to high settings? Also if I’m just using the pc for gaming would this pc or the AMD pc be better?

gobbo99 1 point 26 days ago

Any other cheaper options for the case? if so could someone please link them, cheers.

YaBoiPride 1 point 26 days ago

My 540$ build is better and runs games better

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 26 days ago

The RX 570 will perform considerably better than the GTX 1050 in games.

chimpyxx 1 point 26 days ago

Another typo (Or filter error). It says the filter is for the best priced 2tb drive, yet the filter is showing 1tb drives in the build.

Scylvendii 1 point 24 days ago

I'm tired of laptop gaming and planning on getting this build soon. I need advice on what changes to make to this build if I live in an area with far too much dust, regular power outages and occasional voltage fluctuations. These power outages and voltage fluctuations are the reason I didn't get a pc in the last 10 years after my motherboard fried again. Laptops tend to work reasonably fine without frying and the only problem they face is dust regularly clogging within. So anything I could do to the pc to make it dust resistant and maybe ensure its resistant to voltage fluctuations?

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 23 days ago

I'd recommend looking into dust filters that could be added to the selected case or looking for a case that comes with dust filters already. Cases that come with dust filters already installed tend to be a little more premium, but that's not a hard-and-fast rule.

Regarding voltage fluctuations, I will always recommend picking up a good Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS). Those are by far the best protection you can give yourself.

parkjxg 1 point 22 days ago

Can i change the motherboard to like an H310M-HDV MicroATX LGA 1151? Would it affect anything? Plz help, i am looking to get the pc in the next 2 weeks

jbarksdale 1 point 20 days ago

can someone help me with a beginner build for gaming /streaming computer. my budget is $400? i already have the bit penix nova tg case.

macetotheface 1 point 10 days ago

Try going over here - https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/forum/27-create-a-part-list-for-me/

Just an FYI that budget will be tight to create a build that will stream well.

Dragon2230 1 point 19 days ago

If I replaced the CPU with the Intel Core i5-8400 would I be doing any thing wrong or missing out on anything?

macetotheface 1 point 10 days ago

Nope, in fact in games that can saturate up to 6 cores, you would see an uplift in gaming performance. Other than 2 additional cores, the 2 would perform the same.

MythicCpK 1 point 16 days ago

I’m so new to this I don’t even know what half of these stuff means but I’m looking to build a pc I was wondering if someone could make me a list with everything my budget is 500

dirtnastylow 1 point 14 days ago

So to be clear, you made a comment on a parts list AND guide for $500, asking for someone to make you a parts list for a $500 build? You're playing 4D chess now my friend

Shininggg 2 points 5 days ago

Would this build be able to run 4d chess at 1080p? ;)

dirtnastylow 1 point 5 days ago

Maybe. Try turning off AA and post fx.

AwkwardKid435 1 point 15 days ago

I'm completely new to PC building and I'm trying to switch from console, I was wondering if anyone could tell me how easy this build will be to assemble? should I get a professional to do it or just watch some videos and wing it?

dirtnastylow 2 points 14 days ago

Just watch a couple of guides, the physical installation isn't that challenging. My main advice would be to use common sense and be methodical.

AwkwardKid435 1 point 10 days ago

Thanks

JMTNN 1 point 14 days ago

What Power Supply Should I Choose? I read one question about the power supply and i forgot who but someone said you could get better for a better price.Thanks!

Ul 1 point 9 days ago

Do i need a sound and wifi card for this setup?

drnsoccerdude 1 point 9 days ago

Has anybody bought these parts and built this pc if so hmu because I wanna know how good it is for my first gaming pc thanks

Hamburgxrz 1 point 7 days ago

It says it can run CS:GO smoothly and I am currently playing on a crappy laptop that only gets around 30 frames per second with low graphics for CS. I was wondering at what it would be around for FPS on this pc (Highest Graphics). Also with the stock cooler is it possible to overclock w/o problems.

joelkramer713 1 point 3 days ago

I built a modification of this system with some parts salvaged from my last PC.

One thing to note here: this case only comes with one fan.

Fans are kinda cheap and I had some to salvage, but it's worth noting.

ily123ily 1 point 2 days ago

Hi, I really like your build, I plan to make a pc to game and stuff. As I am very new to pcs i came up with build after watching many youtube vids can i have your thoughts and suggestion thanks https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/xCryMZ

ScarsBattle 1 point 2 days ago

I literally know nothing about PC’s, can this run Escape From Tarkov with decent FPS and graphics?

benh1953 1 point 6 hours ago

Can/How well can this PC run Fortnite/Overwatch?

redsoul90 0 points 1 month ago

Why would you ever buy micro ATX? Mid-Towers aren't that much larger and you don't have to worry about parts not fitting in the case.

joelkramer713 1 point 3 days ago

A mid tower won't fit under my desk.

eesti 0 points 1 month ago

Because it's cheaper

Sgtqman19 2 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

Actually not. You can buy a mid case for $25. They work great.

eesti 1 point 1 month ago

what case?

Drewsrigs 0 points 1 month ago

You know, the i3 8350k is better and not that much more expensive

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 1 month ago

The 8350K doesn't come with a cooler, and one of its strengths - overclocking - requires a Z chipset motherboard. This means you need to swap out the CPU and motherboard and add a cooler. At that point you'll very easily have to spend at least $100 more. That may be worth it to some, but my opinion is that that extra money could be better spent elsewhere, not to mention it grows the budget out of scope for this guide.

Prometheus0406 0 points 19 days ago

if you were doing budget builds then an AMD CPU is so much better price for performance and the 2000 series CPU's have really good integrated graphics in case your dedicated GPU fails.

macetotheface 1 point 10 days ago

The only 2 APU's from AMD are the 2200G and the 2400G (not including the 200GE since that is quite poor value IMO), and building with them as a just in case isn't a good enough reason. The 8100 is roughly the same cost and will have similar/better performance in a majority of games.

readdyeddy -6 points 1 month ago

Bad build list, or it's probably out of date.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

Feedback is very much welcome, but please keep it constructive. For example, what would you like to see different?

readdyeddy -3 points 1 month ago

Okay, for example. Since this is a budget building list. A B-series motherboard is useless. We're assuming that the builder is gonna have a tight budget.

B series motherboard would be useful IF, you had a K-processor. But if you get K processor you would want a 3000MHz or higher Ram freq. However H/B series motherboard only supports upto 2666Mhz. So if you get cpu that doesn't have overclocking, then you only need H series motherboard.

B series motherboard is useless for Intel builds. I have both AMD and Intel CPUs. B series is good for AMD because it allows overclock and 3000MHz ram in B/X series.

For a i3-8100, you can't overclock and you have 2400MHz ram freq in your list. So H series motherboard fits better. Try using the Gigabyte H310M A micro atx motherboard, it has support for NVMe SSD x2


Storage: the SSD 240GB is a bit useless. Not sure when this build was made.. Try HP ex900, it's an NVMe SSD that supports PCIe 3.0 x4 (4 bus lanes), 250GB for 47 dollars or 500GB for 80 dollars. That would be enough for a typical user for any games and work loads.


Case: A budget builder wouldn't want to spend more than needed for a Case that costs 50 dollars. Rather try looking at Rosewill FBM-X1. it's 20 dollars, has side panel to look in. There is a metal plate which forces you to use smaller GPU lengths, but it's fine. You can always remove it if you want.


PSU: Rosewill - 450 W 80+ Bronze, is what you want, as it's 35 dollars on amazon prime, than your 50 dollar PSU. yours is semi modular, but for a budget gamer it's not a need. Saving money is more important than spending extra dollars for better one.


However, this build list is going to expire by May of 2019. AMD is releasing their Ryzen 3000 series by then. The reason why it's important is that the Ryzen 5 3600G is a ridiculous APU that defeats low end gpu. It has an integrated GPU similar to the rx-570 3GB (yes the integrated gpu is 3GB). The cpu portion is similar to the ryzen 5 2600. This apu starts at 200 dollars. When this is released, it'll save you a bunch of money than to spend on gpu.

ThoughtA staff submitter 4 points 1 month ago

Keep in mind that the goal with this guide isn't to cut cost at the expense of all else. Cheaper PCs can always be had. This guide seeks to provide good performance and build experience for roughly $500.


Intel K CPUs cannot be overclocked on B360 motherboards, so I'm not sure what you're getting at there. Chipset selection is not solely about CPU overclockability. I think that misconception may be coloring your view here. The H310 chipset is not even capable of dual channel memory support. It's also far more limited on PCI-E lanes, both in number and generation (PCI-E 3.0 vs PCI-E 2.0). There are several other reasons to choose B360 motherboards over H310 ones for gaming, but suffice to say, the differences I mentioned are more than worth the $15 price difference between the B360 board in the list and the H310 A you're recommending.


I'm not quite sure I'm following you here. You're saying a 240GB SSD is useless but then recommending a 250GB SSD at over 50% increased price and saying that would be enough for a typical user.


Cases are very much a personal choice. Cheaper cases can entirely be justified, but I prefer to recommend cases that will be a little easier and more pleasant to build in, especially for newer builders. The Q300L also, in my opinion much nicer to look at - both inside and out.


I assume you're speaking of the Rosewill ARC 450. I only add PSUs to the list that have reviewed well, as I and the community take PSU quality very seriously. I don't operate off assumptions with this. Unfortunately, I've not yet found any reviews of the ARC 450.

Additionally, the CXM (2015) 450 is $5 cheaper at $30 at MIR, though of course MIRs aren't for everyone.


I would be careful citing speculation and rumor as fact when it comes to future releases.

rexx2l 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks for the work you do here, i've used this site for 4 years now and started my very first build off of one of your build guides from back then. Without it I would have probably put a bomb in for my power supply lol

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks! That's always nice to hear :)

DaBoiz 1 point 1 month ago

That is too confusing for me

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eesti 1 point 1 month ago

Is this supposed to be a joke? If so I don't get it

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor 8W - 65W
G.Skill - NT Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory 5W
Kingston - A400 240 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Seagate - Constellation ES.2 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card 37W - 150W
Total: 250W