+1 For being waaayyyy cooler than my brother.
I think everyone wants you as a brother now.
Anyway I love the case and CPU choice. IMO if he wants a cheap upgrade for miles better performance he could get the RX 480. GTX 970/980 performance for $200, or so I'm told.
Nice budget build! +1
Considering upgrading to Polaris/pascal?
+1 For in depth title. I swear, some people just seem to pick things at random, but clearly a lot of thought went into the name of this build.
No GPU spec? whaaat, without a GPU a computer with an FX CPU is just an expensive toaster. Give us the GPU deets!
Lol, plus 1 for pointing out hypocrisy.
I've heard about this CPU! Available on ebay for like 70 bucks for a 16 thread beast! Pretty fantastic! I would love to have one of those to use for rendering in Blender. As it is, I'll probably just save up and wait for Zen. :)
Nice build! +1
For over the top CPU power I probably would have bought a Xeon E3-1231 but that's just me...
Also: Holy ****, your grandma has a gaming PC? WUUUT.
+1 for Xeon/Nano. Very unique build. I love the E3-1231, so much bang for your buck.
+1. I'd put my Titan in your NCASE any day.
What? You started it XD
Oh! and +1 for the cool case and waiting on a new GPU.
No, nobody really knows, but I already see 980s selling on ebay for 50 bucks less than they were before the 1080 was announced. Once pascal hits retail my guess is they will be at an all time low.
1070 is going to be hella powerful, no doubt about that... but if you're patient you could snatch up one of the frigging dozens of cheap as hell 970's people will be selling when they jump ship for pascal. Once pascal is retail launched, check ebay to see how cheap people will be selling their 970's and 980's. If the price is good enough just get that, it should be fine for non VR 1080p. Hate to break it to you but there is no way the 1070 is going to come close to 270 pounds.
Excellent budget Build +1
ALSO: on the topic of your upgrade parts list, like I said, wait for zen/polaris/pascal, but if you simply cannot wait; consider using a xeon instead of the i5.
for $240 you can get an 8 thread xeon at 3.4GHz. No overclocking, but it will be way faster on multi-thread applications. Gives you more longevity to the CPU as it will run better in DX12 games. LGA 1150, so you can save some cash by re-using your DDR3 RAM.
Hey, if you're going to upgrade wait until Zen, Polaris, and Pascal are out. (it is "Launched" but paper launches don't mean sh*te). That should all be by the end of the year so it shouldn't be a problem, just keep it in mind.
True, but it does kindof unbalance your whole build... Such a shame to see such a fast CPU paired with such a crappy GPU. I know it's unrealistic considering the budget, but if AMD makes good on those $250 VR ready polaris GPU's I think you should jump on it, and get another stick of ram while you're at it.
+1 For cheap as hell i5k! Some people have all the luck don't they? XD
PSU seems like an odd upgrade choice? The new GPU's coming out are supposed to be super energy efficient, unless it's just for show you probably don't need a new one. I mean, a Xeon plus a 1070 should be way less than 500 Watts.
IMO you should upgrade your RAM to 16GB@1600MHz instead of the PSU
It wont impact your performance by much, but it will be some nice future proofing.
More or less a definitive budget PC. Bravo +1
-0.1 point for that atrocious cable management though XD
I have actually been looking at that case in question for a possible cheap MicroATX replacement for all the giant full ATX case I've worked with. Can you expand on your impression of it?
Fair enough, there's no accounting for taste. XD I personally dig the V21 box shape.
I think the real question for this rig is: When are you going to upgrade the GPU? Getting a cheap card at the moment was 100% the right move because of the new cards coming out, but are you going to spring for a GTX 10XX or an R9 4XX?
Nice build! Though, not really perfect... Overall you did an excellent job and I wish I could have done something like this for my first PC and not wimping out and getting a prebuilt XD. HOWEVER, you could have avoided a lot of extra hassle with a little more careful planning.
The CPU cooler is definitely overkill for a power efficient 80W Xeon without overclocking. Plus, it my experience coolermasters can be a pain in the *** to install if you have no experience with them. You could have saved yourself a lot of hassle as the stock intel heatsink is pretty much the simplest install ever. However, now that you have it, you do have the benefit of using it for future builds. :)
The mobo/case/not enough fan connectors. I'm not really sure why you went ITX, I would find that quite limiting personally, but for the limitations of the board it might have been way simpler to go with a case like the Thermaltake V21 as it only has one giant 200mm front fan, and as the case can fit a microATX you might as well go with the Asrock Pro 4 which gives you two PCIe slots and 4 dimms.
I guess it's a bit of a moot point really as hindsight is 20/20, but still, for anyone looking to your build for inspiration those are a couple of tips I have for avoiding headaches. :)
+1 Build. Very nice selection. I think if you can afford it, eventually you should dump the i3 and go for a Xeon 1231V3. 8 threads for 250. Not overclockable, but that is a moot point with an H series mobo.
IMHO I think buying cheap was the right move! No point in buying a 980ti when it's just going to be dethroned in the coming months by the 1080... Better to just put up with 720p gaming until you can get polaris/pascal/vega :D
PSU and GPU seem like good alternative picks, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to stick to my guns on the SSD. It's way better to start with an SSD with your system files on it and upgrade your storage with a hard drive later than having to transfer those system files over.
If someone needs the storage and can't fork out the extra 50 bucks then they should go with a hard drive, but for performance it's night and day with an SSD.
Too bad you couldn't have gotten one of AMD's new "Silent solution" stock fans. Just got an FX 8370 recently and the wraith cooler on that rivals the 212 Evo.
I think you're not really getting the "completed build" thing. XD He already bought the parts, they are already in his machine, he cannot go back in time and buy these parts because you recommended them. Also: it's not a build guide so he doesn't have to list alternatives.
Normally I'd agree with you, but Newegg reviews are a valuable resource to consider nonetheless. Plus, with average review what I'm looking at is general trends, like rate of failure. Singular reviews can't really tell you how likely your item is to show up DOA or fail after 3 months.
The thing is, not everyone is going to get those defects, it's just more likely to happen than with another board. The link you used actually shows that pretty well, because obviously it worked for one person, but if you look at the 280 newegg reviews you can see that the power supply is way more problematic than that. So I stand by my point. Not a huge issue as you can always RMA the part, but it will be a hassle.
Not sure about your SOC selection, reviews on newegg seem to list a lot of defects. This offers similar performance but has gotten better reviews overall: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157494
Any particular reason you chose it over other SOC's?