Great prices on that mobo/cpu combo!
Very solid build and the parts go very well together.
Thank you. It's a shame actually that you can't put a description on the images themselves.
Why not? Wven if your CPU is the weaker part, the 1050ti would net you still more fps than the RX 460.
Yes, the cpu will bottleneck, but not that much or in such a way that choosing the gtx 1050ti would somehow make it churn out less fps than the rx 460. and it also depends on the games you play. Some games are more cpu bound, some games less, but you'll profit either way from a stronger gpu.
So... When will this build unleash its true power? Aka, when will it be completed with a GPU? :-)
Well, if it helps any, I feel offended.
I just thought in this case, it's just some unnecessary wordplay that has the potential to offend.
Nice, clean build. Do you intend to upgrade the cpu sometime soon? Btw, as you have a z170 board, I recommend overclocking the memory a bit. I read a few tests where faster memory netted higher frame rates with the i3 6100.
Love this build, great parts for a low budget build. If you want a good gpu, I can wholeheartedly recommend the RX 470. really good bang for the buck. If you need something a bit cheaper, you can't go wrong with the GTX 1050ti.
Wow, really clean and carefully put together. And great combination of parts, actually. I rock an i3 6100 too, and it doesn't cease to amaze me how well it's holding its ground (mainly for gaming and watching stuff/browsing.
They are okay now with the large holes in the boards. The gpu stays at around 72 to 75 °C max, and the CPU stays also at around 75 °C max on heavier loads. I just had a 2 hours gaming session with darksiders 2 and the GPU stayed at around 69 °C, cpu maxed at about 65. those are not to shabby temps, considering the very small form factor and the placement in the sideboard (with all the lids open and the backside of the furniture is also open).
I always like seeing the RX 470 put to good use. It's such a capable card, especially if you can get it for a good price.
I can wholeheartedly recommend the inno3d ichill 3x gtx 1070. It really is a beast of a card, stays cool, even under heavy load, and with some slight oc and thanks to nvidias gpu boost 3.0 it keeps a steady core clock of over 2000 MHz. Very impressive.
I bought it for CHF 450.-- at www.pc-ostschweiz.ch . That's about EUR 420.--, give or take. And it's with all taxes included.
Yay, another PC-console afficionado!
Those are absolutely fine temperatures, the cooling system with the case itself as passive cooling element seems to work very well.
Wow, this is... Stylish, small and silent. Yes, please post the temps, I'm really curious how well the cooling System manages to dissipate heat. I think it should be rather cool actually, the cooling Solutions Looks solid.
+1 for a small, silent and stylish System! (ss+sS)
Yay, a fellow VR enthusiast! I upgraded my build too, for optimizing the VR-experience, in the restraints my budget allowed me to.
It. Is. LOVELY!!!!
You'll certainly not regret it.
Yes, the GTX 1060 6gb is a GREAT card, definetely get one if you can stretch your budget or find a good card.
Good budget build. I wouldn't recommend the 3 GB 1060, as the VRAM is limiting the potential of this card quite some...
And why not AMD? You'll get very good bang for your buck. You should be able to find a RX 470 4GB for not too much more than a GTX 1050ti and a RX 480 4GB for about the same as a gtx 1060 3 GB. And for gaming in 1080p resolution, that will give you more than enough horsepower.
If you look at my two finished builds, I'm not attached to team green or team red. For my i3 6100 build, the RX 470 4GB works lovely in 1080p!
AMD has done VERY well with the polaris generation.
I wholeheartedly agree with you... But in the end, it still IS a very good gaming rig and you don't lose much if any fps or on Frame times compared to a higher specced CPU/mobo combination. So from pureley a gaming view, yes, it makes sense, in a GPU-raping, mobo-ignoring way.
I'd say it's a missplaced "p".
Because really, it's one of the cheapest if not the cheapest builds with a GTX 1080 in it.
And that makes absolutely sense for gaming, and gaming only. :-)
I guess that's to sync case fans with the gpu fans? Can you daisy-chain the case fans? And how is it with power the fans? Can the gpu-fan connector deliver juice to power one or even more case-fans?
Btw, HWInfo is a great tool, I use it too.
Edit: Oops, the Tool I'm using is HWmonitor. I'll have look at HWInfo
Thanks to your links at Doylls expertise I'm finally trying to change the direction of the cpu fan on my small raven built fron push to pull - I allways had the feeling that a pull config should be better for a flat rop-down cooler. Now I'll finally try it. I'm getting very high temps and managed to lowet them for about 6 to 8° by cutting holes in the boards of the sideboard. If I could shave of a few additional degrees that would make me really happy.
Thank you so much for this information! I will read through it.
I probably will build a rig for a friend in the beginning of 2017, so I can chose every component from the ground up and optimize everything as, well, optimal as possible with the budget I'll be given. Really looking forward to that. :-)
Yep, I tested thoroughly. I didn't want to open the top in order to avoid noise, so I installed 3 intake (2x front, 1x bottom) and 1 exhaust (rear), but that netted me worse results than 2 front-intake and 1 rear-exhaust. I think the bottom fan just disturbed the rather good airflow from the two front fans over the gpu, thus actually leading to higher gpu temps. I then decided to rearrange all the fans - I installed the two fans with the higher cfm as upper and lower front intake and the two fractal design fans with the lower cfm as the rear and top-rear exhausts, allowing for positive pressure in the case.
That lowered the temps on both the gpu and the cpu considerably. And I could set the fan-curves so low, that the noise is even lower than with the top rear spot closed, because I can operate the fans at a much slower speed:
Optmizing fan placement, airflow and noise REALLY is a science in itself, hehe.
Edit: didn't know about the relation between the air moved by the internal fans and the amount that has to be taken in/out of the case, but yeah, this sounds reasonable.
Astonishingly enough, I had worse temps on the gpu with a fan on the bottom.
Btw, to get the temps of the GPU a Little bit lower, I'd recommend getting an additional 140mm fan for the lower front. And you can easily remove the obivously unused HDD-Cage for unobstructed airflow. Makes quite a difference - I guess you'd bring down the GPU temps for around 3° to 5° C at least. Source: I have a define r5 with window too, and experimented quite a bit with the Position and number of fans.
Looks clean and well built! I like the white Define, looks very stylish!
Fractal Design, Phanteks and NZXT would like to have a word with you.
Just an educated guess here, but probably a leftover from an old build... Price is probably just the last listed Price for it...
Love the banana!
And nice tubing, I guess...
(But no, I'll never go liquid... never... love my Little aircooler to death...)
What thermals do you get? Your cooler shouldn't have the slightest problem to cool an 6700! Have you checked whether eberything is installed correctly? Have you applied the correct amount of thermal compound? Is the fan plugged in???
Edit: or I have been victimized by some kind of sarcasm... :-)
This build sorta gives off a Deja Vu kinda feeling
The case is sexy as ****!
On 1080p, I get around 75 fps average, around 45ish lowest, in GTA V with most settings very high (except shadows and grass, they are on high) with no MSAA and FXAA instead - looks lovely!
On Assassins Creed Revelations, everything maxed out, around 90 to 120 fps, just cause 3 on everything on max but only FXAA around 70 to 75 fps.
I am more than happy with this card! I could have got a RX 480 4gb for 30.-- more, which wouldn't have broken the bank... but I wanted the best performance/money, and this 470 was really the best performance per Swiss Franc ratio. And I wanted to go as "cheap" as possible, as this is my secondary HTPC rig...
Oh my god... How decadent have I become? A i3/rx 470 combo as my "cheap" secondary rig... auiiiii
Well, I have a Silverstone RVZ02 and use it in a horizontal position. Got some stress testing temps in the higher 80 range with the stock cooler, and brought it down to the higher 70s with an Alpenfoehn Silvretta - after cutting the boards in my sideboard above and below the airvents of my case. I guess it's the tradeoff of the small form factor case.
But just wait and see how it goes. Btw, temps during stress/high load in the 80s aren't optimal but won't kill the i3 6100. And in case temps go higher, it'd throttle itself in order to prevent damaging the cpu.
Higher temps are just normal with this small form factor cases.
Finally... some dedicated graphics in my SFF htpc build... :-)
Haven't updated the desciption yet, but the pics are in now.
Do it! But Keep an eye on the temps of the cpu - they can get very hot, even more so with the stock Intel cooler.
Nope, the RX470 is a much faster card than the gtx 1050 and most of the times also faster than the gtx 1050ti. Very good choice for a budget build gpu.
I'd say an i7 and a GTX 1070 is definetely in the high-endish range. :)
Love the i3 6100 / rx 470 combo. Got this setup myself (just got the gpu 1 day ago) and I have to say, it packs a really nice punch!
Ah, yes, and nice rig, +1
I finally scored a GPU... Now, is there a way to update this post and the rig will be posted new, or do I have to delete this build and publish it as a new build?
If you'd opt for an m2 that uses the pcie-lanes, you'd get much faster transfer rates than via sata, but I heard that the startup-time wouldn't be faster than with sata. I think that's because the Pcie lanes aren't activated by the bios during the first moments of startup or something like that... but I am not sure whether this is right - someone more knowledgebale could chime in here.
During regular use though, m2 via PCIe can theoretically transfer data with up to 32 gb/s.
There are m2 ssds that use the sata bus, there are m2 ssds that use the pcie bus... and there are mainboards where the m2 port only uses the pcie bus... so make sure to get the correct ssd if you opt for m2.
Nice, clean, red and black and enough pictures. Have an upvote. :-)
Btw, try and score a cheap SSD during the upcoming black friday/cyber mondey sales and you'll be amazed of how much faster your system will feel!
The ones you get in GTA V.
What the hell kaiju_wars, why are you using a laptop and you spent so much on your 'rig.'