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Excellent AMD Gaming Build

by manirelli

Description

CPU/CPU Cooler

For the Excellent AMD Gaming Build build we selected the AMD Ryzen 5 2600 as our processor. The stock cooler is more than capable for regular usage as well as minor overclocks.

Motherboard

To allow overclocking on the processor, we set the parametric filters for X470 ATX motherboards that support up to 64GB of DDR4 memory, multiple expansion cards, and crossfire or SLI functionality.

Memory

With our increased budget we selected 16GB of RAM. The parametric filter finds the best price on 16GB kits of memory that are within AMD’s recommended specifications from DDR4-2666 to DDR4-3200. At the current time, using memory rated over 3200mhz is not advised without doing extra research as DIMM support can be hit or miss. AMD is working on releasing additional BIOS updates to add better compatibility for higher frequency memory.

Storage

Using the parametric filters this build will incorporate an SSD with at least 480GB of space and a minimum 2TB of mechanical storage at 7200rpm.

GPU

On a budget of roughly 1250 dollars we decided to go with an excellent graphic card. The Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 TI is one of the single best cards on the market right now. At 1080p or even 1440p you will not have any problems with AAA games and the 1070 TI is perfectly suited for VR gaming as well. When using a 1070 TI you should consider stepping up your monitor to a 120/144hz screen for the best gaming experience.

Case

All of our components are housed in the Corsair Carbide Series 275R. This case has a nice black finish, a large tempered glass side panel window, power supply shroud, room for enthusiast CPU coolers, watercooling radiators, two pre-installed case fans, and front panel USB3.0.

PSU

For our power supply, we're using a parametric selection of well-reviewed fully and semi-modular units, all of which are 80+ Gold certified, have two EPS cables, and provide more than enough power for this system while at stock clocks or overclocking.

Click here to see the Intel version of this build guide

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: No issues/incompatibilities found.

Estimated Wattage: 359W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $245.00 $245.00 Centre Com Buy
Motherboard
From parametric filter
  • Form Factor: ATX
  • Chipset: AMD X470
  • RAM Slots: 4 - 16
$235.00 $235.00 PCCaseGear Buy
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Speed: DDR4-2666, DDR4-2800, DDR4-2933, DDR4-3000, DDR4-3200
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
$239.00 $239.00 IJK Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 480GB - 12TB
  • Type: SSD
$118.00 $118.00 Mwave Australia Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 3TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$121.49 Free two-day shipping with Amazon Prime $121.49 Amazon Australia Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
$639.00 $639.00 Shopping Express Buy
Case $102.00 $102.00 Shopping Express Buy
Power Supply $172.00 $172.00 Amazon Australia Buy
Total: $1871.49
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Comments Sorted by:

scottandrewj 18 points 1 month ago

I just bought all the components for this build and will give everyone updates!

OneofThree 8 points 1 month ago

im interested in this build, let us know how it goes!

lvjohn2002 3 points 1 month ago

Awesome would like to hear your views on this build I am also thinking of building this pc.

battman91 2 points 1 month ago

how you getting on? any updates?

danjo03 2 points 9 days ago

how did it go

studerino 1 point 1 month ago

So how did it go? Does it work?

SaltAlts 1 point 1 month ago

parts don't ship it 9 days most likely xd I'm sure they will update us soon.

Lebigduck 2 points 1 month ago

What monitor are you using with it?

carson.whitebread 1 point 1 month ago

how is the build?

DrModMan 1 point 2 days ago

How is it going>?

DucoD 6 points 2 months ago

Nice build!

BadgerFiend 6 points 2 months ago

Nice build but that RAM is not on the supported memory list which would make me very hesitant to buy considering that these mobo's are so new. Just my 2 cents, mind you.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 18 points 2 months ago

The QVL is only a small subset of compatible memory that the motherboard manufacturer has tested with their board. It is not all-inclusive and using the specs we have on the parametric filter you should not have any issues.

BadgerFiend 1 point 2 months ago

True. This is simply down to my experiences buying RAM that was not on the compatibility list for my Ryzen 1700 B350f Strix build. I couldn't get near the specified 3000MHz on my Team Dark which is currently sitting at 2600. YMMV I guess

Ichi_Oni 2 points 2 months ago

BIOS updates should be able to fix your problem. The AGESA 1.0.0.6 just started rolling out to motherboards a couple of months ago, and there is already a 6a version too.

MonstaComputers 6 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

i've been running team rgb's 3200mhz ram set at 3200 stable with a +1ghz overclock, though anything over that and i get instability issues even though the board itself supports those speeds. It's more an architecture limit than a thermal limit with ryzen.

Wild7ceo 1 point 3 days ago

I have the single 16gb 2400mHz team t-force vulcan in my rig (r7 1700, asus b350-f, rx580) and I have it OC'd to 2666mHz with no issues. It isnt on the QVL list but it works great! I am considering getting another stick of ram and running 32gb dual channel. Or i might just upgrade the speeds and keep the system at 16gb.

Guess what I am getting at is that, just because it isnt on the QVL list doesnt mean it wont work.

MikeyBeHappy 2 points 1 month ago

so apparently may have built this. but i have a RAM problem with this exact build (win 10 memory troubleshoot reports "hardware problem", got stuck for couple hours, talked to win 10 person for a while, both believed that it's a RAM problem)... help?

pchardcoreuser 1 Build 3 points 1 month ago

send the RAM to warranty

kriskamweru 4 points 2 months ago

I have one question Considering current market prices, 1080s tend to be about only 50 bucks more. I found the 8GB EVGA OC for example, for 50 more than the 1070Tis Isn't that just the better option?

I'm new to this though, so I don't really know

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 7 points 2 months ago

That is up to you. You can always add more and more to a build. For the excellent guides we tried to target $1250 USD.

Camo5_ 1 point 1 month ago

How come you guys don't take into account cost of OS into the build?

droem 1 point 11 days ago

This is because some people rather use Linux instead of Windows. Sometimes people already have a copy of Windows on hand, so there is no point in doing that.

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manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 4 points 25 days ago

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DGAF_AK87 4 points 2 months ago

I actually second this comment. $50 more on the budget for a better card is very reasonable. Especially with how screwed the market is currently.

PrivatePengu 14 points 2 months ago

I don't second this. The 1070 TI and 1080 are very equal in performance, and you can even overclock the 1070 TI to some degree which makes it within the same range of performance as a stock 1080. Nvidia even told 1070 TI manufacturers to not factory overclock to give the 1080 more popularity. So the 1070 TI is probably good enough for a build at this price.

Sir2Step 2 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

My words exactly.

Avexus02 10 points 1 month ago

you could just y'know... overclock the 1080 so it's not as weak as an overclocked 1070 ti...

FiveSquared25 1 point 19 days ago

Or save 50 bucks.

colsonyoung 3 points 2 months ago

I'm confused... I'm new to this too. What is better about the 1080? Is it because of the memory? The benchmark speeds are very similar (1080 is a little lower, in fact)

droem 3 points 1 month ago

GTX 1080 is really aimed for mid range 4k gaming and High-end VR gaming while the 1070 Ti is for high-end 1440p gaming and mid-range VR gaming. But both are very close in power.

jason.mcsherry 2 points 2 months ago

http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/compare?hardwareType=gpu

This website allows you to compare 2 cards with one another. A 1070 ti and a 1080 are pretty similar in performance so its pretty much up to you to decide. Im personally in the process of building my own PC and I had the same question. Personally im going to go with the 1080 just because im going for longevity, but its entirely up to you.

jetblast 1 point 1 month ago

The is quite a big difference between the "ti" versions of the cards and the non-ti cards. In very general terms the ti versions use the hardware from the 1080, 1070, etc. and the logic and methods that the Quadro boards use, and that's a lot more efficient in some tasks making them better in some ways. There's a good video on Youtube - Linus Tech Tips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIOoNuUzFjQ&t=410s

pcp1989 1 Build 0 points 1 month ago

o ya bro if you have another 50 bucks to throw down and can find a 1080 then ya def go for it. but if $1200-1250 is your budget then this a very good build. an ya sure you could cut donw on a few of the parts to squeeze in the 1080 too. honestly though getting a 2nd gen ryzen i wouldnt get anything other then an x470 and that looks to be about bottom dollar for a good board. you could cut out the ssd card to afford that 1080 but i wouldn't do that either. ya sure your game play will be a little bit better but that ssd is gonna give your system an all around nice performance boost that i personally would not compromise on for a few more frames but gaming is about half of my pc life so idk maybe you yourself would be happy with that trade off. all in all though this is a nice build, just wish i could of got something more like this back in february but o well.

Jyrone 0 points 1 month ago

For a $50 difference, I would just go with a 1080. But if you were to buy a 1070Ti and if you overclocked it, you would almost get the performance of a 1080. If a 1080 costs more than $50 more, I wouldn't do it, the performance gain would not be worth the price.

tbice15 3 points 2 months ago

Looking to build something very similar to this. Any advice on monitors with this build that will take advantage of it but not break the bank too bad?

illegalmod 1 Build 2 points 14 days ago

dell 27" 2k 144hz is what I have. Love it. It's about $450.

alexsack 1 point 2 months ago

I second this question

AG_PEPPER 2 points 1 month ago

The Dell S2417dg is a 144hz 1440p moniter with G-Sync. It's by far the cheapest option with these three things.

Karokiyu 1 point 1 month ago

That monitor is TN though; even though it's a dell monitor you're still giving up some color prettiness for the refresh rate

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

I second that, because its what I have. =)

TheReclaimerRx7 1 Build 2 points 2 months ago

Excellent amd /nvidia build *

lge01 1 Build 6 points 2 months ago

u mean amvidia ;)???

rogdog56 2 points 2 months ago

nice, I love seeing this builds

JP0875 2 points 2 months ago

Would I be able to run any game that I’d like on this build? I’ve never built a pc but I really like this and I’m thinking about jumping I. Also, is there any way to rate the build difficulty of this? Is this okay for a beginner?

Leigh42 13 points 2 months ago

This particular build should play most games currently on the market at Max detail with 100+ fps for 1080p resolution. At 1440p resolution this card should handle (most) any game on the market at Max (or Very High) detail with at least 60 fps. I think it's very much a "sweet spot" build, building something that could really overpower this would require a much larger budget. Conversely, if you tried to save a couple of hundred dollars (say by dropping the graphics card to a 1060), you would basically halve it's capability for only a 15% cost saving. It's biggest limitation is probably it wouldn't cut it for gaming at 4k resolution, but if you're building your first computer I doubt that's you.

As far as building goes, there's nothing especially difficult about this particular build, it's quite standard. Building computers isn't tricky (for a conventional setup like this) if you use a bit of common sense. For the most part the components can only plug into one place, in one orientation. Watch a couple of YT vids and you'll quickly see what the steps are. The most important thing is to remember not to force anything, if something's hard to get in, stop and take stock what you're doing. If you remember that and take your time, it's hard to go too wrong.

JP0875 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks man, this helped a lot.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

This is legit.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

I have a build similar to this, and I can tell you yes, you can run anything at max settings @ 1080p.

You will begin to run into issues when playing at higher resolutions (4k with max settings). High settings no problem.

I can confirm that I can run everything at 2k resolution/ max settings @ 60-90fps. (pubg -GTAV-Far Cry 5)

stefitigar 2 points 2 months ago

Hi, thanks for the build looks awesome! Is there any link you can provide for a tutorial on how to assemble this? Planning to build for the first time this weekend. Thanks!

DezAster 3 points 2 months ago

https://youtu.be/IhX0fOUYd8Q Hopefully I don’t get in trouble for links

stefitigar 1 point 2 months ago

Thanks!

DezAster 1 point 2 months ago

There are tutuorials for beginners on how to build pc on BitWit Kyle’s YouTube, let me find a link

UndeadFox 2 points 2 months ago

are all those the parts u need or do u have to add more stuff cause i been thinking about building a pc but i never got around to fully doing it so im a new to this stuff

Zerenfeir 3 points 2 months ago

I believe your going to need a monitor and an operating system and for the monitor it should be higher than 60hz like what was said in this guides part description. You will need a philips screwdriver for mostly the whole build. Also an anti static wrist strap or anti static mat if you want to be extra careful look online for more info and everything else should come with the package if I’m correct am new to this stuff too and I’m learning this stuff I’m pretty sure someone is going to give a way more professional response than mine. I’m not sure if this comes with wifi so you might need a wifi USB port.

UndeadFox 3 points 2 months ago

thank u for telling me this it was a lot of help

UndeadFox 1 point 2 months ago

will a wifi usb adapter work

Zerenfeir 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah I meant to say that sorry

Barrca 2 points 2 months ago

I am new to building, in fact this would be my first build. Would it be worth it to upgrade to the Ryzen 7 or is there not a huge difference between the two. Also, does this include a cooling system or would I have to work that out for myself.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

It depends what you are going to use the system for. If you have the money, then why not. The ryzen 7 will perform better. I would suggest looking up benchmarks and to judge for yourself. And the CPU already comes with a cooler so you dont need to buy one yourself. This benchmark for example.

Hoodrats 2 points 1 month ago

If I wanted to replace the video card with an equivalent or better from AMD to make use of a Free Sync monitor, what would be the best choice?

Thanks

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

vega 56

click71 1 point 1 month ago

I know you want equivilent or better but Asus's ROG strix RX 580 is a good choice for 1080p 60fps in my opinion. AMD's GPU tend to have higher watt usage than NVIDIA's so having this GPU will definitely give you benefits for cooling.

But like lobster said, Vega 56 or Vega 64 would guarantee you a full advantage of AMD's Freesync technology. Just go with Asus's version, they make the best variants

Booperdooper32 1 point 20 days ago

Or you know.. just don’t use a amd card. NVIDIA Cards are the best in the market at the moment. 1080P 60 FPS wasn’t the exact preset here anyway and a 1070ti is capable of 100 FPS or more on most games.

droem 1 point 9 days ago

But it all comes down to price to performance and your needs of course. There is no best.

Booperdooper32 1 point 9 days ago

I’m not a fanboy to either side as that wouldn’t make sense but NVIDIA GPU’s are the best in terms of price and performance compared to AMD GPU’s.

droem 1 point 9 days ago

Sometimes.

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Booperdooper32 1 point 9 days ago

This is a comment section. People are going to have different opinions and everyone here is allowed to express their opinion.

chadbrochills87 2 points 1 month ago

If I switch out the motherboard for a Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard and the memory for a Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory would I run into any issues with the build? The compatibility looks fine and I don't plan on overclocking. I switched out both parts primarily because I am going for a white/grey color palette. Both the MOBO and Memory look similar in specs to the MOBO and memory for this build.

PCBuilderNewbie_2.0 2 points 1 month ago

Could I swap out the Ryzen 5 for a Ryzen 7 2700x. Is it possible

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

yes no problem! the motherboard is compatible

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

My build is similar to this one, and I used the Ryzen 7 2700.

Morganku 2 points 23 days ago

Does anyone have any good recommendations for a monitor?

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

Dell 27" 2k 144hz. Check my build.

Calibraptor 2 points 18 days ago

I just purchased all the parts for this build yesterday. Can't wait for everything to get here! I'm a complete newbie to PC building so if anybody has some advice I'd really appreciate it!

ODking 1 point 15 days ago

Nice! Tell us how it worked out!

Calibraptor 2 points 13 days ago

Will do! Waiting on the motherboard, power supply, and RAM to arrive at the moment.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

If you stick to the build videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q&t=745s

You'll be fine. Just be careful with the parts

Calibraptor 1 point 11 days ago

I've been watching quite a few build videos in preparation, I've actually watched the one you're recommending a couple of times.

Everything has arrived except the motherboard, which will likely take a couple of weeks to arrive due to being out of stock when I ordered it.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

Alright :D You could always cancel that one and get a different one if your impatient ;)

Booperdooper32 1 point 9 days ago

This is a good guide for sure very similar to the parts list here. Already watched it 3 times.

r8staroflucis 1 point 2 months ago

kewl

ArcticWolf_ 1 point 2 months ago

Wow, thanks for designing my new PC for me XD

SSTRA 1 point 2 months ago

Do you think I could replace the mother board with the ASRock Fatal1ty X370 GAMING X for a second graphics card or would this not really work with the other stuff. Would I need More cooling as well, for the addition of the second graphics card? Also would all this be able to fit inside my current Fractal Design Focus G Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, or do i need a bigger one? sorry for all the questions I am very new to this :P

SSTRA 1 point 2 months ago

I currently have a EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti, SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W ATX12V, AMD RYZEN 5 1600 6-Core 3.2 GHz, and G.SKILL Aegis 8GB, but want to add a another graphics card. Would I have enough power for this and do I have to get the same card? sorry for the essay :P

PinguOW 2 points 1 month ago

well i have heard you can mess with bios or something to unlock sli not 100% sure tho

macetotheface 1 point 1 month ago

In theory you can, but it won't work on most games as you have to use a "test" version of Windows which doesn't work with games that have anti-cheat stuff. The old adage of buying the strongest single card you can is still the best advice as SLI/Crossfire is becoming less and less supported.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

So you already have a system with a 1050 Ti and you wan't to add a second GPU? well that won't work. The 1050 Ti does NOT support SLI. Only Gtx 1070 or higher support SLI. If you want more gaming performance I would advise you to swap out the GPU entirely and add another 8GB of memory.

SSTRA 1 point 2 months ago

I think I might just get a 1080 or a ti and skip the SLI, Thanks though!

droem 1 point 11 days ago

The GTX 1050, 1050 Ti and 1060 (3GB and 6GB) Does not officially support SLI.

matteow101 -2 points 2 months ago

depends on the graphics card. but anything under a 1080 should be fine. I would get the 1060 6gb. It's a great value and fast, probably the best for gaming under 250$.

SSTRA 1 point 2 months ago

I think I might just skip the motherboard and get more ram and a better single card, thanks though!

BurntToast123 1 point 2 months ago

I am new to this so I need some clarafication. I know that pc's need fans and stuff and it doesnt have a fan on here. will i need to get a fan separatley or does it have a cooling system in the GPU or something. idk i just want to know becuase i am planning to make this.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

The CPU comes with a cooler included and the GPU already has fans on it. Seems like the 275r has already an exhaust and intake fan. So in that case you'll be ok. You don't need to byu additional fans ;)

BurntToast123 1 point 2 months ago

ok thank you.

pchardcoreuser 1 Build -5 points 2 months ago

yeah but the cpu comes with pretty bad cooler so you might update if you got 20-40$ more money?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

no.. the stock cooler from AMD is actually good enough if you run the CPU at stock speeds

lge01 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

You can actually overclock a bit (as in 100 MHz) with the stock cooler. Value for the money FTW :)

pchardcoreuser 1 Build 0 points 2 months ago

but if you overclock get better cooler and if you dot overclock then the cooler is fine but still the cooler in the 2600 is downgrade from the 1600 cooler

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

yeah. idk why 2600 only has wraith stealth. it runs really hot on that.

droem 1 point 11 days ago

are you sure about that?

click71 1 point 1 month ago

The stock cooler does its job well when you run the cpu without overclocking

droem 1 point 11 days ago

This is a AMD build. I think you should of said this on the Intel build guide.

bart.rogers 1 point 2 months ago

How does this stack up to the intel gaming rig for roughly the same price?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

probably similar performance.. in gaming the intel will probably pull ahead but in workloads this will probably beat the i5 since it has SMT

Jigs306 1 point 2 months ago

Would a 1070 be a better choice for 1080p on a 144hz monitor?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

the 1070 Ti is more powerful than a 1070 ;)

Jigs306 1 point 2 months ago

Well yeah but I'm debating on what resolution would be most appropriate. Would the ti consistently stay above 60 fps at 1440p?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

a 1070 Ti? yeah I think so..

_Calvin_ 1 point 2 months ago

would it be alright to go for a 1060 or would I benefit more from the 1070 ti?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

If you are dropping all the way down to a 1060 I would check out our Modest guides instead.

_Calvin_ 1 point 2 months ago

thanks!

hangman522 1 point 2 months ago

How good is this build for streaming?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

I would recommend swapping the 2600 out with a 2700 but otherwise this is really good for streaming

Just_Zino 1 point 2 months ago

I'm new to this things, but where is the power supply ?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

the corsair txm one

thekillingbear@gmail.com 1 point 2 months ago

When you said the stock cooler is more than capable for regular usage. Does that mean if you are doing something like a high level gaming then you would need another cooler?

gdonns17 2 points 2 months ago

No, the creator of this guide is referring more specifically to overclocking - which is irregular and experienced use. Heavy gaming - even at full load - will be fine with the stock cooler, especially because the current optimization of games puts most of the load on the gpu and not the cpu. One of the only exceptions to that rule is Assassin's Creed III, which can still run horribly six years later because it tries to do everything on the cpu and is optimized pretty horribly. However, these components won't even have a problem with that. The ryzen 5 2600 is benchmarked at around 13,000 on passmark, and the cpus that will be bottlenecked by cpu intensive games like ac3 are going to be in the 8,000 - 10,000 range anyway. Of course, that is a little arbitrary as well, since poorly optimized games rely on single core ratings more than overall ratings.

However, the gist is that this system can tackle what you throw at it if you stay within 1080p - 1440p. If you're feeling a little nervous about cooling or are planning to overclock, you can get liquid cooling from corsair and cooler master for somewhere between $50 and $100, depending on your expected need. Even then, a cooler master aftermarket air cooler would be more than sufficient at like $30.

thekillingbear@gmail.com 1 point 2 months ago

I am quite new to PC and stuff like that so i was wondering if i need a case cooler if i overcloaked and could i have put 2 CPU coolers in the same CPU motherboard??

gdonns17 2 points 2 months ago

If you're planning on overclocking, then yeah I would get liquid or aftermarket air cooling. But no, you don't put two on the same cpu, that's impossible since in order for the cooler to work the heat sink needs to cover the entire surface area of the processor, then either spread the heat into cooled liquid inside tubes (usually still cooled by a fan) or spread the heat into a giant heat sink with a fan or two attached to it. That's actually the purpose of thermal paste by the way - which you will have to buy (a tube is like $5) in order to use your aftermarket cooler. The paste, once applied and evenly but thinly spread across the processor, makes sure that the contact between metal to metal is 100%. The crystalline properties of metal make it so that it never is actually "smooth", so it can never by "flat," which it needs to be in this case. If 100% contact between the two isn't met, there can be cooling issues. Look on youtube of how to apply the paste!

gdonns17 2 points 2 months ago

However, I would advise not to get carried away by overclocking, especially if you are a new builder. You can squeeze some extra juice out of processors, but not enough to justify wrecking a processor because you didn't know to go incrementally and stress test for at least 8 hours.

DrModMan 1 point 2 months ago

Hey, im really interested in building this PC because im seriously thinking about a vive set. The only problem is that im super new to it so i have a question, if I buy everything in the part list and it all delivers, is that all i need to build the PC, dont i need certain bolts and screws and tools, and if not, where do i find the certain bolts and screws? also is there a tutorial only of this exact pc building? Thanks for the help whoever replies to me.

gdonns17 7 points 2 months ago

the screws come with the components. Usually the case you buy can give you little pointers. I would advise investing in a static bracelet or mat so you don't shock these components. The stock cooler should come with thermal paste, so don't worry about that for now. First, though, seat the cpu and ram into the motherboard. Then, put on the cooler. Also screw in the standoffs into the case. With the main system fully assembled, lower it into your case and screw in (typically) 8 screws that come with the motherboard / case (you'll definitely have a few extra) into the standoffs. Do NOT screw any screw touching a motherboard tightly. It can bend circuits, and if you strip a screw, you're ****** because you can't as easily drill through the screw like you can in carpentry. Then put in your psu. The manual will probably prefer that you put it in fan facing down. Once that's in, spend a good amount of time connecting the wires but concealing them in the back of the case. Clumps of wires over components can hurt airflow for fans, yes, but mostly it just looks presentable to take the time for cable management. The cables you have to worry about most are the cpu power, the atx power, the power button/leds and the fan connectors to the board. You can't really miss anything because each type of connector can only fit one place. The only time you may be confused is the one-pin power connectors, and in that case just pull up a diagram of that 16-pin connector to see where each one-pin goes. The internal usb headers are pretty easy to figure out. Just pay attention which way you put them in because they only go one way and if you bend the pins, that's on you. You won't get a reimbursement and it's difficult to bend them back with plyers without snapping them off. Once you feel comfortable that all wires are in and cleared sufficiently from sight in a neat manner, you can then seat the gpu and the storage devices. The storage devices, let's do first. They usually have a rack; for hdd, they usually fit inside clips and slide right in. For ssd, there may be a special bracket on the back of the case, or smaller screw holes inside the same clip the hdd fit right into. Either way, you're going to screw in your ssd. If it has a place on the back of the case, your case will probably instruct you to install it before the motherboard. For both ssd and hdd, you need to plug in both the sata connector from the psu, and the sata data transfer cable from the motherboard. It doesn't necessarily matter which satas you use on the motherboard, because you can set the ssd as your boot in the bios, but it is good practice to order your drives in order on the motherboard. Make sure you're using the board's 6gb/s ports; but I'm assuming that the x470 chipset (the one this build's mb is using) won't have 3gb/s anyway. For the gpu, don't be afraid to push it in hard - make sure it's lined up first, but seating a gpu takes more force than a new builder may expect. Don't worry, it's hardy. This gpu will require a vga power cable from your power supply. Same as the other cables. Lastly, you want to make sure you did a good enough job with your cable management to be able to close the backside of the case.

To install windows, you set the boot order in the bios to be usb first (if you're installing from usb) or dvd drive first (if from dvd), but it's more common (and true of this build) to not have a dvd drive at all. It'll boot into the setup software, and you just choose the install path (make it your ssd).

If all goes well, that's it! Now, you just have to install the latest drivers for your graphics card and change a few settings so that documents, programs, and downloads etc are saved to the hdd by default. You can still use the ssd for your priority programs, just be aware that an ssd gets slower the more full it gets. However, I would not save any files on the ssd as their required r/w times are low anyway (assuming you're not writing a 2,000 page novel)

DrModMan 1 point 2 months ago

Alright, wow. Thanks for the detailed explanation I really appreciate it. Do you recommend the intel version of this build, and do both builds support VR?

gdonns17 3 points 2 months ago

Both builds definitely support VR. It's mostly dependent on the GPU and a gtx 1070 can support VR. That this is a gtx 1070ti, it will do it pretty well (It's on the down low for obvious capital reasons but the 1070ti is essentially the 1080 for $50-$100 less).

That said, choosing between the intel or amd versions is entirely up to you. In the intel version, you may notice, an aftermarket 212 evo is used because intel stock coolers usually actually aren't sufficient, whereas amd's stock coolers are. That aftermarket cooler the flagship air cooler and is probably most common. It cools like a beast. However, the processor on the intel build is not unlocked - you cannot overclock it (intel overclockable chips end with the initial 'K') so that cooler is slightly overkill. The amd version, on the other hand, is overclockable - which when you cross that bridge will be useful - so that when there are faster chips in a market of more demanding games in say, 4-5 years, you can squeeze out some juice and get an extra 2 years or so. The upgrade in four years into a $30 air cooler or $50-100 water cooler + overclocked chip is much better than $200 for a brand new chip; and when it really is time for a brand new processor, you would probably be able to keep the aftermarket cooler for the next build.

In terms of power between the two processors on the AMD build and the Intel build, the ryzen 2600 has a single thread rating of ~1900. The intel build has a single thread rating of ~2400. However, the intel build also does not have hyper threading on its cores. It has 6 cores, that is it. The ryzen 2600 has 6 cores, each hyper threaded to make 2 virtual cores (threads). AMD: 1900/ cpu x 12 cpus = 22,800 max multitasking rating. Intel: 2400/ cpu x 6 cpus = 14,400 max multitasking rating. The overall rating of the ryzen 2600 is ~13,000. The overall rating of the i5-8500 is ~12,000. So the ryzen chip is much more powerful for multitasking uses, and effectively slightly better in gaming (depending on the optimization of the game). I got my data from cpubenchmark.net. It is an incredible tool for weighing buying decisions, because it shows you power as well as power/cost, so you can see the investment value. You can even compare chips side by side. Their numbers are arbitrary unless used in comparison to other chips basically.

To put those chips into perspective, though, both the entire ryzen series and the intel 8th gen processor are powerhouses for gaming. An i7-4790k or an i7-7700, both around 11,000 passmark rating are pretty common in gaming rigs, and those processors can handle battlefield 1 at max settings on 1080p/ high on 1440p with the right video card (this build would crush it). I would note, though, that because games are so gpu intensive, they rarely take advantage of more threads, so you won't notice a performance increase in gaming with the ryzen 2600. What you will notice is that everyday use will be much better with the ryzen chip. In an extreme scenario that you have 16 tabs open in chrome, are playing music from spotify, compile a software project in an ide, and are writing a very long text document, the ryzen chip will win. Operating systems run each program on physical threads first before they run multiple processes concurrently on the same thread. So 12 beats 6. But gaming will be the same. The ryzen chip is just better for work / content creation, so streaming a game will be a whiz on that chip.

So it's safe to say, you don't have to worry about vr being an issue with either build. But I would recommend the amd build just because its future is less expensive for you, and even before those upgrades, it's the better, faster, stronger option (+ cheaper in the first place).

gdonns17 3 points 2 months ago

With this build, I would highly advise getting a gsync monitor. With this setup, you're definitely going to crush mid-range games in 1080p - 1440p, and do high-intensive games pretty well, still above 60fps most of the time. For that reason you're not going to see what you're paying for with either screen tearing from vsync (vertical sync) turned off or stutter from vsync turned on. Gsync (the name for nvidia's version of variable screen synchronization - amd freesync won't work because that is for amd cards but is essentially the same thing) will solve that issue for you. Everything will come out at the framerates that your gpu can handle, because gsync monitors only refresh when they get a new, complete frame.

If you don't know what screen tearing is, it's a phenomenon when the monitor and the gpu are out of sync. It can happen when the gpu is slower than the monitor, the gpu is faster than the monitor, or really at any point when one or the other overrides a task in progress by the other. You'll see this visually by a screen refreshing halfway through a gpu frame draw, so the top is newer frames, and the bottom is old frames; it's kind of like the gpu and monitor are fighting each other. Vsync is a graphic setting in games. It limits your framerate to the framerate of the monitor, where it buffers frames, or if your framerate is below the capability of the monitor, multiplies the frames where it repeats them. Both these efforts will cause screen "stutter" or lag. What gsync and freesync do is it transforms a monitor from being static refresh rate into variable refresh rate, like a gpu is - it creates frames faster or slower depending on the load. So by only allowing the screen to refresh when a full frame is ready using gsync or freesync, the monitor essentially "matches" the gpu; they are synchronized, and everything is all and well. There is neither frame buffer or overriding.

DrModMan 1 point 2 months ago

Damn, you give the most in depth answers I've ever been replied with, and for that I thank you.

I'm saving up this summer and about 3 weeks in I should have around 1300$ or something like that. I'm wondering, if I were to order every thing on that part list, would I have everything I need (once it it all delivers) in my room ready to be built or is there extra cables or mini wires needed. Also I've never built a PC and have no experience with it, so do you think it might be better to go with a prebuilt? Because I don't want to spend money on these parts and then end up not even knowing what to do, or worse screwing something up. I understand that buying these parts and building it will save me A TON of money, but I'm just wondering what you think. Also if I were to build this PC (which im really really considering) it wouldn't take like a week to build it right?

Zypher13 1 point 2 months ago

how is it so cheap

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

Some items that you will need are not included (monitor, operating system, keyboard, mouse, speakers/headphones).

These items alone can cost up to $1k alone depending.

underdogg 1 point 2 months ago

Hey bud, because you are using the the a x470 chipset, you could save money using a 256gig SSD and taking advantage of the new storemi that comes with these boards. or even make the extra 16 bucks for something like (Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive) more worth while despite the smaller size.

underdogg 1 point 2 months ago

I forget to mention that StoreMI is a tech that will move frequently used files to the SSD. You would install windows and everything on to the 3tb drive, and then setup StoreMI on the SSD. Store MI is based on tech used in the enterprise and is limited to a 256GIG SSD. However because StoreMI keeps moving things based on how often you use them You never need to worry about cleaning up your SSD to save space.

elsebola 1 point 2 months ago

Damn. Prices sure fell.

Archimedes013 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Sounds like it is a good one

Zerenfeir 1 point 2 months ago

Is everything listed that is needed to build a PC here besides a monitor and an operating system? Is there anything else I might need? Sorry this is my first time I'll ever be using a PC and building one. Laptop guy here.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Yup!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

yep :D I any monitor with low response time, high refresh rate and maybe g-sync would be a perfect fit for this build.. just make sure to read enough of reviews

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Zerenfeir 1 point 2 months ago

Is there also any bottleneck in this build?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

There is none :D its a well balanced build

CREEPDEV 1 point 2 months ago

How do you use that font??

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

What font?

droem 1 point 11 days ago

Maybe the formatting you used?

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

hello creepdev

IshanShah 1 point 2 months ago

How many HDMI ports does this have?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

The videocard has ONE HDMI port. But I recommend using Displayport anyway.

illegalmod 1 Build 2 points 14 days ago

I second that.

SouthernHemisphere 1 point 2 months ago

How is the Hitachi hard drive so far? I would like to get the 4TB version, but I am clueless by the comments if should on Amazon. I would only go with Amazon to track my order history, but no where else, but what do you think about neweggs tracking service?

droem 2 points 11 days ago

I had bad time with Hitachi drives. You can swap it out with a WD or a Seagate.

ogihcbeew 1 point 2 months ago

Lol you use the exact same storage as all of my builds.

UndeadFox 1 point 2 months ago

are L.E.D included in anything or do i have to buy my owns

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

The motherboard has a bit but if you want RGB fans you need to buy them yourself.

Leleedler 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

+1, my only complaint would be the 3tb hard drive, they have fairly low cache and I have heard of some reliability issues.

GameSpeer 1 point 2 months ago

That's a very nice build! My only concern is with the graphics card; why not get the GTX 1080 for just $40 more? And, perhaps you could pick up a different 2x8GB RAM set for a few bucks cheaper.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

Ryzen profits from faster Memory so cheaping out would mean performance loss.. And its always kinda: Why not this its only 40 bucks more. When PCPP does this for every component the budget would be blown.. so its just better to set a limit. And btw, once you OC the 1070 Ti its performance is on par with a 1080

k3y3 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Obviously you have to keep in mind that the cost of monitor, net card, and mouse/keyboard/headphones, plus the aesthetics and other extra expenses can definitely add up.

CoinFlare 1 point 1 month ago

I've read some bad reviews from customers of this PSU, is there a better option for only marginally more money? Looking to build this exact build.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

This one its the new gen of it.. very solid PSU

BOODOG 1 point 1 month ago

Could I potentially stream with this build considering that I will have good internet

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

yes! the ryen 6 core will handle streaming and gaming very well

LostElement 4 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

I would not have chosen that power supply. It's based on a 8 year old OEM model that's group regulated and lacks crucial protections for a modern system. Not a unit I would use. The Bitfenix Whisper 450w is about the same price and is much better performing.

The Carbide series has poor airflow, which can be problematic for high end components. For these components, it's not a big issue.

Other than that, It's not a bad guide.

fiay-19 2 points 1 month ago

Any recommendations for a better case?

droem 1 point 11 days ago

It's based on how you want it to look. I would go with the S340 Elite or the Meshify C.

snackrat 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks for the warning.

CyberOptek 1 point 1 month ago

Is the 550 enough of a power supply or should I consider moving up to the 650w?

PrivatePengu 2 points 1 month ago

550 is good enough.

CyberOptek 1 point 1 month ago

Thank you

the-doodle-noodle 1 point 1 month ago

nice

hanzhang 1 point 1 month ago

I want to buy a Samsung - C24F390 monitor to match this build. I'm just not sure would it be compatible with the video card ? or can anyone recommend me any monitors? I am looking for a monitor that is not too pricy.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Both have HDMI so no issues.

hanzhang 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks

UndeadFox 1 point 1 month ago

what monitor should i buy for this setup

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

A 1080p 144Hz monitor is good for this. you could even get 1440p 144Hz if you want

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

probs would recommend 1080p 144hz, but if have the money and play less demanding games like overwatch/cs go maybe 1080p 240hz

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

is 550w enough for this? especially if you want to upgrade or overclock

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Yep!

Fatlooser123 1 point 1 month ago

it says it uses 360 watt so its future proof

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

yes but power draw can go way above that under stress, and if you overclock or want to upgrade, you want to have some wattage headroom. Personally I would go for a 650w psu maybe even 750w for this build. 550w would probably be sufficient if you don't plan on upgrading or overclocking though.

paulcjones 1 point 1 month ago

My first gaming PC in a decade. Just pulled the trigger on this - added an entry level Razer keyboard, mouse and headset and a BenQ 27" monitor.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

What refresh rate does the monitor have?

ImLloyd 1 point 1 month ago

This is probably going to be an annoying answer, and I'm not really good at this but, can this stream Fortnite 1080p with ease at 120+fps? I've been going closer and closer to my budget build for a pc but I'm not so sure about parts.

Thank you in advance, still looking for a good build that can handle streaming game's like fortnite on 1080p for as cheap as possible.

Fatlooser123 1 point 1 month ago

in mid resolution yes, but i'm not sure about ultra res.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

just look for benchmarks on youtube ;)

Fatlooser123 1 point 1 month ago

On the AMD website it says that this cpu only support DDR4 2993MHz memery.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Trust me.. this will run ;)

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

thats the max supported memory, because if you get faster ram than that it is considered an overclock. Ryzen benefits from high speed ram.

Fatlooser123 1 point 1 month ago

Good point. haven't thought about this.

Qzkxz 1 point 1 month ago

You can get a 750 watt Corsair PSU from Best Buy for only 10 more dollars. I would recommend!

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

is it fully modular? and what certification?

PC-Nooby 1 point 1 month ago

So I’m completely new to pc gaming like I don’t even have a pc yet, am I able to make this even tho I’ve never built a pc before and would you say this is one of the best builds for its price to run a game like over watch

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 2 points 1 month ago

There are a ton of Guides on youtube like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhX0fOUYd8Q

And this PC would be perfect for overwatch. Ultra settings at 100 fps for sure

PC-Nooby 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks

Deogol 1 point 1 month ago

Hi, thanks for sharing this build. I was hoping to make a new PC, primarily for visual design (Photoshop and Illustrator). Could anyone advise me if this would be ideal for that, and if not what would they edit with the spec to better suit my needs please?

sumrandomguy 1 point 1 month ago

I really really like this build apart from one thing. And yes this will prolly make me sound like a newb but this is why I come to the pros :). Is there anyway to sub out the case to a Full tower ATX and have a case that supports a CD-ROM Drive? My problem is this the computer I have is like 10 years old bought it pre-built from Best Buy and was great for a while but my graphics card is so old as well as the other hardware that I am unable to update just a single piece because the other components wont support it. I play a lot of online games which is why i chose this build to start on I just like to keep things old school and want to keep the CD-ROM drive I currently have. If you would like specs of what I currently have I can provide them. Thank you in advance for any help.

FatMemeGod 1 point 1 month ago

Hey, im new to pc building. Is this pc good for gaming, how much fps do you get. Also are all the parts compatible. I just want to make sure.

macetotheface 1 point 1 month ago

Yes, this is a great build. FPS will vary depending on the games you play. Yes, all the parts are compatible. This site's builder makes it easy as it will spot either potential issues (such as ram clearance with a cooler), or hard issues like incompatibilities.

Dravonik 1 point 1 month ago

Hello! I'm going to have this build as the template for my rig and I'm just curious about if I should purchase a monitor or just use my TV. I would like to save a buck but would I be sacrificing something if I went with theTV instead of the monitor. My TV is a Vizio E550i-B2 with a 120Hz refresh rate and has a resolution of 1080p. Also would purchasing a high-speed HDMI change anything? Thanks, Evan

macetotheface 1 point 1 month ago

Double check the latency on your TV. More often than not, the latency is what makes them difficult to use. A good monitor has <6 ms, where as some TV's are up past 20. You would really feel that input lag in fast paced games like FPS or MOBA's. If what I found is correct, the TV is at 40 ms.

alienc 1 point 1 month ago

What specific workloads will a Ryzen 5 2600 be better at over an Intel i5 8400.

Also any other AMD specific benefits besides maybe StoreMi (ssd like feature on a hdd)

I might do some amateur rendering and blender messing about but nothing serious and honestly time isn't much of an issue.

I guess I am just asking which might also be better at handling more programs open at once or more chrome tabs etc

I will be using steam, discord, chrome and maybe some network monitoring apps in the background as well as of course anti-virus and a bunch of other services like gog galaxy, Skype, wechat, viber, all the instant messaging apps you can think of.

My current pc has 32gb of ddr3 ram, i7 2600, GTX 1050ti low profile, 8TB Seagate archive HDD, 500gb Samsung 850 EVO, 2TB Micron 1100 proprietary psu in a HP 8200 sff case.. and looking to upgrade to a 1080ti and new case hopefully a smaller one but can accommodate a full sized one this time.

It will mainly be a steam, battle net, origin gaming machine and 4k media consumption machine. I'm not much of an editor of any sorts but I want to maybe get into that with a few YouTube videos and maybe start seriously experimenting with game developing of all areas from coding to graphics sometime this year.

Vorticity 1 point 1 month ago

For Multitasking the Ryzen 5 2600 is faster than the i5-8400. The Ryzen 5 2600 is also overclockable while the i5-8400 is not. The Ryzen platform and AM4 socket are supposed to be supported until 2020. At this price point other than a pure gaming build it is hard to argue Intel over AMD due to AMD's superior multi-threaded performance.

alienc 1 point 1 month ago

I mean I love versatility but I think I can live with longer rendering and decompression times since I probably won't be doing all too much.

I need a steam/gaming machine first and foremost.

Something that can help me with running some intensive games like ashes of the singularity, witcher 3, gtav, deus ex you know the usual roundup.

I mean unless it will help things run smoother with multiple programs open like say all the game services you can think of and multiple chat apps along with some browser usage then maybe..

ianatyahoo 1 point 1 month ago

Awesome site and thanks for doing all the hard work. I have a few questions.

  1. Team L5 SSD vs Samsung 860 Evo ? Price is a bit higher on Sammy. I have good experience with Sammy but not familiar with Team L5.

  2. I am building this rig for my son (early teen) and he's wanting a cool flashy color case. Any recommendation for a case between 60-80?

  3. Any recommendations for decent gamin monitor, 25 - 27".? He's mostly playing Overwatch / Fortnite now but probably will get into big boys game in a year or so. What should I look for ? (resolution, refresh rate, nits, ? )

  4. any recommendations for headset w/ mic?

Thanks a bunch

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

I would go with the samsung one. Samsung makes kick *** SSDs.

As for the case the phanteks P350X seems like a very good choice. it costs 70 bucks and has a little bit of RGB lighting :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa3tjSCJY7s Or the Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 RGB. That one has more RGB and is more "flashy". It has pretty bad airflow tho.. But would work i guess

as for a monitor I would get something like a 1080p / 144Hz monitor. there are a ton of options.. monitor selection is all about reading ton of reviews ;).

And for the headset I can recommend a HyperX cloud II its a bit more expensive at around 100 bucks but the build quality is fantastic. I have it and I can really recommend it. If you have further questions let me know.

ianatyahoo 1 point 1 month ago

Lobsterareawesome - thanks for your reply.

a few more questions

  1. The P350X looks really good. The YouTube videos show lots of cool lights from the fan enclosure. Is that how the cool kids are doing it?

  2. Would I short change myself in the long run if i swap the 1080 Ti for 1060 6GB [https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TrGj4D/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-gt-ocv1-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-6gt-ocv1] - hoping to bring the total cost down under 1K and use some of that $ for a decent monitor.

  3. What does everyone think as far as the 'life' of this build before it needs another overhaul? 2 , 3, 5 years? if it is 5+ years, i'd say it's a pretty decent investment.

  4. i have two 1TB SATA 3GBs drives that I bought a while ago but was hardly used. Is it worth buying brand new STATA 6GBs drive for this build?

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

I'd say about 3-5 years. longer if you upgrade hardware later on.

droem 1 point 11 days ago
  1. LOL. That's funny! But really. tho.

  2. The 1060 6GB is really good for 1080p gaming.

  3. It should last about 5 years

  4. A 6Gb/s drive (preferable an SSD) will make a big improvement

YahirG. 1 point 1 month ago

really nice build but i was wondering if there is anyone that could look at my pc build and tell me if its good. its my first one and i dont want to mess it up.

Adamus2705 1 point 1 month ago

100th upvote! Also nice build I used some of it in my one (not completed yet)

mcchael 1 point 1 month ago

Would I have to upgrade anything else if I did the ryzen 5 2600x instead of the 2600?

macetotheface 1 point 1 month ago

Not unless you wanted too.

MillerHeavy 1 point 1 month ago

Just purchased a build off this part list. ended up going with a GTX 1080 for the GPU and the ryzen 5 2600x with wraith spiral cooler for CPU and corsair vengeance 2x8GB DDR4-3000 RAM as the memory as this build was out of stock. after taxes and before the 40$ mail in rebate it came out to, $2032.82. This is the most expensive thing I have bought other then my car and should last me 10 years+. Im hoping this was a good investment. I see it as spending big once so I would not have to keep upgrading every 3-4 years.

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

Probably won't last you 10 years, probably about 5-7 years. and 3-4 years if you don't upgrade things.

MillerHeavy 1 point 1 month ago

My old build is about 5 years old and can still run most games at high settings with frames around 40-60, its an AMD athlon x4 760k, 8 g ram and a gtx 760. That build cost me about 900 bucks with windows. This new pc is about 2.5 more expensive. If I got 5 years out of this ****** computer I can definitely get close to 10 with the new one.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

10 years thats quite the stretch tbh.. but more than 5 years this shpuld last ya for sure

fiay-19 1 point 1 month ago

Any other cases that would work with this build? (new to pc building)

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 1 month ago

This a great guide. This will be my first time assembling a PC, so this is extremely helpful. But I have a couple of questions:

1) The recommended HDD on this build doesn't have the best reviews on Amazon, so I found one that did: WD Blue 2TB Desktop Hard Disk Drive - SATA 6 Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD20EZRZ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013QFRS2S/ref=ox_sc_mini_detail?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Unfortunately, this product won't come up for me on this site, so I am having a hard time determining whether there might be a compatibility issue. In fact, I can't find any Blue Series WD HDD products on this site. Don't know why that is.

Would this HDD work as a good replacement for the Seagate Constellation ES? Would everything be compatible, assuming all other parts are the same?

2) How important are static mats or wrist bands when building a PC? Needed? Recommended? Thoughts on that would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Phantoful 1 point 1 month ago

When people say a gaming pc doesn't cost money

PinguOW 2 points 1 month ago

No one says that

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $94.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $54.99 @ Newegg
Memory G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $91.99 @ Newegg
Storage Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $34.99 @ B&H
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.90 @ OutletPC
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card $169.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $44.99 @ SuperBiiz
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $29.49 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates) $605.33
Mail-in rebates -$40.00
Total $565.33
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-16 12:21 EDT-0400

There ya go.. with this 600$ machine you'll still have a better experience than on console..

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

My comments: if you want to get ryzen 5 2600, you'll want to get a better aftermarket cooler. The 2600 runs really hot on a Wraith Stealth. If you just want to use the stock cooler, get the 2600x, or even the 1600, which have wraith spire coolers. But if you plan to overclock, get the 2600 and get a better cooler. If you want to save extra money, get a msi b450 tomahawk which will come out soon. It's suitable for a Ryzen 5 and has a bios flash button so you don't need a spare cpu to update bios, which is an awesome feature. I would also recommend getting a 2tb drive instead of a 3tb, as they are a good amount cheaper, and 2tb is more than enough. I would get a different gpu that doesn't use a blower cooler like that 1070 ti and the fe gpus, open air is much better. If you do plan on getting a 1070 or 1070 ti, i would get a 650w or 750w psu, especially if you want to overclock or plan on upgrading later on. This system would run on 550w psu, but if you stress it and/or overclock, you might have some issues. With cases, I recommend getting something you think looks good, has decent airflow, easy cable management, and can fit everything in nicely. You shouldn't replicate this when you build a pc. This is only a guide, and I recommend tweaking some things to suit you.

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

here is a build i made that is only a bit more expensive https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NcYGJ8 it uses an estimation of b450 tomahawk pricing. I expect it to be around $100 us It has a better cooler, nicer ram, better gpu (cooling wise), a nicer case, and a 750w psu instead of 550w, which gives way more headroom for upgrading and overclocking

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

if you used the 2600x for your build, could you then forgo the fan you added as you mentioned above - why 2600 vs 2600x? thanks

Vorticity 1 point 1 month ago

I would look for a case with better air flow especially if you plan on upgrading in the future or plan on overclocking. The Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 is known for bad airflow if you leave the front panel on and I find it pointless to take it off a otherwise good case. If you like RGB front fans I would recommend the Cooler Master H500P. You can get the Mesh Version or you can get the regular version and order the Mesh Front Panel for cheaper. You also could probably modify the top panel to make it more secure. You could also use many other cases, but the H500P with the Mesh Front Panel upgrade is the route I want to go in my build which is very similar.

Link to my build. A little more expensive, but I am open to opinions. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Vorticity/saved/LMgRGX

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

thanks! I actually just bought the Phanteks Eclipse P400S in all black - I am super excited about it.

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

I am very new to building PCs so please excuse me if this is a dumb question - I was looking at this build and thinking I would use the Ryzen 2600x vs the 2600 as it is a bit faster. Any thoughts it is just 20 bucks more basically.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

Yeah.. I would get the 2600X since it is faster and also comes with a better cooler than the 2600

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

Thank you!

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 1 month ago

If I were to use a G.Skill Ripjaws V Series DDR4-3200 as opposed to the 2666mhz listed above, would I need to make any other modifications to the build? I figure since 3200 is only $5 more at the moment, could look at getting more mhz. Would it be worth it? Would it need anything like additional cooling? And I'm not sure I understand what you mean by DIMM support. Would be grateful for you thoughts.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

You should be fine getting the faster memory.

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 1 month ago

Okay, thanks

LjSpike 1 Build 1 point 1 month ago

I had a look to see if there was any clear way you could squeeze more performance out of this build and/or cut costs on it but there doesn't seem to really be any good way to do that. It's a great part list.

PancakeMcPutin 1 point 1 month ago

Excellent build great if your on a budget but I just personally don't like the way the ram looks but this is a great build 10/10

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

Any particular reason you are using the Mini Video card vs full size for better cooling? Does the full size still fit nicely in the recommended case?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

fullsize should fit nicely just check the case specs

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

Thank you!

tasimana 1 point 1 month ago

WOAH imma buy this rn!

Raisin56 1 point 1 month ago

manomanoman my Fx-6350 and RX480 8gb build is looking kinda crap now

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

well the rx480 is still a good card... I would upgrade the CPU in the future tho

rustyesh 1 point 1 month ago

Is 550W enough for decent overclocking both cpu and gpu? (and memory) I've never done ocing.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

I think so.. If you want to be sure then a 650W would do just fine

Stevie-Cakes 1 point 1 month ago

I'm considering getting the EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB FTW Ultra Silent gpu as an alternative to the Mini listed in this build, but people say it's pretty big and would take up 3 slots, as opposed to 2. I'm honestly not sure what that means. Would such a card fit in this build?

I'm considering it as an alternative mainly due to the complaints I'm reading on some reviews about the Mini being way too loud, although the reviews seemed pretty mixed on that. Would be grateful for your thoughts.

Thanks in advance

rogdog56 1 point 13 days ago

Yeah, I wouldn't get a mini either, it's just they filtered for cheapest 1070 ti at any given time, and you can change it to your desires.

Waites4p2 1 point 1 month ago

Honestly for this price point and in this current gaming market im astonished that this managed to be a 1070 build instead of 1060 and am impressed by it. Good on you

Waites4p2 1 point 1 month ago

Does seem like great minds think aline and theres deffinitly some parts in here id put in my more budget friendly build. Especialy g3 supernova, ived wanted that thing for a few years now

Rudio 1 point 1 month ago

I'm based in UK and consequently, the £359 amazon cost for the video card is before amazon add import taxes of £70-£80. Is there a similar card that someone can recommend available from a UK stockist, at a similar price, or should I just pay the extra for this card in particular?

Khornutz 1 point 1 month ago

I am very new to this. I have s very similar build in mind. I bought this monitor for my Ps4 Pro.

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-U28E590D-28-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00YD3DBOC

Will it be good enough to use with this type of build?

Bicboy 1 point 1 month ago

Any reason the price went up

droem 1 point 9 days ago

A lot of reasons. Let me list a few:

  • Bitcoin Mining, Bitcoin miners tend to buy a Lot of GPUs for their mining.

  • Price fixing a DRAM, VRAM, NAND Flash.

  • A item just came into stock

GR8PCs 1 point 1 month ago

This is quite a nice build for the price

Jbenzaia 1 point 1 month ago

Two questions

1) You have the x470 Gaming Pro here but there is also a Gaming Plus that is 20 dollars cheaper and I cannot see ONE difference between the two boards. Can anyone tell me the difference?

2) I can see the memory is now switched from DDRA 3200 to 3000 - was was the reason behind the change?

ZaSeaDog 1 point 1 month ago

I would get a cooler just because overclocking and stuff

PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

It's not a very good idea to overclock the second Ryzen series CPUs, as they offer almost no performance boost. AMD has done greatly in maximizing the default boost.

LouBrierley 1 point 1 month ago

Thanks so much for this. Bought all above components but upgraded the CPU to the Ryzen 7 2700x. All fitted and is now running perfectly.

I brought all my parts from eBuyer (UK) and came with next day delivery. Took my two hours to build and had some issues with installing windows 10 but now very happy with this setup.

I could have only ever dreamed of owning this rig 10 years ago when I first started gaming, and now I do and I absolutely loved it.

If you're thinking about this build, go for it! Easy and incredibly powerful.

With my CPU upgrade and two Acer 144hz monitors my total cost was around £1500.

Any questions from anyone looking into this build but doesn't have much computer experience like myself feel free to drop me a message and I can do my best to help!

Thanks again for this awesome guide.

RoyalSovereign 1 point 29 days ago

oh wow.... 1070 ti for 450. O.o

RexonaMotion 1 point 29 days ago

Pretty good build. I didn't need the 3.5 TB hard drive so I just cut that cost into so RGB corsair ram. Works fine,

Scarecrow00 1 point 28 days ago

Thinking about using a variation of this build. Is the SSD really necessary? If I took that out I could put in a Ryzen 7 and upgrade the gpu to a 1080 for around the same cost. Is this worth it?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

Use the SSD.. A PC without the SSD is just slow.. What are you going to use the PC for anyway? if you want to save money just get a SSD with a smaller capacity

itzraywhy 1 point 28 days ago

Acer Predator XB241YU (400 bucks) vs AOC G2460PF (200 bucks) for 144 hz monitor? The 400 bucks one has GSYNC but is it really worth 200 more bucks? I'm mainly going to be playing FF15.

Drunik 1 point 9 days ago

The other guy is kidding. Of course it's not worth it.

Yes, G-Sync offers a smooth, consistent image, yet the extra $200 will not win you matches.

When you have a chance, look into Radeon graphics with a FreeSync monitor. These are widely available with an excellent selection from all reputable brands, and cost significantly less.

Booperdooper32 0 points 24 days ago

You’ll want a gsync monitor. Not even kidding with high end gaming it’s a requirement.

ikebuddy 1 point 28 days ago

Does this build need any additional cooling?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 27 days ago

No, you'll be fine

Drunik 1 point 27 days ago

I started with this guide, thanks for the work, and heavily modified the components:

CPU: Ryzen 7 1700X for $278 + tax from Amazon.ca

Cooler: AMD Wraith Prism, $45, no tax, Reddit

Motherboard: Asus B350-F Gaming, $137, Amazon

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 16Gb 2400MHz, $184, StaplesPreferred

Storage: WD Black 256Gb NVMe, $110, Amazon

Crucial MX500 1Tb SATA, $288, Amazon

Seagate 2Tb external, $76, NewEgg @ eBay.ca

Graphics: EVGA GTX 1070 Ti Black Edition, $640, VLCanada.com

Case: Fractal Design Meshify C white, $105, NewEgg.ca

Fans: Deepcool RF120, $30, CanadaComputers

Power supply: Corsair CX550M, $81, Amazon

DVD rewriter: LG external model G, $40, NewEgg @ eBay

Sound: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z, $130, Amazon

Speakers: Logitech Z506, $55, NewEgg @ eBay

Headset: Sennheiser G4ME ONE, $210, Amazon

Webcam: Logitech C920, $90, Amazon

Keyboard: Corsair K70 RGB RapidFire, $160, BestBuy.ca

Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, $80, Amazon

Mousepad: Corsair MM300, $30, Amazon

I bought most items on sale, carefully checking reddit and researching deals.

droem 2 points 9 days ago

The motherboard audio is about the same compared to the sound card you chose. Plus you don't even need one. Most of them have not be touched in years.

Drunik 1 point 9 days ago

Thanks, chief. Will try to sell it. Anything else that doesn't fit?

droem 1 point 9 days ago

PSU maybe. How much is your PC part drawing at idle?

Booperdooper32 1 point 27 days ago

I am planning on replacing the 1070ti with a 1080ti. I saw this card was a mini, will a gtx 1080ti still fit?

rogdog56 1 point 13 days ago

Yes, as long as you are staying with atx that case will fit a 1080ti.

Booperdooper32 1 point 12 days ago

I’ve decided to also go with a Ryzen 7 2700X. The cooler should fit as well correct and the motherboard should be compatible?

rogdog56 1 point 12 days ago

Yeah, the motherboard will be fine as long as it's an AM4 socket. Also, the cooler will fit because it's the cooler that comes with the processor. If anything's incompatible, PCPartPicker will flag it for you.

Booperdooper32 1 point 12 days ago

“Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.” Thought maybe the cooler might have been too big for the case but I guess not.

rogdog56 1 point 12 days ago

It probably won't be that bad as the stock cooler is small, but if you are concerned about it blocking a future ram slot you should purchase the corsair lpx ram. It's very low profile which is good if you're concerned about this sort of thing.

CwalkPinoy 1 Build 1 point 25 days ago

i'd probably spend the extra 10 and get a wd blue m.2 with 500gb storage. no cables, so less hassle. plus if that house fire corsair unit blows it won't take out your ssd with it.

the 1070ti is way overpriced right now. could just get a 1070 and save 50 bucks and you can put the money towards power supply and m.2 ssd.

definitely would up the psu to either a corsair rx550, xfx befx 550, evga g2/g3 550. it'll usually run you 80 dollars for such a unit.

so in total save 50 by going to a 1070, add 10 for ssd, 20 for power supply, and another 20 so you can get a 4tb hgst deskstar. end up with a way better power supply, less cable management, another terabyte on the mech drive and 20gb on the ssd.

and without a lot of cost to performance. like 4fps difference on average.

hond1980 1 point 24 days ago

Hello, Just a little curios. why is the SSD and HDD listed. If I decide to go with this build, Do I have to buy both? I was thinking about just getting the Hitachi 3TB. I Know SSD is more reliable and faster, but for the price I would like to go with Mechanical. I am not sure if there is a way to combine both to enhance performance.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

The SSD is for the operating system (windows) to be installed on. The OS boots much faster, and the overall performance it significantly higher than your standard hard drive. The mechanical hard drives are bought in addition to the SSD for cheap storage ( pictures,video, or even programs).

docdocgoose 1 point 22 days ago

How does one enable Bluetooth and wifi easiest for this kind of setup? Should I blow the money on a mobo with wifi connectivity? Sorry, first time builder here!

LegalEagle 1 point 13 days ago

You can buy an motherboard with wifi built-in. There's an ASRock one on the parametric filter list that sells for about $20 more than the others that enables wifi.

WetworkOrange 1 point 22 days ago

I just built the equivalent to this except I went with an XFX XXX RX580 8GB GPU, which I'm starting to regret due to some strange anomalies I keep experiencing with my graphics. My screen cuts out intermittently like it's rebooting (frustrating during gameplay), and I can't use dual settings with my monitor and 4k Smart TV; one or the other. Wish I had gone 1080Ti, because I didn't have any of these issues with my 1050Ti. First time I've used AMD products. Been using Intel with my builds for the last 25 years.

dazednkonfused 1 point 22 days ago

Hey all,

Bought this build and having issues getting anything to boot.... the red CPU LED shows up on the mobo... I've replaced the motherboard and it is still happening. Has anyone run into this? (Ryzen 5 2600, X470 Gaming Plus, and Team Dark RAM)

Thx

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 22 days ago

Please post this in our troubleshooting forums.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

The either your CPU is not seated correctly.. it doesnt get power or the CPU is dead

Morganku 1 point 22 days ago

I upgraded to the 2700x and a 650w power supply. With this setup will I need to buy any additional cooling or will the stock cooling do the trick with no OC? I also read that there isn’t great airflow with this case is there any similar priced case that would be better with enough room for additional upgrades in the future?

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

Should be fine with no overclocking. But remember, the life of your CPU is relevant to the cooling. If you have the money, grab a water cooler for it. They cost about $100, and are super easy to install.

Computer-Nerd 1 point 22 days ago

Looking at the parts, I'm pretty sure that the motherboard requires an 8 pin and a 4 pin for the cpu power. But on the power supply, there's only 1 8 pin connector. Does the pc still work without the 4 pin? Correct me if I'm wrong.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 21 days ago

Good catch. It looks like there was a missing spec on the PSU that I have now updated.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

Should work without the 4 pin

UKL 1 point 21 days ago

Hi, PC Part Picker Community o/ ! New to PC Building I was looking at this build as my first PC to build and since it was at my budget and I have a couple of questions, one would be about the GPU it's GTX 1070 Ti mini is their much of a performance lost because of it's a mini ? does the mini imply just a smaller GPU? and the build is based off the AMD CPU should I go for the 2600X instead would I notice much of a difference? Again please don't despise/belittle me I am new to the PC thing and really don't want to mess up my first build and I would also be using this PC for 3D modeling and graphics/editing work and of course gaming on the side ...

Thank you for the Guide and your time - UKL PS Also if anyone could recommend me a good budget monitor for editing I would really appreciate it :D

rogdog56 2 points 12 days ago

I don't know about your monitor question, but the 1070 ti is basically there as a filter. You can choose any 1070 ti you want, they just filtered for the cheapest ones. There isn't much performance difference between minis and normal, but the heating performance is not as good because of the smaller size. And you can go for 2600x if you want, it's just a small increase in GHz which you could probably achieve by overclocking 2600

UKL 1 point 10 days ago

Thank you for the reply !

MekWrlrd 1 Build 1 point 19 days ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CtPX29

I swapped out the 275R for the 270R. They're very similar, and you save $40. The 750W power supply allows for the max wattage of the system to fall into the peak efficiency of the unit. However, a system will hardly ever run at max. A 550W power supply should run at better efficiency over the course of its use. This is also a cheaper option up front, by about $15. With money freed up, I made a few minor upgrades to performance. Ryzen loves faster memory, so I swapped out the 2666 for 3200. The CAS is slightly worse, but the sizable speed increase more than makes up for it. The 2.5 ssd with 480GB was bumped up to an NVME m.2 with 512GB of storage. Finally, I swapped out the smaller 1070 ti for a larger one, for better cooling capacity.

Side Note: If the budget is $1250, you can also upgrade the 2600 to the 2600X, with money to spare. Or, add some fans for better cooling.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 19 days ago

We specifically moved to 750W PSUs due to the EPS/ATX power requirements. You are unlikely to find units under roughly 750 that have more than 1 EPS or an additional ATX power connector.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

Arent the additional CPU power connectors optional? you can run the CPU just fine even with a single 4+4 pin EPS connected..

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

Not really optional. Some boards may function with only the EPS cable but for optimal usage and if you have any plans at all to overclock you will need the second cable.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

Really? Buildzoid states here that the 4pin is in fact optional though..

https://youtu.be/A4PEgofGfz4?t=1m4s

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

He states that with no facts whatsoever and even mentions it may not work and only only for "daily use" which would not be gaming, overclocking, etc.

TheGreatPCBuilder 1 point 18 days ago

Really nice build but you might wanna find higher clock speed ram like 3000+ ddr4 for ryzen 5

daddy.prim 1 point 17 days ago

do you not think your low balling a bit on the mobo? I have a similar build with a 1080 and 2600x that I'm planning on getting. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/daddy.prim/saved/M7YVYJ do you think I could get away with a mobo like that and still get low temps so that the xfr in the 2600x will be able to maintain a high boost clock...

I love pc

LegalEagle 1 point 15 days ago

I am planning on building this in the next week or so. I pretty much stayed close to the recommendations, with some minor upgrades (I sprung for the Samsung Evo 860 SSD even though it's a bit more expensive, and I got the MSI X470 motherboard that has WiFi).

The one "major" change I made was the case. I got the NZXT S340. It comes with a 120 mm fan for the top and the back of the case -- do you think I need any additional fans? I don't plan on overclocking or anything.

It's my first build so I'm not sure if more fans is overkill.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

Should be fine. I have a similar build.

ODking 1 point 15 days ago

Love this build! I'm thinking of buying it but I'm not sure about the GPU are there better options? I was thinking of replacing the GPU with one of these EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, ASUS ROG-strix-gtx1070ti-a8g-Gaming 8 GB GDDR5, Asus ROG Strix GTX1070-O8G-Gaming Nvidia, Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 Ti WindForce 8 GB, Is this a good idea or should I just keep it this way or is there a better option? I really would appreciate any help! (First time building a pc)

Hettlee 1 point 15 days ago

Built this build today.

The few things I did was use a 650W gold power supply instead of the 750W. I also did not use the SSD.

Everything works together. Make sure you have the ram in the correct places when you put them in.

Make sure you use the provided coords that come with the power supply and plug into the coords on the plugs on the power supply.

Other then that everything went perfect and everything fits perfectly into the case.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

I just created a build similar to this (ryzen cpu, x470 mobo,16gb ram, 750 psu, gtx1070 ti). I upgraded the CPU to a ryzen 7 2700, and chose couple higher end parts for my 2k 144hz gaming build. Check it out.

XXXXXXXXXIII 1 point 14 days ago

SSD seems a bit lacking. You don't always need a 970evo but at least make it nvme to go with the rest of the system.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

Why NVME? a regular Sata SSD does the job just fine and the performance difference in everday use is negligible anyway..

rogdog56 1 point 13 days ago

Are you sure an x470 was necessary?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

X470 boards are much better than x370 and b350 ones

rogdog56 0 points 12 days ago

X470 is much better than b350 but there is not much difference between x470 and x370...

droem 1 point 9 days ago

Do a little research. Your so wrong.

rogdog56 1 point 8 days ago

Don't know what you're replying to because my comment got deleted but there are many ways to state my information is incorrect without being a dbag.

droem 1 point 8 days ago

The whole thread is still there. Did not mean to be a jerk.

X470 is much better than b350 but there is not much difference between x470 and x370...

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/qWLrxr/excellent-amd-gaming-build#cx2902429

Cloudsvv 1 point 13 days ago

I am thinking about buying the parts listed but I am new to this as it is my first build, and I have a few questions. Is the 1070ti from Nvidia? for me it shows it is from msi and I am not sure. Edit: if it is from Nvidia, am i able to get any geforce 1070ti? I am thinking i should upgrade the Ryzen 5 2600 Because i heard i should do so for streaming, which should i upgrade to? I do not yet have a monitor and i am looking for one at the moment, I dont have too much to spend on a monitor so i am thinking around 300-400usd if possible. From what I have seen, I am willing to sacrifice an IPS pannel for a TN and i am looking for 1440p and 144hz but I am not sure if there are monitors like this in the price range that are good. Any help is great, Thanks!

ThusKrush 1 point 12 days ago

I’d like to change the motherboard, which could store more than 16gb of ram(for future upgrades) which motherboard would you recommend. If you do change the motherboard, would you need to change the other components?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 11 days ago

All of the motherboards shown are compatible with 64GB of RAM.

ThusKrush 1 point 9 days ago

So the motherboard chosen for this part list can store a maximum of 64gb ram?

Tallis161 1 point 11 days ago

Lol I just finished doing a build and wanted to compare to what others are doing, my budget is a little less so I have a 1060/B350 but every other part is the same. Feels nice to have arrived at a similar build for my first one :D

Beth18 1 point 9 days ago

Would this be good enough for streaming gameplay?

ThusKrush 1 point 9 days ago

Can somebody give me the link of a monitor for this build. I’d like 24 inch, 144hz and 1080p va

LamoidZombieDog 1 point 8 days ago

Ryzen 5 2600? thats like 8000 Speed.. its ok for budget gaming but not much more. That motherboard cost 130. go with an asus prime b350 plus its only 80 bucks, and works just as good. Hard drive scould be better but its fine. GPU.. no need to pair a 1070 TI with a ryzen 5 2600.. go with a gtx 1050 from gigabyte. 150$, at high clock speeds it runs all games perfect.

LegalEagle 1 point 6 days ago

I built this on Saturday. It went really well for my first build (well, I forgot to plug in both the 8 AND 6 pin connectors on the video card, but that was it).

Only changes I made were the case (went with the NZXT S340), I specifically bought a Samsung 860 SSD (500 gb), upped the RAM to DD4-3200 (G.Skill Ripjaws V). Of course, my build was significantly more expensive because I had zero components, so I had to buy a mouse and monitor. Went with the $600 Asus Predator XB271HU (27" IPS, G-Sync and 2K) BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE PUSHERS AND I'M EASILY INFLUENCED.

Er, sorry. But yeah, everything went smoothly, it booted up immediately, is whisper-quiet and I'm blown away by how much better everything looks on a PC versus my PS4. I'm hooked!

RJsmangit 1 point 6 days ago

If I subbed out the graphics card for this one (https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon-Gaming-Graphic-GV-RX580GAMING-8GD/dp/B06Y3ZQPY6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1531775139&sr=8-1&keywords=gigabyte+radeon+rx+580+8gb+video+card)

Will it be compatible and still be good enough to stream and dabble in some gaming?

RiggaVain 1 point 5 days ago

What is the Fortnite FPS with this pc build?

Nyteshield 1 point 4 days ago

What is a good monitor that is around $200 and compatible with this build? I'm new to all of this so does anybody have good tips for future builds?

Teohelm 1 point 3 days ago

I don't understand the parts you picked for this build at all. First, the MB is rated very low with QC issues, DOA issues and is very basic in features. Second, the ram at 3000 speed is undercutting performance from your Ryzen cpu due to the Infiniti fabric as 3200 should be the minimum. Third, the Patriot drive, again, suffers from very low reviews with people complaining about low build quality and high failure rates. There is a reason that 480gb drive is $75. Fourth, and I feel like a broken record here, a very low rated mechanical drive with very high failure rates among other issues. Again, there is obviously a reason that 3tb drive is the price of a 1tb WD Black. All of these parts have poor ratings with serious reliability issues among other problems so it leaves me wondering why you would choose these parts? If the idea was to choose as cheap of parts as possible so you can throw a 1070 in there, then mission accomplished, but good luck with your system lasting more than a season without having to replace half of it. You obviously don't care about the quality of parts and just want to cram what you can in there that "looks good" What say you?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 3 days ago

Please read the actual guide portion for answers to all your questions.

Teohelm 1 point 3 days ago

So basically your answer is "parametric filters"? So you don't actually care then that the quality of those parts is very poor just so you can throw a build on the main page and call it an "excellent" build on top of it? With the quality of those parts? Nice.

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 3 days ago

The guides are a starting point that cover the entire globe. Selecting individual components is essentially impossibly as a result as stock varies globally and we also account for users with individual retailer preferences and varying tax rates. The descriptors before each build are where they stand within the stack of builds from entry level to magnificent. Most people will not see the exact same part list which is why we have the part list opinions wanted forum for a look over from the community. Static part lists become outdated almost immediately and lose their worth just as fast.

jwforstot 1 point 1 day ago

Not great for the price. I made a build for 1.1k which has a gtx 1080 and a ryzen 7 (can turbo to 3.7, I've overclocked to 3.9), which came with an exceptional cooler. the motherboard i have isn't as expensive, but it still is perfectly fine and nothing went wrong when installing the parts. sure, I might have 1 less terabyte of storage, but is there do you really need a 3tb hard drive vs a 2tb? my ssd is a little bit smaller, but you can always spend more money to get a bigger one and still spend less than on this build. Look at other builds before buying this, it is not the right price. this should be under 1000. here's my build if you're interested: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PpGMw6

Also to note is the fact that there is 50 dollars worth of mail-in rebates on the build advertised, those are really annoying to get and most people don't even bother with them. that brings the build to a whopping 1,200 dollars, which I think is a complete rip off for what you get.

baldr0000 1 point 1 day ago

Question.My cousin let me know that I was missing a cpu cooler and a disc drive,the disc drive needed for windows OS.I found out that I could just install from a usb so the disc drive is not a problem,but he said that it has a gpu cooler but not a cpu.I read and double checked,just would like to know if I have everything I need in this kit?

Lorakhan 1 point 1 day ago

"AMD Gaming Build" nVidia GPU

Welp.

ikebuddy 1 point 1 day ago

Anyone have a picture of this build completed? I want to see how pretty she'll be when she's done.

ComputerKid22 1 point 1 day ago

What about replacing the 1070 with a vega 64

butterfly127 1 point 23 hours ago

doesn't it need a cooler on cpu and gpu?

JrEspresso 1 point 16 hours ago

Why don't you use the 1600 and get a 1080, the performance drop is minimal between the 1600 and the 2600

XXXneosapianXXX 0 points 2 months ago

Trying to get a build for my gf. If the RAM isnt compatible what would y'all recommend?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

The parametric filter will only show compatible RAM.

XXXneosapianXXX 1 point 2 months ago

Where do i find that ?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

It is already a part of this guide/part list. We only show compatible components.

Parametric filters (like the RAM and storage above) are given a set of specs/filters and then find the best priced components that match and are compatible with the rest of the build.

Fatlooser123 1 point 1 month ago

But it says on AMD's website that it doesn't support 3000MHz

PinguOW 1 point 1 month ago

Ryzen works with 3000mhz ram, it works fine way above that. It is merely considered an overclock if you have it running above 2933mhz

PCplanter 0 points 2 months ago

No heatsink? why?

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Per the CPU section of the guide, we are using the stock cooler.

Memo1010 1 Build 0 points 2 months ago

pssst clicking the link to go to the intel version takes you to the AMD version

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PrivatePengu 1 point 1 month ago

This was one month ago, it probably was fixed.

puggerplayz 0 points 2 months ago

its pretty good has anyone seen Ninjas build

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

what about ninjas build?

Yuva_Boss 0 points 2 months ago

nice build, but could you make a build with windows included

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 3 points 2 months ago

All you need to do is go to the software section and add the version of Windows that you want.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

I have a similar build with absolutely everything included.

aden1928 0 points 2 months ago

should i wait till black friday to make a build? how much cheaper is a 900 dollar build? consider that the nvidia 1170 is realeasing about july or august

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Black Friday can be cheaper if you are more flexible on components.

SouthernHemisphere 1 point 2 months ago

I'll probably wait if the motherboards and CPU prices go down, but I will eventually by every component I need before then.

techguy189 0 points 1 month ago

Don't you use Radeon GPUs in AMD builds. I am doing a AMD build as well an just heard that Radeon GPUs pair better with AMD.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

This is just pure BS. any GPU will do just fine here ;)

manirelli staff submitter 8 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

That is a common myth. You can use Nvidia with AMD and AMD with Intel without issue

NathanPallen 0 points 1 month ago

Downgrade the storage and upgrade cpu?

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

no

Darkpriest667 -1 points 2 months ago

Yours and every build I see on PC partpicker vastly underestimate GPU price and availability. The GPU you have listed is not only not 499... you can't even get it shipped to you for under 570 dollars.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076S4RH6K/?tag=pcpapi-20

SethWils1231 3 points 2 months ago

just check nvidias website. I got a 1070ti with free shipping for $450 brand new.

illegalmod 1 Build 1 point 14 days ago

Not true. I bought my 1070 ti a month ago for 499$.

gdonns17 0 points 2 months ago

that's because the model you're looking at on amazon is the OC version. The base version is $499. And availability is fine now... most cards are at their original msrp again, within the past few days. They should be below their msrp after a few years of release, yeah, but this card not so much. It came out November 2017

dotf1337 -1 points 1 month ago

AMD build with an NVIDIA GPU... hmm

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 1 month ago

whats wrong with that?

droem 1 point 1 month ago

You on crack? I can put in a old Voodoo GPU the 90's for all I care.

daddy.prim 1 point 17 days ago

what is you saying

jake93s -1 points 13 days ago

red ram? $200 motherboard for a amd system? a none tempered glass case for $100? and the biggest insult a god damn $178 PSU, that is only gold rated... holy **** this is horrible build. please don't advice people on building computers. some people might actually build this, and you would be responsible for wasting their money

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 0 points 12 days ago

The F*** are you talking about? The Memory is black, the motherboard costs 130$ and the PSU costs 70$ AND AND AND the case HAS TG. Not every case has to have TG tho. Are we even seeing the same part list?

ClaimarR 1 point 12 days ago

As a person that is looking to build their first PC would you recommend this build as it is? or are there better alternatives out there

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

I would swap out the SSD with a 500GB SSD from Western Digital. It is faster than the one from team group. I recommend the 3D Nand Blue one. And replace the ryzen 5 2600 with the Ryzen 5 2600X. It has higher clockspeeds (it performs a little bit better) and it comes with a much better cooler than the 2600. Otherwise this part list is really solid and a really nice high end PC. If you have any other questions let me know.

ClaimarR 1 point 12 days ago

For the 2600x, would i need to buy an extra cpu cooler? When looking around the forums i've seen people talking about overclocking with the "x ryzen cpus" and how you would need a seperate cpu cooler.

Lobsterareawesome 7 Builds 1 point 12 days ago

Overclocking the CPU really is optional... The CPU is already a beast as is.. And for stock speeds the stock cooler is good enough.. Ya dont really need a separate cooler... And for the SSD: I would get the 2.5" one..

ClaimarR 1 point 12 days ago

and for the SSD you recommended, would it be the m.2 version or the sata ssd? while both are the same price and don't know if theres any difference in the two

jake93s 1 point 7 days ago

i would get the 1600, as its the same cpu piratically as the 2600, AMD is renowned for just rebadging their products and this is one of them. i've seen ryzen 1600s new for $199. also this means the motherboard will be cheaper as you won't need to mess around with bios or buy a newer version motherboard.

240gig ssd m.2 ssd is more than big enough. you can get the WD. green for $79. also do not buy a new 1070ti. buy used, you can get a gtx 1070 non ti for $450. huge saving.

jake93s 1 point 7 days ago

its a horrible build dude. psu costs $171, motherboard $235. thats the pricing it says to me and i stand by the fact that is a horrible case. $109 you can get a much nicer offerings from thermaltake, inwin and corsair themselves.

still even at those prices you listed you recommend a 1070ti... hahahahah. you know it performs 7% better than a 1070 in games. and gtx 1070's can be had for $450 atm http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070/3943vs3609

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Reason:
Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor 8W - 65W
MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard 17W - 70W
G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 14W - 14W
Kingston - A400 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB ARMOR Video Card 45W - 180W
Total: 90W - 359W