The mobo has a header for the fan leds.

Yes. There is a rgb header on the mobo for the fan leds.

When I built this PC all the micro atx boards were junk and this was the smallest case this GPU would fit in.

+1 for the NITRO card!

Finally another AIB vega build! Congrats on being the 2nd build on this site with a vega AIB card.

I used all 3 fans. 2 intake in the front of the case and 1 exhaust in back. I removed the original exhaust fan that came with the case because it was white.

I had heard mixed reviews about these deepcool captain AIO's when I bought this one. I think they made some changes to the original fittings sometime last year. My mobo has a pump pin that keeps the pump at 100% at all times and I haven't had any issues.

You can see in photo 3 where the front panel pins are located center of the RAM to the right. The front panel USB is same area, bottom right of the RAM. It was very easy building in this case.

Yes please get a vega, get a aib partner card, and post the build. I'm feeling lonely with only aib vega build on this site...

I have a vega 56 and benchmarks were equal or better than 1080 and 1070ti, they are on my build page. The power consumption thing is fake news.

That's a good question. It was tight. This setup fit without any modification, the fan just barely touches the RAM.

The fans are slightly narrower than the radiator. Had the radiator been on bottom and fans above, it probably wouldn't fit as good.

This is really only an issue if you use an ITX board like I did. If you use a microATX board, the RAM should be positioned lower and out of the way of the radiator.

^ this if you want to OC your cpu. The ITX boards are better than the microATX boards. Some of the b350 ITX boards are even better than some of the full size ATX x370 boards. Look for the features you want, ram compatibility, power phases, etc. 8 phase is plenty, anything over that is just gimmicks for people that want to waste money, won't help you OC.

It's really not though. If you look at the vendor support list it is super high end ram, like 3800 speed ram, hitting 3200 on this board.

Your motherboard doesn't look very good and likely isn't compatible with your 3200 xmp ram profile. You can try to manually overclock your ram, but you'll probably get stuck at 2666 speed.

Other option is to drop to itx to fit in matx case. I did this due to lack of good options in matx. 2 solid mobo's in itx, strix b350, and asrock b350 gaming.

Exactly ITX x370 is pointless, but it says x370 and tricks all these people saying "x370 tho." These chipsets are good at tricking people and I was just saying so. I wasn't trying to be a jerk, Im just sick of what I have been seeing on these forums. I know hardware and I know overclocking and I know where to spend and where to save.

I have seen this over and over for the last 2 weeks on every topic from monitors to cpu coolers. No one knows anything and is just regurgitating what they saw on youtube. Lucky for them, everyone else here is doing the same thing.

Everything I said about the b350 chipset and the strix b350 is accurate. But someone can link a x370 board with no real added value to the OP and get a bunch of "upvotes?" That is a mob of misinformed people.

Oh a better IO now? For 100 dollars? The only difference is SLI support. This site has become a club of misinformed, back patting each other with upvotes lol.

Again and again and again. The chipset DOESN'T MATTER FOR OVERCLOCKING! Only the features of the specific board! Like I have said repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly! So yes, the b350 strix board will perform better than that asrock x370 board you linked me that doesn't even support 3k memory speed. The fact that is it x370 is meaningless! Same as 2 identical boards with different chipsets (strix x370 and strix b350) they will perform THE SAME REGARDLESS OF CHIPSET! YOUR ONLY SPENDING MORE MONEY FOR THE SAKE OF SPENDING MORE MONEY! NO SLI, NO POINT! PERIOD! GET IT YET?

Get schooled kid.

Now you're linking me an x370 board as a "value" board to my b350? Really? You guys are on a whole new level here.

Oh it says x370! It must be amazing! It must clock better than my b350!..... Doesn't even support 3000+ ram lul....

You obviously didn't read my first post about checking for OC ram compatibility.....

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132988&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Tell me that is 110 with rebate. Either way. Still wrong. Not even 70 dollars worth of value for someone not running sli.

I agree with getting the strix motherboard... The b350 strix, the one I mentioned in my first post? The one that's 89 dollars? The one that's just as good for the submitter as the strix x370? The 190 dollar board that has been "upvoted" that brings no value for it's +100 dollar price tag?

Huh? I bought a b350? Cuz the extra lanes in x370 are worthless to me... Just like they are to everyone not running SLI...

There is more value in spending on the chip over the board.

If he has extra money to spend, it should be on the chip. Cuz the 100 dollars on the chipset isn't gonna do anything for him!

There is no value in the strix x370 board over the strix b350 board for the submitter. Period. That's it. You lose. You guys are clowns and don't like being told so.

you get a 1700 and a strix x370 and ill meet or beat your clock with the strix b350.

The submitter doesn't know why he even wants the crosshair hero, it's just the most expensive one you can buy! That's what people that don't know any better do! He is asking for advice and why and what and how. Now you're gonna tell me, that you're gonna tell him, that he has value in spending an extra 100 dollars on the strix x370? You guys are wrong and just don't like being told.

You guys just regurgitate "x370 cuz better." I tell the guy what he needs, what he doesn't need, difference between chipsets, what to look for on a board and how to get the best deal and how not to get screwed by the "duh x370 cuz" reviews.

Not directed at you. I have been afk from this site for a long time and these forums have gotten silly with misinformation.

The best advice is to look somewhere else for PC help. This site has become a club of misinformed, back patting each other with these things they call upvotes.

Now you're gonna tell me it makes a difference? A 100 dollars difference at that? lol you guys are silly.

Yet you'll sit here and argue with me about nothing instead of tell the guy suggesting the to submitter to spend an extra 100 bucks for nothing on a strix x370 over a strix b350 he is wrong?

Saying x370! x370! just because it is the flagship chipset is stupidity, but somehow everyone here agrees with it. You still have to take board considerations with x370. There are x370 boards I wouldn't touch.

That's EXACTLY what I said in my first post! The people on this site are silly.

It has nothing to do with the chipset and everything to do with quality of the components used

Exactly. Thank you.

The chipset is perfectly fine for overclocking. The difference is board features as I stated. OC ram capability, 8-pin power, vrm count, heatsinks, etc. You must not have read everything I said.

You think there is a difference between the x370 asus strix and the b350 asus strix for his build? Other than torching 100 dollars? lol

The b350 and x370 boards seem to be overclocking the same. Only real difference for gaming is SLI, which most people aren't using anymore. So b350 is going to be just fine for most, just need to look for key features. 8-pin cpu power, OC ram compatible, heatsinks on the vrms, etc. Find those features and you should have a good board. I am partial to asus, I bought an asus b350 strix board and it's working great. Got a solid OC on it, board stays cool, no complaints so far.

You'll have to buy a used reference card to use an EK full block. AMD quit shipping reference cards. Now only shipping gpu/memory packages to AIB partners. And EK usually doesn't make blocks for amd AIB boards.

Yes access to future chips matters. I just explained it with skylake and coffee lake! I agree that amd will be updating hardware, but they will also support all previous am4 chipsets as they go. That is the difference.

Because you can buy it now and still have access to future chips? The whole point of this discussion?

The original question was z370 or x370? Intels 2 generation per chipset is perfect reasoning. I just explained how there are meaningful upgrades that could be had if intel supported them. The x370 chipset is fairly new in amd timelines and is already showing support for future chips. Intel has artificially killed their last 2 chipsets. Why would anyone buy z370 over x370?

There is absolutely no reason, other than intel BS, that z170 and z270 chipsets are not supported for coffee lake. Period. Anyone that bought a z170 or z270 board should be pissed. The boards are not "outdated" and the chips are a "meaningful" upgrade.

8 core coffee lake will not a be a meaningful upgrade to 6700k? Just stop.

No upgrade path? There is absolutely no reason coffee lake and the upcoming 8 core coffee lake isn't supported on z170 boards. For that, Im done with Intel for a while.

In 2011 I bought an am3+ 970 amd board for a phenom processor. 3 years later I could upgrade it to a fx 8350 8 core processor for nothing more than a bios flash.

I built a skylake machine a little over a year ago and the chipset is already dead. I can only hope amd never forces me to build another intel pc again.

Yea with retailers in on it now, it's impossible to get a decent price on vega until the gouging is over. I noticed I was the first completed AIB vega build on this site and still the only one I have seen so far. I just have to keep looking...

I wouldn't build on Intel right now. AM4 is going to last longer. Board partners are already updating b350 and x370 bios for next gen Ryzen.

Ok. That's kinda disappointing. Never had issues like that personally. I guess you could talk to asus or gskill. At this point if it were me, I would manually OC the ram with the cpu.

Check your bios to see if it is current with the bios on the driver list. My b350 asus board was shipped with out of date bios, I updated it, and now there is another new bios for improved performance just released a few days ago.

EDIT. Have you OC'd your cpu yet? The faster ram speed could also cause a thought to be stable cpu OC to lose stability.

Yes, docp is the asus bios tool that converts xmp profile to amd. Are you not getting advertised speed with this setting? And yes, you can usually get more speed out of your ram when you manually oc.

Are you overclocking manually or using the xmp profile? I haven't had any issues getting the advertised speeds out of g.skill ram on asus b350 motherboards.