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Modest Gaming Build

by manirelli

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NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

Our Modest Gaming Build is built around the Intel i5-6500. If you do not plan to overclock your computer this is arguably the best mid-range processor on the market. We paired the i5 with a parametric list of H170 motherboard that supports up to 64GB of DDR4 memory, 6x SATA6 devices, and front panel USB3.0.

For this build and most machines outside of the top end enthusiast realm we opted to go with 8GB of DDR4 memory as the cost of DIMMs have dropped dramatically over the last year. The parametric filter finds the best price on 8GB kits of memory that are within Intel’s recommended specifications. Our storage choice is also based on parametric selection criteria – 2TB and 7200rpm are our standard recommendations for builds that incorporate a mechanical drive. With our increased budget we can also include a solid state drive selected by parametric filters. The cost of SSDs has steadily dropped over the past two years so you should be able to purchase at least a 240GB drive on this budget.

On a 800 dollar budget, the GeForce GTX1060 6GB is a fantastic choice. This GPU has excellent performance for the price making this model one of the best graphics card choices on the market. At 1080p the GTX 1060 6GB provides a consistent 60fps even on demanding games like Battlefield One using Ultra/High settings.

All of the components are housed in the DeepCool Dukase V2 ATX mid-tower. This case is an affordable option that has front panel USB3.0, room for full size graphics cards, and cutouts in the motherboard tray for easy cable routing. For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed fully and semi-modular units, all of which will provide more than enough power for this system.

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Estimated Wattage: 290W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $278.00 $278.00 Shopping Express Buy
Motherboard $158.40 $158.40 Newegg Australia Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 8GB (1x8GB), 8GB (2x4GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
$85.00 $85.00 Umart Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 240GB - 10TB
  • Type: SSD
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 2.5"
$109.00 $109.00 Shopping Express Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 2TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$92.00 $92.00 IJK Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
$345.00 $345.00 PLE Computers Buy
Case
No Matches Available
Power Supply
No Matches Available
Total: $1067.40
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

Cejotas 12 points 6 months ago

Why are H170 motherboards recommended for a "modest" build? Wouldn't be better to use a B150 that are cheaper and are used in the "great" build (https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/d3BD4D/great-gaming-build)?

I have little knowledge about motherboards and I would like to understand the pros/cons besides the price.

snarky_gent 3 points 6 months ago

Seconding Cejotas here; I'm a total noob at building a computer, so is it worth buying a more expensive H170, especially if I won't be overclocking or linking graphics cards?

AppleGeek911 2 points 5 months ago

Nope. You can't overclock with H170, only Z170 and an i5-6600K or i7-6700K

jomit 2 points 5 months ago

I came here to ask the same question. I don't understand why the "modest" build has motherboard that is about $40 more expensive than the "great" build.

vagabond139 5 Builds 7 points 6 months ago

You really should have selected the 450 watt and or the 550 watt Corsair CXM's too along with the other PSU's.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

I would agree with this for the most part, but the Corsair CXM series (even the newer gray series) is IMO good for builds with tighter budgets than this one. Like the Entry Level Gaming Build for example. A SeaSonic G series is a little bit higher and a little bit more expensive and I find one to be more relevant for this kind of build. But the gray Corsair CXM power supplies still remain good choices.

vagabond139 5 Builds 3 points 6 months ago

The Seasonic G is definitely better but the CXM is better than the M12II and likely the CapstoneG if its anything like the 1200 watt one and I am wanting to say the Toughpower too.

MjolnirThunder 5 points 6 months ago

Just curious, how come it seems like you guys lean towards the HUEG end of storage capacity? I know storage is one of the most variable parts of a build due to everyone having different needs, but it always strikes me as almost goofy having 2TB of HDD storage for a build in this price range. Hell, I spent thrice the amount on my computer and have half the HDD space.

Also that case looks pretty spiffy for being ~$50.

vagabond139 5 Builds 2 points 6 months ago

Games can take up room fast. This imo is a modest storage setup. I have about 1.1TB used up on my HDD for games and a few other non games files and some backup of files ( not for itself though since that would be stupid) and about ~180GB on my SSD just with basic programs, the OS, and games.

Plus a 2TB HDD doesn't cost much more than a 1TB HDD.

hbm.6867 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

Yeah it is, however I marked it off my list because the internal io cables are rainbow colored and the big usb 3.0 connector is bright blue :(. You could probably paint them but I didn't want to go through the trouble.

Retrrro 0 points 6 months ago

you seem like a knowledgeable person about gaming pc's Can you please help me build a gaming pc? ik its a lot to ask but no one wants to help me and I really want to have a gaming pc. So pretty please can you help me? :) my budget is under 700 dollors

LemonComputers 3 points 6 months ago

What kind of help do you need?

MjolnirThunder 3 points 6 months ago

I'm flattered, but honestly I'm not that knowledgeable about gaming PC's, my advice tends to be relative to my build.

What are you hoping to get out of it? What games do you want to play and at what resolutions/framerates? Figuring that out is usually a good starting point.

Retrrro 4 points 6 months ago

Thanks guys so much for helping. Im hoping to play games like cs go, gmod, black ops 3, and other fun pc games. as for framerates anything above 60 fps is fine. And the kind of help I need is basically building a gaming computer. I do not know what kind of intel core to get or what kind of motherboard is considered good. I just got into pc gaming and no nothing about it. I would like to start of with something under 700 dollars. As I get more into pc gaming I will get better and more priced computers. Any help that is good or bad is very much appreciated.

Trav_X 2 points 6 months ago

Do you need a monitor, mouse, and keyboard included in your build? I can throw a build together and give you a link, but I just need to know a bit more about parts you want. Do you need a wi-fi adapter? Or will you use Ethernet? And do you plan on buying a licensed Windows copy? Cause that itself is around $90

StarBlazer457 1 point 6 months ago

Yes, this is very important.

Retrrro 1 point 6 months ago

sorry about responding really late i was really busy with school but i have the mouse and keyboard and i am thinking about just getting a 24 inch acer monitor but about the computer i just want the best computer thats under $800 and i use ethernet

Retrrro 1 point 6 months ago

Never mind i also need monitors, I want a good monitor for gaming thats under 250, Im getting dual monitor so i would probs get two of the same one

Retrrro 1 point 6 months ago

You don't need to necessarily build my computer for me, just any kind of tips or help is fine.

StarBlazer457 2 points 6 months ago

How about this one? It should play those 3 games pretty well. With $700 it is hard to get some really good components. I play Gmod on my current computer it runs pretty well(it's not top of the line nor a gaming processor). I don't know about the other games I know CS GO is not very demanding. You will need a keyboard, mice and a monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor $110.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $68.99 @ SuperBiiz
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $44.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $39.75 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card $179.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ B&H
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $85.70 @ My Choice Software
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $29.79 @ OutletPC
Case Fan Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan $17.88 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $692.96
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 19:24 EDT-0400
PlasmusAng 1 point 6 months ago

I can help configure I ve been doing it for friends for a while now

Chrl 3 points 6 months ago

lit +1

jglennholt 3 points 6 months ago

Oh, NVM. My bad. That's just the promotional pix for the case done by the manufacturer

FutureTrunks 2 points 5 months ago

I am not good at all with computers and am looking for my first gaming pc. This build fits my budget and I like it a lot. Can anyone give me any suggestions on headsets, a monitor (1080p is fine) , keyboards, mouse, and OS for this build? Preferably an LED lit keyboard because I want it kind of flashy lol. Im not computer savvy either so please dumb it down for me if you are going to explain things ;) If you could help i would greatly appreciate it.

Beb 1 point 5 months ago

Do you have any kind of budget?

FallenGod 2 points 5 months ago

This is my first build, is based on the one presented here, what do you guys think?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $191.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Asus H170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $92.98 @ Newegg
Memory Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory $93.89 @ OutletPC
Storage PNY CS1311 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $128.27 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card $268.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Cooler Master MasterBox 5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $59.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $64.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $941.00
Mail-in rebates -$55.00
Total $886.00
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-11 11:04 EST-0500
voiduprising 2 points 5 months ago

As for OS, would you reccomend going out and buying the Optical Drive to go along and get a disk copy of Windows, just in case you may need it in the future?

StarBlazer457 1 point 6 months ago

How good is the quality on that PSU? I need to find a cheaper one for my build?

Trav_X 2 points 6 months ago

The Seasonic M12II and S12II are some of the best budget oriented PSU's on the market, better than Corsair's CX Green series, and EVGA's B series. In general, Seasonic makes pretty good PSU's and their OEMs are good. The power supply used in this build is of very good quality and is an outstanding PSU for the price. You could also get a Corsair CXM Grey series PSU for similar prices depending on preference.

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

In general, Seasonic makes pretty good PSU's and their OEMs are good.

SeaSonic is their own OEM actually.

Trav_X 1 point 6 months ago

Even better!

fenwaydog5 1 point 6 months ago

What, would be a good monitor to go with this

Trav_X 2 points 6 months ago

The ASUS VC239H would be a great choice if you're on a budget, it is 1080p, 23 inches, and IPS, which means it has great colors. It's 60hz, and has very thin bezels. If you ever upgraded your GPU, you could easily get two more of these monitors at their very modest price to get a killer triple monitor setup.

If you're looking for more than 1080, the Acer G257HU (and smidpx variant) are great 1440p IPS monitors. It's 25 inches, and around double the price of the VC239H. 60hz 1440p and it is a pretty damn good budget 1440p monitor.

towerdivermp 2 points 6 months ago

I can confirm that the first monitor you mention is a decent overclocker. I managed to get it to 72 herts before running into flickering, and my friend also highly recommends the second monitor as well.

Phantom114 1 point 6 months ago

Is it possible to use the first monitor you listed and this gaming build to do a dual monitor setup?

Trav_X 1 point 6 months ago

Yeah that would work perfectly fine :)

Phantom114 1 point 6 months ago

What would you use to connect them? HDMI, Displayport, VGA, or DVI?

Trav_X 1 point 6 months ago

I'm not sure exactly what ports the monitors have, but I would use HDMI and DisplayPort first, and use DVI and VGA only if absolutely necessary since both are older standards, DVI is still okay for 1080p and I would not suggest using VGA at all

Bargain_Bob 1 point 6 months ago

I was wondering why the RX-480 chipset graphics card has changed. Is this a newer, better card?

Trav_X 1 point 6 months ago

In general, the 1060 6GB can get between 6-10% better FPS in games, however the RX480 can pull ahead in some DX12 games but it's not really a standard in the industry yet. The 480 can however be crossfire to add multiple cards, while the 1060 can't be anything but alone. For a budget, SLI should not be necessary anyways.

Bargain_Bob 2 points 6 months ago

Thanks!

EnonZ 1 point 6 months ago

In my country, the cheapest RX480 comes at $269.75 and the cheapest 6gb 1060 is priced at around $298.29. That's a 10.58% price increase. Which one would be worth it?

Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 G1 Gaming vs Asus GeForce GTX 1060 Turbo

J.Conover 2 points 6 months ago

Go with the 480. They're so close in performance, that price difference is your biggest deciding factor.

EnonZ 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you.

TheHostileBanana 3 points 6 months ago

Even if both cost the same, I would get the rx 480. Dx 12 is going to be the standard before you change the card, and the difference in dx11 games is almost nonexistant.

Trav_X 2 points 6 months ago

Agreed, the 480 would be better in your case, cause the different in performance is less than 10%, and in DirectX 12 the 480 will beat the 1060. Plus, the G1 Gaming is a much better cooler than the Turbo.

zain2002 1 point 6 months ago

I have 2 2.5" 500GB HDDs from my old laptops. Can I use them in this build and save about 50 $ ? I won't be buying any SSD so that's another 50$ in my pocket :)

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

Yes.

brettvirmalo 1 point 6 months ago

Another noob question: What else do I need to buy other than the obvious (monitor(s), keyboard). Windows 10 license?

And if you were to spend a little more on this build, what would you upgrade? Graphics card?

Thanks!

Trav_X 3 points 6 months ago
  • Mouse and keyboard
  • Monitor
  • If you want to use Ethernet, you need the router etc. set up, if you want to use Wi-Fi, you need a USB 3.0 or PCIE dongle for it
  • License for the OS you want (i.e. Windows 10)
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jglennholt 1 point 6 months ago

It looks like you're using a water cooler on the CPU and some kind of shroud on the motherboard?

Trav_X 1 point 6 months ago

The motherboard has very large and befitting heat sinks, and it's a good board. There is no watercooling on this build, it's just the stock Intel cooler which will be adequate for a i5-6500

InvaderGir 1 point 6 months ago

Damn that Dukase case in white looks gorgeous!

FH_DIP 1 point 6 months ago

How effective would this build be for video editing/production? I would assume a RAM increase would be necessary, but I don't know if the 1060 would work well

MjolnirThunder 2 points 6 months ago

I don't know much about video editing, but the little bit I have read mentions that video cards ironically aren't that important to video editing, despite how counter-intuitive that sounds. Your bigger concern should be with your CPU, where video editing utilizes multiple cores and hyperthreading. As far as I know the only program that heavily relies on a video card is DaVinci Resolve.

And yes, an extra stick of RAM would be beneficial as well.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

I don't know much about video editing, but the little bit I have read mentions that video cards ironically aren't that important to video editing, despite how counter-intuitive that sounds.

Source?

MjolnirThunder 2 points 6 months ago

http://www.logicalincrements.com/articles/videoediting

Down the page a bit they talk about component selection, after the example builds.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Somewhat good I'd guess.

Davorko75 1 point 6 months ago

Hi, this could be a newb question but someone please indulge me. The motherboard specification shows that it supports dual channel DDR4 2133 speed. Will it be a waste to include a DDR4 2400 speed kit? Or should I go for something along the line of HyperX 16GB FURY DDR4 2133MHz CL14 KIT? Thank you in advance for an answer!

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

If your memory is clocked at a higher speed than your motherboard or processor supports, it would be a waste of money to purchase memory with higher clock speeds, but doing so should not cause compatibility issues. In other words, if your memory has a higher clock speed than your motherboard (or processor) supports, your motherboard or processor will downclock your memory.

pixilated1 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you. I needed that succinct explanation. :)

LemonComputers 1 point 5 months ago

No problem.

LazyLifeOP 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Nice choices. I'm curious as to your choice in SSD's would it be better to go for an 'Intel 600p Series M.2 2280 SSD 256GB'. it's not that expensive. would there be any downfalls over a 2.5" SATA?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

I don't think either of them are good choices, to be honest...

morganm 3 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

Why?

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago

The Silicon Power SSD used in the build guide is to be honest rather poor quality and the Intel 600P SSD has a very low TBW durability / lifespan rating.

danielwiki 1 point 6 months ago

If I am getting this, do I need to add a CPU cooler or any other necessary parts (eg. more fans)

Tyreathian 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

This is a modest build so you can probably live with the stock cooler. Fans are pretty cheap, you probably don't need them, but you can if you want.

danielwiki 1 point 6 months ago

Can you tell me what you think of this build? It would be much appreciated. (I'm new to pc's) http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/tdsJwV

For GAMING(battlefield, dayz etc)

LemonComputers 2 points 6 months ago
  • You don't need an aftermarket card with a locked processor
  • Kingston SSDNow V300 Bait and Switch
  • Why get a GTX 970 when you could get a GTX 1060 6GB for less?
  • The Corsair CX750M is a mediocre power supply, and the SeaSonic G Series 550W is available at a similar price
  • You don't need a sound card

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor $274.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Motherboard Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $180.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $95.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Storage Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $98.99 @ PB Technologies
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $74.74 @ PB Technologies
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB FTW+ GAMING Video Card $549.95 @ Computer Lounge
Case NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case $169.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Power Supply SeaSonic G 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $169.95 @ Computer Lounge
Operating System Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $148.34 @ PB Technologies
Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN722N USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter $20.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Keyboard Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard $187.00 @ 1stWave Technologies
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1966.97
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-22 12:47 NZDT+1300
Tyreathian 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

Go with an i5 6500 and a gtx 1060 instead.

danielwiki 1 point 6 months ago

Do I need a sound card for that PC?

Tyreathian 1 Build 4 points 6 months ago

Motherboards have integrated ones, but you can buy one if you want one of higher quality.

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LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

While an aftermarket CPU cooler can have better cooling performance, you don't exactly need to add a CPU cooler to the parts list since the Intel stock cooler provided with the processor should be sufficient.

Tyreathian 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

How come you went with one stick of RAM instead of 2 sticks of 4GB?

Marko123 1 point 6 months ago

If there are only 2 RAM slots on motherboard, and you have one of eight, you can easily add another stick without replacing any RAM sticks. So if you have 4x2 and you want to upgrade one to 8 you will have to remove one and lose 4GB...

Tyreathian 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

I don't understand what you mean. If I replace the one stick of 8 with two sticks of 4, what exactly am I losing?

shmitty5050 1 point 6 months ago

Marko is saying you lose the option to upgrade without needing to get rid of one of the 4GB sticks. But he's incorrect in saying the board only has 2 slots, it has 4 so knock yourself out. I assume the author chose 1 8GB because it's pretty cheap for 8GB DDR4 RAM.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Probably because single channel memory is/was cheaper. There's nothing bad about single channel memory.

MrBearsyX 1 point 6 months ago

What would be a good CPU Cooler for this?

InvaderGir 1 point 6 months ago

No need for a CPU cooler as the CPU already comes with one, but the CRYORIG H7 is a pretty good cooler.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

The Intel stock cooler provided with the processor should be sufficient. Do you want an aftermarket CPU cooler?

Phantom114 1 point 6 months ago

Newbie question but will you need any case fans for this system? if so what fan would you recommend?

daddy_shammy 1 point 6 months ago

Nah man, since this is just normal i5, and not K (which means it can be overclocked properly), it means that the integrated fans can handle the heat. You do not need another fan to cool it because it is fine as it is... Hope i helped...

daddy_shammy 1 point 6 months ago

Hey all,

1) Does anyone know of any good replacements for this case since i cannot have i shipped to my place...

2) Does anyone know of any good replacements for the RAM (preferably 16GB), because that cannot be shipped to my place either! :(

Thank you for reading all of that... if u did...

DerpyDovahkiin 1 point 6 months ago

I am potentially going to buy this PC but i would like to know, does it have the specs to run games such as Counter Strike Global Offensive and PAYDAY 2 well... thanks

gussanderson 2 points 6 months ago

This would DESTROY CS:GO and also Payday 2.

It's not a modest build. That's just what they have written. The 1060 is a top of the line graphics card, much superior in value, price, and performance to almost everything else on the market, minus the higher end 10-series cards/Titan/980Ti. The i5-6500 is basically the most you'll ever need for gaming. After the 6500, all the other options do not really improve frames for most games. This build is going to be running AAA games in 1080p/1440p at Ultra settings with often 60fps+.

Melonball72 1 point 6 months ago

Now, this is what I wanted to hear..

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

It's not a modest build. That's just what they have written.

That's debatable.

The 1060 is a top of the line graphics card, much superior in value, price, and performance to almost everything else on the market, minus the higher end 10-series cards/Titan/980Ti.

It's not really a "top of the line" graphics card. What about the RX 480?

The i5-6500 is basically the most you'll ever need for gaming. After the 6500, all the other options do not really improve frames for most games. This build is going to be running AAA games in 1080p/1440p at Ultra settings with often 60fps+.

That's not true. You can still get performance improvements in games past an i5-6500.

gussanderson 1 point 6 months ago

It completely is a top of the line.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+1060&id=3548 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+RX+480&id=3533

It can play AAA titles in highest settings with 60fps+ at 1080p and close to that at 1440p. The RX480 is very similar, in price, performance, and value. However, the 1060 is better right now. The future may change that, or Vulkan may not catch on. Either way, both are great value but I would put the 1060, especially the 3GB version, as the best value card on the market.

Yes, the i7-6700k is a very powerful CPU. It will definitely improve frame rates in some CPU-intensive games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKb9beFT730

This comparison shows that often, the i5-6500 is only 2-5 frames behind. In more CPU intensive games, this will definitely change, but not by much. In editing, I'm sure that the difference becomes more visible, but for gaming, the i5-6500 is the one of the best value CPUs other than the i3-6100. This is because it hits a sweet spot of low cost and great performance.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

It completely is a top of the line.

Uhh you do know there are cards that completely murder it and then mutilate it right like the GTX 1070, GTX 1080, Fury X, and the Titan XP. Its a far cry from being the top of the line. Also videocardbenchmark is a horrible site that is heavily biased against AMD cards.

It can play AAA titles in highest settings with 60fps+ at 1080p and close to that at 1440p.

1080P isn't the latest and greatest anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UISTSZ-fx_8

It usually gets around 45FPS on max settings at 1440P, not what I would call close to 60 since it is a 25% difference.

This comparison shows that often, the i5-6500 is only 2-5 frames behind. In more CPU intensive games, this will definitely change, but not by much.

That test is in non CPU demanding areas i.e not what most people will experience during situations like multiplayer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrfTcXQlsbs

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Also videocardbenchmark is a horrible site that is heavily biased against AMD cards.

Wow, that's yet another benchmark site biased against AMD. I still remember CPUBoss and GPUBoss.

chibchub 1 point 6 months ago

If I subbed in the Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 mobo, would that still work? Would it need a fan? I'm leery about getting a ASRock. I've had problems with them in the past.

LuckyGaming 1 point 6 months ago

try making a FULL setup for just $750

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Like with peripherals, OS, and such?

LuckyGaming 1 point 6 months ago

monitor keyboard mouse and headset or speakers

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Are you able to make a full setup with all of those peripherals for $750?

LuckyGaming 1 point 6 months ago

doesnt have to be something like i7 or 1080

LuckyGaming 1 point 6 months ago

ill try to make on

LuckyGaming 1 point 6 months ago

i made it a little over budget by $30 cuz of the OS you just need a speaker or headset keyboard monitor and mouse

SealGuy 1 point 6 months ago

Can this build run Rainbow six Siege?

gussanderson 1 point 6 months ago

Of course. Highest settings with 60fps+ in 1080p/1440p.

shmitty5050 1 point 6 months ago

I have a few 500GB HDDs laying around from obsolete laptops. Would my performance be affected if I skip the 2TB drive and use multiple 500GBs? (I still plan on getting a small SSD for the OS and games with long loading times)

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Yes because the 500 GB HDDs from obsolete laptops are older than the current HDDs used in this build guide and therefore would be slower.

shmitty5050 1 point 6 months ago

I more meant in the sense that the motherboard would have more ports being used and might be overloaded (I'm not overly familiar with what makes one motherboard better than another other as long as all parts are compatible and not bottlenecked due to the board). Even with older 5400rpm HDDs, I would imagine internet speed would bottleneck downloading/uploading online, USB would bottleneck transferring to/from other devices, so all that's left is the PC reading whatever it is currently using. Other than gaming, the computer will mostly be used for typical internet browsing and movies so I wouldn't think it'd be a problem.

I guess I'll rephrase my question. Will using multiple ports for 3 or 4 smaller hard drives affect read/write speed over a single large hard drive (all else equal)? Other than playing games, is there anything that would cause a 5400rpm SATA 3 drive to be noticeably slower than a 7200rpm SATA 6 (OS and frequently used applications will be installed on SSD)?

captaincall 1 point 6 months ago

Would the gigabyte GV-RX480D5-8GD-B rx480 be a better buy for this build for the same price as the 1060?

shmitty5050 2 points 6 months ago

The difference isn't overly significant. 1060s are slightly better now but 480s will likely be a little better once DX12 becomes the norm.

captaincall 1 point 6 months ago

cool. I was thinking the 480 would age better than the 1060, so that is why I chose it. thanks!

electro791 1 point 6 months ago

Will this computer be able to run WOW on ultra?(i know.... a noob question :P)

shmitty5050 1 point 6 months ago

That's more of a Google question. There are sites called system requirements lab and logical increments that should help you out.

Tafs 1 point 6 months ago

What would be the smallest case this could fit in as I have limited desk space? Thanks in Advance

mz10j 1 point 6 months ago

So I am thinking of finally making the leap from console gaming to PC gaming this holiday season. My goal is to get a PC capable of beating modern consoles at graphics and frame rate, run mods in games like Fallout or Skyrim, and do all of that on a bigger screen since I still plan on plugging the PC into a television instead of a monitor. However, VR is something I am not at all interested in. Finally, the build above is about my price range, although I could go a bit higher if absolutely necessary. Given those facts, I have three questions:

  1. Does this build meet these purposes, or is there a way to optimize for my listed needs?
  2. Would this build allow me to use a controller wirelessly, Xbone or PS4?
  3. Would Black Friday be a good time to start trying to pick up various parts on sale?

As someone who has been considering breaking into the PC gaming scene for a while, I want to make sure I do it right. Therefore, I wanted to check with you guys first. Thank you for any help. Also, anything else you can think of I should know, feel free.

shmitty5050 1 point 6 months ago

This build will definitely beat out consoles. I wouldn't think there are many titles it can't run 1080p at 60 fps. As for mods, it really depends on what you plan on doing. Graphics mods can get pretty intense and as for gameplay mods, if there are a lot more objects to render than the game is meant for, a 1060 might struggle.

I can't speak for current gen controllers since I've never done it but Xbox 360 and PS3 controllers are easy to set up. You can find free drivers online for wired connections, wireless would require a dongle. Check out amazon for those.

I'd definitely check out major sites on black Friday but since this website finds the lowest available price at any time I can't imagine the savings will be too significant anyway.

mz10j 1 point 6 months ago

Sounds good. Thanks for the input. I appreciate it.

roastmytoast 1 point 6 months ago

Would anyone know the specs be for the following games on this build? battlefront, GTA 5, NBA 2k17, Skyrim or oblivion.

gussanderson 1 point 6 months ago

Can't you Google this?

It would easily destroy all those games with 60fps+ on highest settings in 1080p/1440p.

zandakar68 1 point 6 months ago

I'm looking for pc for my son to play WoW. Will this setup run it in ultra?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 6 months ago

Without issue.

lazylion27 1 point 6 months ago

I'm looking to play and stream would this build be fine ? Also could i change the mid tower case or was there a reason that you have that case ?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

Also could i change the mid tower case or was there a reason that you have that case ?

You can change the case as long as the case is good and compatible.

lazylion27 1 point 6 months ago

Ok thanks

Troyboy 1 point 6 months ago

Question, I'm new to building PCs. Say if I buy everything on this list will that be all I need? or will i have to buy other peripherals like sound cards and wireless cards etc?

gussanderson 1 point 6 months ago

Not a sound card, but unless the motherboard has a WiFi chip (it probably doesn't as that is usually included in the name of the mobo), then you'll need a cheap network adaptor.

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

You will need to purchase peripherals to use your computer, but you don't need a sound card unless you want to do high end sound stuff.

Glebano 1 point 6 months ago

Hi,I am new to this site and computer building altogether.I have modified the parts list a little,by adding memory and reducing SSD size and changing the motherboard to a cheaper one,to stay in the price category.My main use will be computer for office use,we mostly use internet,so anything will really do,and Battlefield 1 gaming.Since I am a real noob at this and don’t know what the heck I am doing,I though it would be a good idea to increase memory size to 16gb,will I need that,or should I just stick to the original configuration in this parts list.I saved my config. under"my fist build".

Retrrro 1 point 6 months ago

Hi I am new to pc gaming, would this be a good pc to play games like Black ops 3, GTA v mods, Gmod, and cs go? Also what knd of monitor would go good with this? Im looking for dual monitors btw. Would the Acer G246HL 24 inch be a good dual monitor for this type of a computer?

shmitty5050 2 points 6 months ago

Please don't tell me you want dual monitors for gaming.

LemonComputers 0 points 6 months ago

What do you not like about dual monitors?

shmitty5050 2 points 6 months ago

Most people agree two screens isn't ideal for gaming. If you want more than a standard monitor you should go for ultra wide or three monitors. Having the display spliced right down the middle is pretty hard to ignore.

joshencounter 1 point 6 months ago

Will this be VR compatible?

MJarvis 1 point 6 months ago

Would this build be capable of streaming 1080p games from PS4 through an el gato or other capture card?

Ovicron 1 point 6 months ago

I am supposed to buy the iphone 7+ which is $989... WHAT THE HELL? I totally forgot i needed a pc and i was here going to waste thousand dollars on a phone. I wanna buy a gaming pc and this seems right. I am 16 and all my money are being paid by my parents, how can i buy all these parts? Am I able to get all these parts prebuilt, since I have literally no idea how to make a pc. Also one last thing, do I have to buy each of these parts individually?

LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

???

What about the the $989 iPhone 7 wasting thousands of dollars and a PC? I don't understand, and can't tell if this is a troll or not.

You can purchase the parts by clicking the blue "Buy" button next to each part on the list which will take you to a retailer.

If you don't know how to assemble a PC yourself, you can either take a look at some "how-to" PC building guides or pay someone else to assemble the PC for you.

Ovicron 1 point 6 months ago

Oh yeah i got that. If i buy the part individually from different websites will they all come exactly on same time?

LemonComputers 1 point 5 months ago

Shipping time/speed varies.

Ezekial82 1 point 5 months ago

Hey guys, I'm looking to see what you guys would add if you needed this comp to be wireless capability. Also i'm primarily using it to play LoL and WoW on ultra settings so I'm not sure if its' over kill?

david3228 1 point 5 months ago

Hi, I am wondering EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply instead of the SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply. Would i still have enough power to run all parts at maximum efficiency?

TLDR: Can I save a few dimes by using EVGA 500B?

Jalouu 1 point 5 months ago

Can I play FPS Games on a 144hz Monitor in 1080p, with over 144FPS?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 2 points 5 months ago

Yep

dradamawsome 1 point 5 months ago

z170 is only 10-20$ away from h170 and makes it upgradable to K-processor along with it being better built, so z170 much better idea for potential upgradability

Jack007 1 point 5 months ago

Hello, would you recommend this build to play the latest version of WoW? Also, it doesn't seem to include WiFi or NIC card, is there a good gaming build already complete with everything needed to play games online?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

The machine will work with ethernet. For a wireless connection you would need to add an adapter. This part list will have zero issues with WoW.

QDBuild1 1 point 5 months ago

Hey, seriously thinking of this build. Would like to add an optical drive. Description states 6 SATAs, purchaser mentions 2. Does it have 6 and can I add optical drive as it is? Also, any suggestions on an inexpensive bd/DVD/cd RW that is compat?

QDBuild1 1 point 5 months ago

Still, seriously thinking of this build. Would like to add an optical drive. Description states 6 SATAs, purchaser mentions 2. Does it have 6 and can I add optical drive as it is? Also, any suggestions on an inexpensive bd/DVD/cd RW that is compat?

TRG 1 point 5 months ago

So, I'm very new to building computers, but I can navigate my way around one if I needed to. I'm just wondering, do you really need both of the storage devices? I mean you have the RAM, and you would have the 2TB if you got the Hitachi Ultrastar. So do you also need to get the AMD? I'm still new to this so I don't know. Thanks!

Henrik_Pont 1 point 5 months ago

It is my first time building a computer so any tips on how to make this build better without a huge price increase or make it cheaper with about the same performance would be very much appreciated.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9KgMwV

Icuonuez 1 point 5 months ago

Okay, so I purchased this exact build. My problem is, I can't get my 1060 to work properly. I've tried everything I can think of, from re-seating it to changing out power cables. When I turn the tower on, the fan attempts to spin every few seconds, but ends up stopping every time. Power is going to everything else correctly. I'm out of ideas as to what to do, and I'm starting to think that the problem is a faulty GPU. Anyone have any insight?

WirelessCables 1 Build 2 points 5 months ago

See if there's something blocking the fans. You might have a piece of shipping plastic that's stopping the fans. If that doesn't work or you can't find anything, try cleaning the area with compressed air.

When you reseated the card, did you use the same PCI-E slot on the motherboard? That slot could be dead. Try with other PCI-E slots.

Also, it may be bad PCI-E cables. Try with a different PSU, and see if your card acts normally. If not, replace the card. If you have another PC (friend's, co-worker's, or family member's) available, try it on their system to see if it's not the graphics card's fault.

Icuonuez 1 point 5 months ago

I figured out the problem. Now I have a new one. My Hitachi HDD isn't being detected by my motherboard. It sounds like it's attempting to initialize cyclically, but nothing I try makes it detectable. I'm running the H170-Pro motherboard, and I've already updated to the latest BIOS. I made sure the connectors weren't loose. I also connected it to a different computer, which detected it with almost no issues at all.

hbm.6867 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

If you are planning to build this, at the time, b&h has the gtx 1060 6gb gaming x w/ backplate for $208. Pc Part Picker shows it for $238 right now but another $15 mail in rebate brinks it to $208. Keep in mind this is usually about a $290 graphics card.

Malakai00 1 point 5 months ago

Should I get this as my first gaming pc?

matthemstock 1 point 5 months ago

So i've been planning on getting this build fpr a while now but I could really use your guys' help. I need to this to be Wi-fi capable and possibly have a disk drive. I understand the case can't handle a disk drive so could anyone also recommend an alternative case which is also white? The wi-fi is the main priority, I just don't get what makes one better from the other! Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Finally, what display ports does this have (HDMI etc.)? Is it worth waiting till black friday week?

Thanks!

shmitty5050 2 points 5 months ago

If you need WiFi, you'll need a network card. Unless you have very fast internet, your network card should not be the bottle neck as long as you don't cheap out. Most $40 cards should be more than sufficient. But if you plan on using it for online gaming, I would seriously suggest wireless as a last resort as it has much higher latency.

How did you come to understand the case can't handle a disc drive?

The GPU outputs include 1 DVI-D, 1 HDMI, and 3 display ports.

If you click on the items on the parts list you can find specs, compatible parts, etc.

And it's absolutely worth waiting for Black Friday. You're not guaranteed to get deals but you only have to hold off another week to find out.

BurgerNoodles 1 point 5 months ago

Can I replace the GPU with the GTX 1050? I'm planning to build a PC and I really am on a tight budget. I don't know whether or not I have enough to get a GTX 1060 at the moment, so if it comes to a change in my budget can I use the GTX 1050?

shmitty5050 1 point 5 months ago

You could if you're on a tight budget. I'd also consider downgrading to an i3 and getting a smaller SSD if not scrapping it completely. I'm surprised the entry level build guide hasn't been revised to include a 1050 yet.

But keep in mind an i3/1050 build probably won't run most current titles 1080p 60fps in a year or two.

Sesh523 1 point 5 months ago

I'm just wondering I want to buy a computer to run Rust on high graphics, would this be to much or can I go cheaper on a computer?? atm I'm playing on a acer Aspire e 15 have been for the past 9 month.. low graphics would love to play in high. cheers

I'm a noob on pc. trying my best to learn

Nerdict 1 point 5 months ago

So im going to use this exact build to build my first gaming pc and notice it doesn't have a CPU cooler. should i buy one and if so whats a good but cheap one? thanks if anyone could help would be much appreciated.

r3xjm 1 point 5 months ago

So this build can run Bf1 on high/ultra settings at 60 fps? Also, whats the difference between a mini 1060 and a full sized one?

shmitty5050 1 point 5 months ago

Depends on res. The mini fits smaller cases with a very slight performance drop (<5% lower clock speed).

stanton_ab 1 point 5 months ago

Will I need to buy extra screws and mounts etc to make this, or will they come with the motherboard?

mmh137 1 point 5 months ago

Does this have wifi? Sorry for the dumb question but I'm new to this scene.

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

Nope, you would need to add an adapter.

TheDarkerKnight 1 point 5 months ago

What about a DAC? Won't you need that?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

That depends entirely on your audio setup.

Sunny.Delete.85 1 point 5 months ago

Does this not need a CPU cooler?

GiovaneLion 1 point 5 months ago

(https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ry23gL) Is this by any chance a good build, its around 1000 dollars if you don't include the monitor. If there are a few things I should change or don't even need for gaming, tell me please. Thanks.

Daredevil106 1 point 5 months ago

I have a question about the Operating System, I noticed you didn't add one to this build. If i'm building a new PC from scratch, will I need to purchase one? Or can I get it free from a PC I currently own?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, you will need to purchase one. You may be able to move an old license but it depends on the version.

jbg29 1 point 5 months ago

FIRST TIME BUILDER: So I was able to purchase every item on this list, however the i5 processor I bought on amazon says it's only going to come with the processor and not the cooler. I think I still need to get the cooler that comes with it (Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO). Or do I not need the cooler for this build? HELP PLEASE!

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

This part number is for the CPU and the cooler. If you get sent a CPU without the cooler please contact Amazon and let them know a seller is providing the wrong product. I have sent a report on the product and made a comment on the seller claiming it is CPU only.

LBarber17 1 point 5 months ago

Why isnt a program like window 10 on the list this is my first time even attempting to build a pc. I have no clue what I am doing.

bigalud 1 point 5 months ago

I'm new to this website, my son wants to build a computer, this looks like it would be good for him and is in my budget. Do I need to buy a monitor for this set up or can I use his T.V. ???

Also I have about another 100 dollars to spend, is there anything on the list above that is worth upgrading or is this a pretty good set up for a modest build. He is a beginner, but I don't want to have to upgrade anything 3 months from now, I would rather now.

Thanks !

shmitty5050 1 point 4 months ago

If the TV had HDMI input it will be fine. TVs typically have a slower response time, but unless he's very passionate about video games he shouldn't mind, and even if he did he could save up to buy a monitor in the near future.

That $100 will need to be spent on an operating system and a keyboard and mouse if you don't have a set already. You can also buy a DVD drive if you think you'll need one and a wireless network card if you need a Wifi connection. Windows 10 activation codes can be found on Amazon fairly cheap, just make sure the seller looks legitimate.

As for future upgrades, this build will run games smoothly for years. After a few years some games won't run on high settings, but you shouldn't need to upgrade for 5-10 years, depending on how fast the technology progresses.

If you're planning to build this yourself I suggest you find a family member or friend who is good with computers to help out. If anything doesn't work properly it's a major headache to troubleshoot if you aren't overly tech savvy.

bigalud 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks very much, I bought everything needed, a friend is going to help build, I wonder if there are any good sites or you tubes that show a build start to finish.

Happy Holidays, AL

RefinedPotato 1 point 5 months ago

Will the PC work with a different memory type. The motherboard takes DDR4-2133. But the RAM is DDR4-2400. SOOO will it or not???

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

The memory will simply run at 2133.

RefinedPotato 1 point 5 months ago

So it'll run slower than 2400??

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

Yes, but the difference will not be noticeable in anything outside of benchmarks.

RefinedPotato 1 point 4 months ago

OK thank you.

zharif 1 point 4 months ago

is it okay if i use corsair H80i cooling system?

Phantom114 1 point 4 months ago

I'm new to this website and whenever I check on this build the parts will change a lot and sometimes go back to ones that where there previously, sometimes I will even refresh the page and they will be different. Is this a feature of the website; or is it just the submitter updating the build a lot? I don't know.

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

The build guides use parametric filters which automatically update to the lowest priced products given a specific set of filters/specs.

poodlecorp 1 point 4 months ago

Overpowered motherboard.

Pardaleco 1 point 4 months ago

Does it have to be the MINI GTX 1060? Or can it be a the normal one?

And would you recommend this build for a complete newcomer in regards of custom pcs?

kudos2u 1 point 4 months ago

Pardaleco,

Does it have to be the MINI GTX 1060? Or can it be a the normal one?

Dude, you aren't forced to buy anything. Yes, it can be any GTX 1060 as long as it meets the physical dimension standard. This case supports all 1060s, as it has a lot of room.

brk42968 1 point 4 months ago

I need to know if this build will be sufficient for the following:

-Playing league while having a windows 10 VM open

-Having one windows 10, and one windows server 2012 open on-top of the base OS (win10), and not sluggish

Also, would it be safe to run the CPU near max constantly over night/at work without additional cooling?

brk42968 1 point 4 months ago

and how about streaming a game like league?

niels99 1 point 4 months ago

i'm thinking about building this pc but i don't see a cooler included. Do i have to buy one if so, wich is recommended for this computer?

TeddyLopez 1 point 4 months ago

can I add more another gtx 1060 video card?

manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

The 1060 is not SLI-capable.

brenfong00 1 point 4 months ago

Sorry I'm new to pc building, I wanted to know if I could use the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card instead of the mini.

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LemonComputers 1 point 6 months ago

No, because even if the RAM's clock speed were to be higher than that of the motherboard support, the motherboard would just downclock the RAM to the point of compatibility. No problem.

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manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 2 points 6 months ago

As we do more and more builds/guides it becomes harder to find original cases. This seems like a very reasonably priced case for all the features it provides and I'd love to see more builders give it a chance.

rhali8 2 Builds 5 points 6 months ago

Hear that guys? Use the case and you've got yourself a free feature

I said nothing .-.

WirelessCables 1 Build 1 point 6 months ago

-.-

Why did you say that?

StarBlazer457 1 point 5 months ago

Lol. I wish I noticed this eariler. Lol, Nice one! +1

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manirelli staff submitter 7 Builds 2 points 6 months ago

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor 8W - 65W
MSI H170A PC Mate ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 17W - 70W
Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory 5W - 5W
Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
GALAX GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OC Video Card 30W - 120W
Total: 66W - 290W