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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Need help will this list fit on the H200 Case?"

  • 3 hours ago
  • 1 point

In terms of "raw" performance you can do better for under $1350 CAD

  • Ryzen 3600 CPU - 10%-12% faster single threaded clock speeds and 50%-60% more compute performance for multi-threaded workloads. These are extremely significant advantages with the newer Ryzen 3600 for only $50 on top. The Chip also comes with a decent stock cooler hence you can drop the AIO for now (possibly a future upgrade if you prefer the AIO aesthetics)

  • 1TB fast NVME SSD

  • upgraded to RTX 2060 gaming card. This one is optional - if you are targeting a build for higher refresh rate gaming (eg. 144hz) the 2060 would be the better candidate. If you're happy at 60fps/60hz gaming, you don't need to look past the GTX 1660 TI.

  • To answer the question, yes 550W is more than sufficient for the previous and suggested build.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $258.25 @ shopRBC
Motherboard MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard $164.99 @ Newegg Canada
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $129.21 @ shopRBC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING AMP Video Card $439.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Case NZXT - H200 Mini ITX Tower Case $104.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $108.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1326.41
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-15 13:24 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 3700X build + monitor suggestion"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

If you are utilising your current SSD at max, no harm in picking a fast 1TB SSD for the long run (if the budget permits). I actually picked up a few similar ones to spread across a couple of work builds, in excess of use-case requirements just for the sake of it :)

About the RTX 2080 SUPER - i take it back, these are officially confirmed for $700 (had to check the source itself). Not bad considering the 2080 TI maintains its path as "day light robbery".

For the mobo, no problem! If certain features rise ahead per preference, grab which ever suits you best.

The linked ASUS display, uses the same panel as the ACER model (linked previously) which is supplied by the same manufacturer. The differences between the 2 are: 1. Asus employs a more fashionable exterior for added aesthetics (subjectively speaking) and an incy wincy bit better navigational OSD settings with a joystick on the back (not a real biggie) - and then slaps on a $130 premium for 1 & 2 + brand value. So it's down to user preference. I picked up the Acer variant some time ago!!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 3700X build + monitor suggestion"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

Should I get the 3900X? (I do have about $250CAD for any upgrades)

The 3900X does hold meaningful benefit "if" your workloads can scale effectively across 12 cores and 24 threads. For gaming you don't need anything beyond a Ryzen 3600 CPU. A 3700X already being a nice overkill which may have greater potential in the long run.

Gaming 4K@60Hz or 1440P@120+Hz.

For gaming, definitely a 1440p/144hz - a very nice sweet spot for sharp image quality and higher refresh rate (or FPS) smoother frame output. With a higher end graphics card, this balance not only offers an excellent gaming experience but greater longevity in maintaining performance for the years ahead. 4K on the other hand is already too demanding and more likely to dip below 60fps in AAA titles on ultra presets (or more so in newer demanding releases).

Not sure where you are with your budget for the display, but here's a very decent option with 1440p / 144hz 27" curved / VA panel for smarter colours and better viewing angles / FREESYNC panel which supports GSYNC too with Nvidias latest driver patch. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/p4WfrH/msi-optix-mag27cq-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-optix-mag27cq

If the budget has wings: All the above, but a dedicated GSYNC panel and IPS screen for best natural colour production + excellent viewing angles. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/ttnG3C/acer-monitor-xb271hubmiprz

Cheaper lesser-enthusiast options are available (less VA/IPS/frame sync tech/etc)

Please let me know if any components should be replaced or updated.

  1. Unless your workloads can benefit from a superior sequential read/write NVME SSD I wouldn't bother with the MP510. For gaming, your current WD 1TB unit will deliver pretty much the same performance.

  2. Factory overclocked AIB partner RTX 2070 SUPER card almost matches the 2080's performance for far less. A nice option to consider for 1440p gaming. Just an option, should the RTX 2080 SUPER turn up too expensive for a marginal increase in performance (hope not, anyway). I just hope it's as promising as the 2070 to 2070 super transition with a similar price range whilst boasting a 15% uplift in game performance.

  3. A 650W power supply is more than sufficient for this type of build.

  4. Since RYZEN 3000 CPUs aren't seeing much OC potential, if you fancy some savings, you could potentially drop down to a decent mid-tier B450/X470 motherboard. These are absolutely fit for the task with 6/8 core chips with no real signs of any loss of performance. Some of these older boards are equipped with flash BIOS buttons which makes the process a little easier opposed to grabbing a previous gen CPU to upgrade the BIOS. EG. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac (WIFI integration incl.)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard, Case, and Fan Setup"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

AMENDMENT: I thought i'd have a quick look at the newer X570 motherboards in the $150'ish price band. Surprisingly, both MSI and ASUS feature two 3-pin 5V addressable headers on their entry level X570 offerings. "Entry level" here means "excellent performance or overkill" for 6 core/8 core CPUs. Considering the B450 is priced similarly, I'd opt for the X570 which adds a couple of additional features which may be useful somewhere down the line (added I/O functionality, PCIE 4.0, beefier VRM/power phase configurations, etc)

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=138&m=8,27&sort=price&page=1&X=0,17173

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard, Case, and Fan Setup"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

Unfortunately the 5v header functionality is mostly available on more expensive motherboards which exceed the $150 mark. For example, a non-wifi integrated option from MSI is the higher end X470 CARBON PRO coming in at $180.

The case also supports ASUS's AURASYNC for addressable RGB, but boards which support 5v 3-pin headers are higher end enthusiast models ranging from around $200-$250

In other words, if you absolutely want the proprietary motherboard RGB sync functionality to go hand in hand with the case, this one is pretty much your best bet for around 150 bucks: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac


If you don't mind me asking what is the build for? (gaming/streaming/editing/rendering/etc)

Have you purchased any of the listed parts already? I would look to make some changes without pushing past the listed budget - all within good reason!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Confused between options, My first PC EVERRR"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC or Asus ROG Strix Z390-E MSI is cheaper and has more ports but every one is going the Asus am i missing something?

ASUS is more expensive, let's just call it brand value or BIOS tweak familiarity.

I would grab the MSI any day of the week!

If you're looking to overclock to get the best out of the 9700K, and don't mind forking out $230, grab the ASROCK TAICHI https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TnhKHx/asrock-z390-taichi-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z390-taichi

be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4, is this a good option or is more that i need. what alternetive is there if this more that i need

Overclocking - great option!

Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32 GB 3200MHz or the G.SKILL 32GB (2 x 16GB) Ripjaws 3200MHz

Neither, this one: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pGqbt6/corsair-memory-cmk32gx4m2b3000c15 (CL15 3000Mhz is practically the same speed as 3200Mhz 16CL, yet $10 less)


Depending on your workload and how well it scales over multiple cores / threads, have you considered AMD's newer ZEN 2 3000-series chips?

3700X - 8 cores / double the threads $329 3900X - 12 cores / double the threads $499

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Very First Build - Any Assistance Appreciated"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

a 2000 quid budget begs for a 1440p 144hz 27" large sharper image gaming panel. Trust me mate, once you go 1440p, there ain't no turning back.

For gaming the i9-9900K is overkill. 2 best options at the moment: Either the i7-9700K or if you don't plan on overclocking, the AMD Ryzen 3600X

If you're not planning on overclocking, this works very nicely:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor £234.99 @ CCL Computers
Motherboard MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard £114.99 @ CCL Computers
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £84.99 @ Corsair UK
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £100.79 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card £475.00 @ Amazon UK
Case NZXT - H700 ATX Mid Tower Case £124.98 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £85.47 @ Amazon UK
Monitor AOC - AG273QCX 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £421.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1643.20
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-14 02:33 BST+0100

(you could also wait a little longer to grab the RTX 2080 Super - expected soon - should fit the £2000 budget)


If overclocking is part and parcel with the build ( also assuming you fancy an AIO cooler for the aesthetics):

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor £358.38 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £119.99 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard £167.99 @ AWD-IT
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £84.99 @ Corsair UK
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive £100.79 @ Amazon UK
Video Card Asus - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card £475.00 @ Amazon UK
Case NZXT - H700 ATX Mid Tower Case £124.98 @ AWD-IT
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £85.47 @ Amazon UK
Monitor AOC - AG273QCX 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £421.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £1939.58
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-14 02:37 BST+0100

(again there are options to pipe down a little with the spec without compromising performance to accommodate the RTX 2080 SUPER)


Although both options have a foot-print to encourage the RTX 2080 Super, it's certainly not necessary. The RTX 2070 Super is super-equipped to handle 1440p resolution gaming whilst averaging on 80-120fps on ultra presets in demanding games. In other words, plenty of performance at your finger tips for the long run.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Advice on a Few Parts of New Rig"

  • 1 day ago
  • 2 points

CPU. I chose the Intel i7-9700k because I saw it ranked the best CPU for gaming currently. However, if I get this, do I need to overclock it? If I don't overclock it, would I be wasting the specialty of the chip?

The newer Ryzen 3600/3600X ($200/$250) is seen to perform better than the 9700K in a number of games at stock conditions. Where the 9700K holds advantage over the 3000-series AMD stack is it's overclocking potential. At stock conditions both chips pretty much operate the same, trading blows in titles with negligible disparity. The 3600/3600X easily takes the win IMO, coming in @ $150 cheaper.

For the 9700K's overclocking advantage, you're essentially looking to spend $150 more for the chip itself, then another $50-$80 for a beefed up aftermarket cooler. That's a total of around $200/$230 more. In return, with the OC in place, the performance difference achieved averages around +8-15fps depending on game. The cost-2-performance ratio here kinda sucks unless overclocking enthusiasm adds value here. for me, $200+ for small real-time unnoticeable gains in FPS is money not-so-well-spent.

If you're targeting a higher resolution gaming panel (eg. 1440p), the 9700K's OC advantage is pretty much lost at sea as higher resolution gaming is more GPU-bound opposed to CPU hence giving greater credence to the AMD 3600/3600X solution.

Mobo. I've been informed the i7-9700k pairs with the Z390 Mobo sets. However I'm seeing that there are variations of the MOBO. Example, the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi, the Aorus Elite, Aorus Ultra, the Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming. Whats the difference based on my other intended parts? And is there a certain level of Mobo that is required to bring out the performance of my other components?

The Z-series mobos, as suggested, pair up with purpose - overclocking!

Ideally any decent motherboard will do the job just fine. Just check for your most "required" features or I/O connectivity (which all decent mid-ranged mobos in the $150+ bracket deliver). Some higher end mobos account for some added Overclocking headroom with beefier VRM heatsinks, power phases, etc.

Cooler. I initially looked at the Coolermaster ML240R, but then was told it was insufficient cooling for the i7-9700k. The PC builders recommended the NZXT Kraken X72. Could I use the CM ML360R instead? Would that be better? (it's definitely cheaper)

A beefed up premium air cooler works just as well as AIOs. Air coolers from $50-$90. AIOs $90-$150. The difference in price here is not necessarily based on performance, but accounts for aesthetics/RGB. 360mm AIOs have been seen to offer some additional favour in keeping temps down, but nothing major. You certainly don't need AIOs for overclocking, unless preference suggests otherwise

Case. Any recommendations on other good looking cases? I like black and red, full glass panel and some lighting. Also if I do get the ML360R cooler, that would have lighting as well, so it would need to match?

That's a tough one. My personal liking for a red/black contrast points towards the following:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/kXhKHx/nzxt-h700-blackred-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h700b-br (all round - great)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/q3smP6/nzxt-h500-blackred-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h500b-br (a nice compact minimalist case, although could be better with airflow)

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Kg4NnQ/phanteks-eclipse-p400s-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec416pstg_br (could be a little better with airflow)


IMO:

If you haven't considered already, or don't own one, maybe it's time to push up on 1440p higher refresh rate gaming. Higher resolution gaming = equals larger panels whilst maintaining sharp image quality.

If this is of interest, I would consider the following build:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $248.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $94.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.95 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $529.99 @ B&H
Case NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $76.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $91.89 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1301.80
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-13 21:18 EDT-0400

If you have dollars to splash, options:

  1. Wait for the RTX 2080 Super

  2. If you fancy the AIO route + overclocking, swap out for the 9700K

  3. Whatever else makes you happy in terms of aesthetics (mobo, case, RGB, etc etc)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Very First Build - Any Assistance Appreciated"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

help us, help you:

  1. Purpose of use? (gaming/steaming/editing/rendering/etc)

  2. Current budget?

  3. Display resolution and refresh rate? (eg. 1080p 60hz)

  4. Are you planning on overclocking?

If gaming is on the forefront for this build, I would look to secure a newer and more powerful gaming card (assuming your display specs can make use of the added performance). The 2 card solution for gaming in current times hits a dead-end with very little support on-the-go and poor performance delivery which ends up underscoring, crashing, game load black screens, etc etc. Where it does work in a handful of gaming titles, doesn't justify the asking price for doubling up.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Motherboard, Case, and Fan Setup"

  • 1 day ago
  • 1 point

The tomahawk delivers x2 4-pin RGB headers on the motherboard. The case uses a 3-pin 5v connector. Hence it's not compatible. If you have already purchased the build, you can still use the dedicated case button to run through RGB profiles and colours.

For the motherboards RGB software to run in sync with the case, you'll need a motherboard with a 3-pin 5v RGB header. Eg. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/t797YJ/msi-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-gaming-pro-carbon-ac

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What GPU should I upgrade to?"

  • 2 days ago
  • 2 points

The RX 570 is an excellent value card and very capable of holding up @ 60fps+. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/3JdFf7/msi-radeon-rx-570-8gb-armor-oc-video-card-rx-570-armor-8g-oc

You mentioned the budget being "around" $250 CAD. For $288, the GTX 1660 offers a 30% greater performance advantage if you fancy a gaming card with a little extra life-line. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hNKcCJ/zotac-geforce-gtx-1660-6-gb-gaming-video-card-zt-t16600f-10l

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1500-2000 USD Gaming 1080/144hz"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

With that in mind would you say the 3700x is a better longterm investment from the 8 cores as well?

The 8-core conjecture here would be completely speculative, as the 6-core alternatives are already just "entering" the playing field as the new gaming standard thanks to the performance to value options currently available. In other words, taking a 6 core chip today is already a nice future-proof investment. With double the threads, game dev optimisation exploits have more room to play with to uncap more performance for the long run (some are poorly executed currently which is expected to change with newer gaming titles).

The 8 core solution is more of an untapped luxury which may prove "more" beneficial in the long run for gamers. If you are planning on streaming or have other workloads which can utilise the extra cores and threads, the 8-core unit absolutely makes sense, otherwise it's purely optional. I'm currently gaming with an inferior 4 core 8 threaded i7-7700K (2017) paired up with a GTX 1080 TI and it handles everything and anything I throw at it whilst maintaining the desired higher refresh rate (90-130fps) and top in-game quality presets (mostly ULTRA). In other words, even a 4-core recent GEN CPU is more than capable of smooth sailing for a number of years to come which already makes a current GEN 6-core processor a very lucrative investment for going forward.

6 core options: RYZEN 3600 / 3600X ($200/$250)

I like the dual storage setups better as well if you could maybe shuffle things around to give me an idea would be appreciated.

You can always add additional storage later. The 2-drive solution was more of a value option since SSD's were rather expensive. With NVME SSD's seeing a huge drop in cost at the consumer level, it makes sense grabbing a 1TB unit now and then when needed, adding additional storage later. Basically a few seconds faster boot times for games, or a 1-2 secs faster OS boot ups and phenomenally fast transfer speeds may interest you in sticking with the single unit for now.

Alternatively, you can swap things around, for a 500GB SSD and drop in a 1TB/2TB hard drive.

Also would like a X570 Mobo to not need to deal with bios flashing.

The X570s will demand a higher premium starting from $30/$40 on top. https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#f=2&sort=price&c=138

If you fancy saving some money, there are B450/X470 mobos available with a Flash BIOS button which doesn't require a previous GEN Ryzen CPU for the BIOS update.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 3000 help"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

You don't need to purchase higher end mobos for 3000-SERIES CPUs.

For example, for a 6 core multi-threaded 3600/3600X, a previous gen B450 for $70-$90 will do the job very nicely. The same applies with 8-core 16 thread CPUs. You also have decent X470 options starting from $100.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "1500-2000 USD Gaming 1080/144hz"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

For best value and a solid performing gaming build @ 1080p 144hz:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $248.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $127.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.95 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $529.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $91.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1247.90
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-11 19:35 EDT-0400

If overclocking for some added juice, the intel route:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $364.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $88.09 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock - Z390 Taichi ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $229.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.95 @ Amazon
Video Card EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card $529.99 @ B&H
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $91.99 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1554.98
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-11 19:38 EDT-0400

The intel solution with a $250 i5-9600K is also a viable option for gaming with almost equal output in real-time noticeable performance. Also a decent $50-$60 cooler would suffice very nicely for credible overclocking potential. The 9700K's 8-physical cores simply makes for the better investment for the long run and the $88 cooler opening up some additional headroom if you fancy comfortably hitting 5GHz+.

Also from an aesthetics perspective, we're far from hitting the $2000 mark, hence if RGB or AIO coolers are something of interest, there is room to play up these options without exceeding past $1600 (hopefully, as some are RGB-nuts)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming/Editing PC Build. Thoughts?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

If you're open to a 6-core 12 threaded CPU, i would look to grab the newer Ryzen 3600 for $200. Again, excellent power efficiency, 10-15% performance increase, etc.

Whether either of these options are 'worth it' depends entirely on your purpose of use and how well your workload can scale across the cores. For gaming and multi-tasking in General, you don't need to look past the Ryzen 3600. The 3600 offers plenty of GAME-PERFORMANCE for a long time to come. If your editing workflow can benefit from faster export rendering, in-house project scaling, etc, the 8-core solution is desirable but not necessary. It boils down to user preference and the willingness to spend a little more for faster rendering times.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming/Editing PC Build. Thoughts?"

  • 3 days ago
  • 1 point

For an almost $1500 build, you'll want to secure AMD's newer Ryzen 3700X CPU. The 3700X is also an 8 core 16 thread processor, adding improved power efficiency and 10-15% increase in single threaded and multi-threaded performance.

Nvidia also recently launched their "super" variants of the 2000-series GPUs. The RTX 2060 super card (pushed to 8GB VRAM) matches the 2070 founder editions performance. at an equal footing - which pretty much makes the 2070 a little pointless considering the 2060 Super is achievable for $50 less.

Other changes:

  • a 24" VA gaming panel (GSYNC compatible)

  • A little more premium case with a PSU shroud (keeping things nice and clean) and excellent airflow.

  • Motherboard is wifi integrated (comes with antennas too). You could save some cash here by grabbing a non-wifi mobo for $90 and picking up a decent wifi PCIE card for $30. Although, personally I rather pay a little extra for the integrated solution as I prefer not installing PCIE cards below the GPU (a possible 'minor' obstacle for free-flowing airflow for the GPU fans).

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $159.99 @ Newegg
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $94.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.95 @ Amazon
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X Video Card $414.99 @ Newegg
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $83.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $179.97 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1452.77
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-11 18:23 EDT-0400

If for any reason you fancy more GPU power, although at 1080p the RTX 2060 Super is more than sufficient for higher FPS gaming - you might want to look at Nvidias newer RTX 2070 SUPER (10-15% performance uplift over the 2060) but does ask for around $100 on top.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "installing windows to m.2 drive"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

Are you familiar with installing Windows in general? If yes, it's pretty much the same routine. The M.2 connect is just an alternative method of connecting a storage device to the system

If its your first time installing windows and you already have the Windows installation media: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwjISmkEJM (skip to 4:50)

Just a quick note: If you have additional storage connected, unplug the SATA cables. Only have the primary boot drive connected. After the installation is complete, simply plug in the additional devices.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Please help im new to pc!"

  • 4 days ago
  • 1 point

On the same platform, the FX 8000-SERIES CPUs will offer some improvements but not enough to warrant impressive results. Also you'd be forced to look for a bargain in the used market for a more equitable performance-2-price option ($35-$50 / FX-8350 / FX-8370). In my personal opinion the same platform is not worth the upgrade b

If you're happy to push past the current AM3 platform (which is the commendable option if the budget permits), you will need to secure a newer AM4 motherboard and DDR4 RAM alongside the CPU (Ryzen 3600/above would be nice). This will allow you to unlock GPU resources to get the best out of your gaming card. These upgrades may cost around $350 or around $275, if opting for a previous GEN chip which will also offer size-ably worthwhile improvements over your current processor.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What do you guys think of this build? I'm torn between navi and 2060super"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

Yes! AMD partner cards will employ chunkier heatsinks and more effective heatpipes, with x2/x3 axial fans to maximise cooling benefits. With an improved cooling solution you can also expect the fans to run at lower RPM's which results to lower noise levels. In any case, significant improvements are always expected with open-type cards opposed to closed in blower cards - that too with decent case airflow for maximum benefit.

I recently viewed a 5700 gpu disassembly video from gamers nexus as I was a little baffled as to why "improved power efficiency" did not result to cooler runnings. As suspected, AMD placed very little emphasis on their cooling blend, presumably to save cost for what is i guess a "value" card. IMO, simply not good enough to compete at the level AMD is targeting.

Good news is, some AIB partners/agents have already confirmed custom designed cards for mid-August.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What do you guys think of this build? I'm torn between navi and 2060super"

  • 5 days ago
  • 1 point

2060 super outperforms NAVI 5700 by 5-10%

NAVI 5700 'XT' outperforms the 2060 Super by 5-10%

The Nvidia card runs cooler and quieter

The AMD 5700 is 50 bucks cheaper

The AMD 5700 'XT' costs the same as the 2060 Super, but does run hot + noisy


Although im hugely in favour of the Navi compo, im not so much excited for the blower type cards which could have seen a more vigorous cooling solution, primarily to keep noise levels down. All is not south from here since AIB partner NAVI cards are expected to remedy the issue (or preference). Only problem being, these are not officially confirmed with a launch date and may roll in in August, or September.

If you absolutely want to cash in now, the 2060 SUPER offers a great balance of worthy performance (not far behind the 5700 XT), comfortable load temperatures whilst gaming and bearable acoustics without having to ramp up fan RPMs.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First ryzen 3600 build is this a good build"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Looks great! Although if you pipe down on some of the spec without compromising performance, you can add a RTX 2060 or wait a little longer and add a small extra to the budget for a AIB partner RX 5700 graphics card.

EG:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $199.00 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard $94.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Video Card $339.99 @ Amazon
Case Cooler Master - MasterBox MB520 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case $89.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.90 @ Amazon
Monitor AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $179.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1123.73
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-09 10:37 EDT-0400

some notes:

  • Faster SSD added

  • 3600Mhz 19CL memory is technically slower or runs at an equal footing with 3000Mhz 16CL. Hence 3000Mhz for less makes sense.

  • Display swapped for a VA panel (better colour arrangement + improved viewing angles over TN models). This ones also GSYNC compatible.

  • The added PSU, although it's semi modular, its a newer and better quality unit. Improved protection features, more power efficient and 550W is more than sufficient! If you prefer fully modular: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bkp323/seasonic-focus-plus-gold-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-550fx (there's the EVGA G3 model available too for less, although does run a little louder but compensates with more flexible cabling)

  • certainly not in the least, a 15-20% faster GPU - RTX 2060. The newer AMD 5700 for $350 would be the best option in this price range, although i'm not so big on the blower type cards (higher noise levels and thermals - something AIB partner cards will resolve in the coming days/weeks/etc)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New PC overheating HELP"

  • 6 days ago
  • 2 points

How are you measuring "very hot"?

CPU temps?

GPU temps?

Etc?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How do I sync the lighting with this build?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

The motherboard on-board RGB elements, RGB RAM and GPU will run fine with the motherboard manufacturers downloadable RGB software (Aura Sync).

The AIO on the other hand will require Corsairs iCue software.

Unfortunately AuraSync and iCue cannot be syned together, although can be easily configured individually for matching or similar matching profiles/functions. Since you've already purchased the rig its no big deal but there are AuraSync compatible RGB coolers available too.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "$3000 Corsair rgb gaming pc - how many intake and exhaust fans?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

Can those 3 fans be intake and since the 500d comes with 3 ll120 fans, I can use the fan in the back of the pc as intake and the top 2 fans as exhaust.

Yes these can be used as intake.

For best airflow movement, you want less turbulence and smoother sailing with x3 for intake, x3 for exhaust. Basically use the rear fan (back of the case) also as exhaust.

In personal test environments, I have tried the rear fan intake model which fared quite well with CPU temps maintaining consistency but the GPU temps saw a slight increase in temps. With higher end power hungry gaming cards, you'll want the best fan orientation to keep things running as cool as possible - hence, rear exhaust!

BTW - you're paying a little extra for the H150i's premium fans. If these are not expected to be put to service, maybe consider an alternative 360mm rad with cheaper entry level fans.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Top fans or AIO radiator?"

  • 6 days ago
  • 1 point

....but i wonder if i should use an AIO...

"should" generally defines to an indispensable requirement. An AIO is not that! The Pro 4 cooler will get the job done as well as an AIO and it's totally fit for overclocking modern day CPUs (if thats the idea).

AIO's are trending as a preference for aesthetics, RGB or subjectively speaking - cleaner looking builds! Performance-wise you can't really set them apart from premium HSF offerings. A compelling argument for sticking with traditional air coolers is long term reliability and not having to worry about leaks. So it's down to personal preference.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New PC for Gaming using either 5700XT or 2070 Super"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

is the $100+ jump in price to the 3600/3600x worth it?

This ones down to personal preference as the 2600 simply gets the job done, although may struggle to hit the 144fps mark as these chips are known to cap out around 120fps (regardless of lower in-game settings). The 3600 offers a nice 15% push in single threaded performance - although when applying the performance to dollar evaluation the 2600 holds strong as a better value-buy. Which drops the dilemma: "Do i go with a decent performer for less or do I want the best without breaking the bank". Personally, i'd grab the 3600 and drop the AIO for a more cost-effective and equally well performing cooling solution. 15% uplift core clock cycles is a pretty sizeable mark-up which holds truer for a more future-proof investment.

I would also need one of the new matching motherboards (x570) too, right?

The X570 is a better fit for Ryzen 3900X/3950X CPUs (12/16 core chips). A decent mid-ranged B450/X470 is more than sufficient for any of the newer Ryzen 6/8 core CPUs. As suspected, recent benchmarks are showing next to ZERO performance difference when running on either chipsets.

so it sounds like I'll just wait for the 2070 Super

Good plan! Or honestly, if you have time on your hands wait for the 5700XT AIB partner cards (not sure when these are expected, but soon) to see how they stack up in terms of thermals and noise levels. These are charged a $100 less with founder cards, hence some sizeable saving may be possible. Alternatively, jump right in with 2070 SUPER (best of the 2) with greater confidence in driver support and configurable stability (NAVI cards are having a few issues at the code level, but nothing too alarming as a fix is always around the corner).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 3rd Gen Upgrade"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

Looks great!

Last I checked, the newer "2070 Super" was only marginally priced higher (i believe around $25 'USD') with 20% faster performance. Performance is expected to rival the previous GEN 1080 TI, hence worth the wait, especially @ 1440p resolutions.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time gaming/editing build help"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

For 1080p gaming, not really! The specs are fantastic!

The only area for improvement is as mentioned earlier, newer GPU offerings: NVIDIA RTX 2060 SUPER or AMD RX 5700.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "New PC for Gaming using either 5700XT or 2070 Super"

  • 7 days ago
  • 1 point

If you have the budget, why not opt for the newer GEN offerings (Ryzen 3600)?

Double the capacity, faster NVME SSD which doesn't require cable connects for the same price: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/pxKcCJ/crucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8

GPU: as things stand, the 5700XT's performance is great but thermals/noise levels leave a bad taste for first-hand user experience. Blower type cards are never a friendly option! Personally I'd wait for either:

  1. 5700 XT aftermarket third party vendor cards with improved cooling solutions (chunkier heatsinks, dual/triple fan cooling, etc)

  2. or grab the RTX 2070 SUPER (10-12% better performance, better power efficiency with lower noise levels). For higher resolution gaming @ 1440p, the 2070 super would be nice, unless cost inequality is criminally discriminatory (in CAD).

The above (CPU+GPU) is easily achievable if you ditch the AIO cooler and grab a more reasonably priced $40-$50 CAD air cooler.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Ryzen 3600 $1500 (First build)"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

For $24 more:

  • Upgraded to 1060 TI (capable of hitting 100fps in demanding games on top settings)

  • Higher refresh rate display (144hz) for hitting past 60fps (up to 144fps) for smoother visual quality.

  • Higher bandwidth RAM which works out cheaper.

  • A single 1TB SSD - more storage for less

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $269.00
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $156.99 @ PC-Canada
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $129.21 @ shopRBC
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $377.65 @ Amazon Canada
Case Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case $114.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $94.99 @ Amazon Canada
Monitor AOC - G2460PF 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $218.35 @ Amazon Canada
Keyboard Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard $40.69 @ Amazon Canada
Mouse Redragon - M602 Wired Optical Mouse $19.99 @ Amazon Canada
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1501.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-07 13:12 EDT-0400

If you absolutely can't hit past $1476, possibly grab a 500GB SSD for now and look to upgrade to more storage later.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Just starting out as a builder I think this is all right but I’m free to change"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

A good build but within budget there is room for improvement (better value + greater performance) with newer offerings from AMD/NVIDIA.

Nvidia GPU: RTX 2060 SUPER ($400)

AMD GPU: RX 5700 ($350)

The RX 5700 is expected to match/trade blows with the 2060 super's performance and comes in for 50 bucks less. Both are newer entries launched in July/7th July. It would be a good idea to wait a little longer to see how the cards measure via independent benchmarks, before pulling the trigger.

On the CPU side of things, you may appreciate AMD's launch of the RX 3600. To simplify, excellent value @ $200, matching intels performance with single threaded clock speeds and with the addition of multi-threaded support (30%ish greater performance for workloads optimised for multi-threaded support). In your case, if streaming is something you are open to on the software encoding front, the additional support here makes sense! Alternatively, there are 8 core/16 threaded alternatives for a more streamlined approach for heavier simultaneous compute power (if you are willing to spend a little more).

Lastly, with 1TB SSDs achievable for around $100, i would ditch the 2-drive solution all-together and stick with one faster storage unit. Thats only around $20 more for a speedier SSD with nippier transfer speeds and faster game load times.

EG. (only $40 more for some desirable performance uplift)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $300.00
Motherboard MSI - B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard $94.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
GPU AMD RX 5700 Graphics Card (launched today) $350.00
Storage Crucial - P1 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.95 @ Amazon
Case NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $74.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Corsair
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1039.91
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-07 09:49 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Wait for RTX Super GPUs or buy now?"

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

The 2070 super is seeing a pretty sizeable performance uplift over the 2070 for just 25 bucks more.

Likewise, for $700 if the 2080 super delivers in a similar capacity over the 2080, I would wait a lifetime to secure one (well a little while in the least). Actually any increase in performance at this point is a very nice positive considering the super variants cost is more affordable compared to third party vendor superclocked 2080 GPU's.

Comment reply on customgtp's Completed Build: Mini Scrap Build

  • 8 days ago
  • 1 point

It's the all evil one-eye build lol

You've kinda played down the case whilst the case itself looks fantastic! You gotto give it more credit, i'm a fan +1

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First build"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point

It's a great time to upgrade if you're willing to spend just a little bit more to secure some added performance for the long run.

Tomorrow AMD is set to launch 3000-series CPUs with single threaded performance at par with intels best offerings with the addition of multi-threaded support (around 30% more performance with multi-thread optimised workloads). Only $200 for the Ryzen 3600

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $200.00
Motherboard MSI - B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $84.99 @ Amazon
Memory GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card $269.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair - SPEC-04 ATX Mid Tower Case $48.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Corsair
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $783.84
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-06 12:14 EDT-0400

Short term set backs:

  • Leave the aftermarket cooler for now - a nice upgrade for later. The 3600 chip comes with a stock cooler (wraith stealth)

  • Leave the LED fans - a nice upgrade for later.

  • Only $30 difference for some very meaningful push in CPU performance, longevity + some added FPS in gaming (when compared to the 8400 intel chip)

If you are able to push the budget a little further, by $80, AMD is also set to launch their next gen 5000-series graphics cards (priced at $350). Although the 1660 TI is more than capable of securing your performance target of 90fps, the $80 mark up for the 5700 is expected to average around 120-130fps. A better investment for the long run as game developers are always adding greater content, more graphics intense rendering job-lots, etc - which in return impacts FPS performance. Either way, both cards are great, which ever your budget is more comfortable with! (5700's decision power also rests with independent benchmarks which are expected in the next couple of days)

About the case: I get the "aesthetics preference" but there are better quality cases available with not much extra on top. The Spec-04's acrylic glass panel is not the most attractive selling point considering tampered glass options are available for just $10 more. If you prefer a clean-build finish, you may appreciate a PSU shroud which conceals all the cable clutter from view. Maybe something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w766Mp/phanteks-eclipse-p350x-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec350ptg_dbk (the exterior RGB being a bonus if you fancy that sort of thing). If you prefer the Spec-04 anyway - no big deal, it does the job as intended!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD 5700 and 5700XT"

  • 9 days ago
  • 1 point
  • 5700 $350

  • 5700-XT $400

That's more like it :) Back to being value-king!

It will be interesting to see by what margin the 5700XT outshines the 2060 super, being both units are priced the same. Initially the XT variant was set to compete with the RTX 2070 and if the benchmarks concur, the XT being achievable for $75 less makes it a very desirable cost-effective solution for higher refresh rate gaming. More the reason to look forward to independent benchmarks!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time gaming/editing build help"

  • 10 days ago
  • 2 points

Here's a quick placeholder for excellent gaming performance and very capable of playing demanding games on top settings.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €200.00
CPU Cooler Cooler Master - Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler €34.95 @ Megekko
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard €129.95 @ Megekko
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €79.60 @ Megekko
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive €114.95 @ Megekko
Video Card MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB VENTUS OC Video Card €372.90 @ Megekko
Case NZXT - H500 ATX Mid Tower Case €79.90 @ CD-ROM-LAND
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €96.94 @ Megekko
Monitor AOC - C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor €199.00 @ CD-ROM-LAND
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total €1308.19
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-05 18:17 CEST+0200

I would wait a little longer for other possibilities to open up in the Graphics Card department. Nvidia has already released their "Super" variants of the RTX 2060/2070 gaming cards and AMD is set to launch the Radeon RX 5700/XT cards on 7th July. Both companies are delivering some much required performance for the the current asking price which adds better value compared to current available options. When available (in 2 days), we'll get a better picture as to how these newer options measure up via independent benchmarks - something you should absolutely hang around for before checking out

Same applies for the CPU, the currently added Ryzen 3600 is set to hit the shelves on 7th July.

The above placeholder, totalling @ 1300 euros and your ability to exceed the initial €1500 budget (with the display included), opens up a couple of other fronts you might be interested in:

  • Possibly a 1440p display (higher resolution = sharper image quality) paired up with either the RTX 2070/2070 SUPER or RX 5700 / 5700 XT (better and newer gaming card options). This will be highly reflective of how far you're willing to push the budget or whether we see additional savings with GPU wars between Nvidia & AMD.

  • Although the Ryzen 3600 CPU is "more than sufficient" as a top gaming combatant, you may be open to a marginally faster variant (3600X) or an 8-core CPU (if you fancy). We'll get a better understanding in a couple of days as to how these chips stack up, the pros and cons, and whether it's worth the added spend. If you do fancy the above 1440p sharper image display option, I'd stick with the Ryzen 3600 and place all additional funds in the GPU department for some added longevity (future-proof).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time gaming/editing build help"

  • 10 days ago
  • 2 points

help us - help you:

Does the €1500 budget include:

  1. Operating system?

  2. Peripherals? (keyboard, mouse, speakers, headset, etc)

  3. You mentioned "optional: good gaming display". Is this also within the €1500 bracket?

  4. Need wifi functionality? Or are you good to go with hardwiring via ethernet?

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Replacing my old pc - Need help to finish the build - Budget ~ 1800 euros"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

I'm not sure if the compatibility changes for any other components.

Just the CPU and Motherboard (either a X470/X570 mobo). All else is fully compatible!

I did want to make my build able to overclock. I wanted to start with the regular speeds, then educate myself on overclocking and do it on a later stage.

If you do end up sticking with intel for overclocking advantages, i'd wait a little longer to see how well the the AMD chips compare with overclocking potential. Also for a gaming CPU, the i7-9700K is more than sufficient hence i'd give the i9 a skip.

Huh I thought the NVME SSD's would be more expensive than that. Do they only increase boot up speed or are they faster in use after boot up too? Does this impact gaming in any way?

Yes faster boot times for the OS, applications and games. Although the difference here is a small advantage in real-world noticeable performance unless you're transferring large files on the go or writing to the disk in large volumes to make use of the x3/x4 sequential R/W speeds. The great benefit here being, even-though your particular workload may not fully utilise the NVME SSD's superior performance the cost of these units justifies the purchase.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nub at PCs Need help with monitors and gpus"

  • 11 days ago
  • 1 point

Each of those displays supports x1 HDMI and x1 DisplayPort - you can pick whichever is required. These options are perfectly sufficient for what you are trying to achieve.

The selected Graphics card offers 4 connections (x2 DisplayPort, x1 HDMI, x1 DVI). Assuming you're using x2 displays for work purposes and x1 panel for gaming (which would make sense with the RTX 2060) - you'll want to save some money by swapping out two of these panels for 60hz displays and for gaming stick with a higher refresh rate (144hz) display.


budget is 3500$ but I want to make it cheap as possible

You've got plenty of options to pull the cost down:

  1. Swap out for x2 60hz panels which would work out cheaper.

  2. A decent premium quality case for around the $100 mark

  3. Drop the AIO for a premium $50-$80 HSF cooler. If not overclocking, something for $30/$40 would pair up very nicely.

  4. Consider a AMD 6-core multi-threaded 3600/3600X CPU (releasing on 7th July).

  5. Swap out the SATA interface SSD for a 'faster', newer and cable-less NVME M.2 drive for only $115. Eg. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ny22FT/corsair-mp510-960gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-cssd-f960gbmp510. Samsung evos are great but with newer offerings, faster performance and better value it's time to move on.


The above is only if you wanted to save some cash from the supplied parts list. If you are comfortable hitting the $3500 target without a sweat, some considerations:

  • You might appreciate your primary gaming panel being a larger 27" 1440p display and bumping up the GPU to a $500 gaming card (newly released 'RTX 2070 SUPER')

  • 1440p is a better fit for 27" screens where the screen real estate can be put to practice whilst maintaining excellent image sharpness. What you essentially get is more content on-screen, more comfortable viewing when transitioning to split-screen modes to fit in 2/more windows ...... and for gaming simply sharper detailing + more immersive gameplay.

  • Personally, I would opt for x2 1440p 60hz panels and for the primary gamer a 1440p 144hz display (all 3 panels being 27"). The pixel density across the board offers plenty of opportunity to spread your spreadsheets, monitoring applications, data-sets, live-feeds in a number of split-screen windows whilst maintaining sharpness in object/text output and keeping all content within it's native size or orientation.

  • With the RTX 2070 SUPER in the bag, plenty of performance to hit up on 140fps or around the 100fps mark in "demanding games" on ultra presets.

  • You may appreciate IPS screens too for better viewing angles and more natural colours and possibly GSYNC with your primary gaming panel, assuming we can achieve the above for around $3000 (saving you 500 bucks from the $3500 target)

EDIT: I had a crack at the possibilities if you're comfortable @ $3000 (kept the same case, although I would have preferred something like the Meshify C for $100)

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $329.00
Motherboard Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard $139.99 @ Amazon
Memory Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $87.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Corsair - MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $114.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair - 500D Premium ATX Mid Tower Case $249.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $108.99 @ SuperBiiz
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $99.49 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor $549.99 @ Adorama
Monitor Acer - V277U 27.0" 2560x1440 75 Hz Monitor $229.99 @ Newegg
Monitor Acer - V277U 27.0" 2560x1440 75 Hz Monitor $229.99 @ Newegg
Keyboard Corsair - K63 Special Edition (MX Red) Wireless Gaming Keyboard $89.99 @ Amazon
Mouse Corsair - DARK CORE RGB SE Wireless Optical Mouse $69.89 @ OutletPC
Headphones Corsair - VOID PRO RGB (Black) 7.1 Channel Headset $79.99 @ Amazon
External Storage Seagate - Backup Plus 1 TB External Hard Drive $59.89 @ OutletPC
Custom Corsair Gaming ST100 RGB Premium Headset Stand with 7.1 Surround Sound $59.99 @ Amazon
Custom CORSAIR MM1000 Qi Wireless Charging Mouse Pad - Adapters Inclded for Most Smartphones Including iPhone and Android $39.99 @ Amazon
Custom Nvidias newly released RTX 2070 SUPER $500.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $3040.05
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-04 15:12 EDT-0400

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Nub at PCs Need help with monitors and gpus"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Display model correction: D27****

Any modern day GPU with x3 (or more) video output ports will do the job. A good recommendation for a video card boils down to your purpose of use and budget (?).

HGF models are higher refresh rate panels, which begs the question - is the multi-monitor configuration for gaming? If yes, it would be a good idea to secure a x3 displayport video output gaming card. Most current gaming cards support this functionality whether opting for a mid-ranged or higher end GPU.


EDIT: BTW if "image sharpness" is key, you might want to look at 24" panels as edged pixel visibility is more noticeable on 27" panels. The popularity with 27" panels is more grounded with 1440p resolutions or desktop configurations which have display sitting a little further away (more than an arms length).

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Asus or Corsair ?"

  • 12 days ago
  • 2 points

CORSAIR!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Replacing my old pc - Need help to finish the build - Budget ~ 1800 euros"

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

I am indeed looking at 1440p and beyond so then the 2070 super would probably be best(also budget wise) but what you said about AMD's line up makes sense. I will want to see how well their Navi cards do and their new CPU's as well before I can make a full choice.

2060 super & 2070 super benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGpzf0uHuCc

The "2070 super" fits this build very nicely for around 500 euros. What you essentially have is a card capable of producing very similar performance to a higher end 1080 ti or a RTX 2080 for almost 30% less of an asking price. A very good fit for 1440p gaming (avg. 100/110 fps in 'demanding' titles on ultra presets)

I don't believe the NAVI cards compete here in terms of raw performance but definitely worth the wait to see how these will measure up in your most played gaming titles and cost.

As for the 9900K build - I wouldn't bother to be honest. Higher resolution gaming where graphics intensity is on the high is more reflective of GPU performance opposed to CPU. You can expect very similar results even if you grabbed an i5-8600K paired up with a 1440p panel. The other issue being "value" - AMD's 3000 series 8 core 16 threaded CPUs are already officially confirmed for around 400 or less euros (Ryzen 3700X/3800X) and partisan benchmarks are placing performance with the newer 7nm architecture at an equal footing with the i9. 100 euros less + same performance puts AMD in the driving seat. This is something I'm looking forward to on 7th July and can't wait to get a glimpse of independent benchmarks before I pull the trigger for a work build. For a higher resolution gaming build, the difference in performance doesn't matter - in fact, if you opted for the Ryzen 3600/3600X (6 cores and 16 threads) - you're pretty much looking at the same FPS achievements in game (difference in performance at this point would be negligible). An 8 core CPU is not necessary for gaming at this point.

If you are interested in overclocking, the intel route does add some additional headroom to push the clockspeeds further but is the endeavour worth a 100 euros more for an unlocked 8 core i9 CPU - boils down to user preference (not much in it for gaming, unless you have other multi-core intensive job-lots on the run).


With newer offerings for the consumer market, faster NVME SSDs are far more affordable and that too for 1TB units (double the capacity). I would take something like this: https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Replacing my old pc - Need help to finish the build - Budget ~ 1800 euros"

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

I am still in doubt on which video card I should be going for. I am hesitating between the MSI - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB GAMING Z and the Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB GAMING OC. I am unsure whether the extra splurge of 100 euros is worth it.

Today Nvidia launched their newer 'super' variants of the 2060/2070/2080 with some added performance and similar price range. You mentioned "higher resolution" gaming, which i'm assuming is 1440p/etc - get the best card you can with 8GB VRAM within your budget, preferably 2070 or 2070 Super / 2080 or 2080 super.

I'd wait a little longer for some independent benchmark comparisons to see how well these newer cards measure up and whether spending a little extra is worth it. We can expect reviews to emerge anytime from today.

Secondly I am hesitating between water-cooling and air-cooling. Some of my friends swear by water-cooling but most of the tests I've seen have similar results with air-cooling while being a lot cheaper but water-cooling being aesthetically better(which is personal preference I guess). A friend came up with the Antec - Mercury 360 RGB. However for air cooling I found that in tests, the Noctua - NH-U12A seems to be performing really similar and is priced the same.

Your budget can either break or make some opportunities here. Liquid cooling is a preference and certainly not a requirement. I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of AIO sales are purely aesthetically based (mine was) as any of my top 3 HSF's deliver the same performance. If not overclocking, don't bother spending anything beyond 30-50 euros unless personal preference suggests otherwise.


Besides NVIDIA's variant additions to their GPU line-up - I would also look to wait a little longer for 7th July with AMD releasing 3000-series CPUs. Better value, equal single threaded performance when compared with intel offerings and with the addition of multi-threaded support (30%ish more performance with multithreaded workloads) - things are looking very promising.

Comment reply on Makirole's Completed Build: Bit-Tech 1000D Mega Build

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

JUST BOOOOOTIFUL!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How Does My PC Stack Up By Today's Standards..."

  • 14 days ago
  • 2 points

Assuming its for gaming, 1080p looks fit for the task with your current build. For the wider resolution (2560x1080) and preserving higher in-game quality, the GPU upgrade path is desirable!

On both fronts, it boils down to your performance targets and how far you're willing to drop visual quality configurations to reach your desired balance. If that balance is not achievable, that's a pretty good indicator to move up the ladder with a newer platform (CPU/MOBO/RAM) + GPU (if opting for resolutions with greater pixel counts).

Depending on your budget, it's a pretty exciting time to upgrade too (if needed) with newer GPUs and GPU variants hitting the shelves within the next 2-6 days. As well as AMD unleashing their next GEN battalion of CPUs which are looking very promising in terms of performance and value (7th July release).


Before considering the upgrade path, if your system is running slow in general:

  1. Maybe consider a fresh install of windows to iron out the bloat/other garbage that builds up within the ranks.

  2. If you haven't overclocked the CPU, maybe grab a decent $35-$50 cooler and ramp up the clock speeds for some added performance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What do you think of my build?"

  • 14 days ago
  • 1 point

With newer releases around the corner I wouldn't expect any sharp drops in pricing with immediate effect. But 6 months later for XMAS - im an optimist :) (incl. XMAS sales and bundles)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "What do you think of my build?"

  • 15 days ago
  • 4 points

Looks good but I would wait a little longer:

  • 2nd July - Nvidia releasing newer GPU variants with some added performance

  • 7th July - AMD releasing 3000-series CPUs for a similar price tag whilst securing some considerably better performance improvements and efficiency. Eg. Ryzen 3600 - $200

  • 7th July - AMD 5000-series GPUs - definitely worth the wait considering much emphasis is employed to keep these newer vega replacements to be more power efficient (lesser power draw, lesser noise and better overall performance) Eg. NAVI 5700 - $379

7-8 days to go for some more exciting options

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First build for gaming"

  • 16 days ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU Ryzen 3600 $200.00
Motherboard ASRock - X470 Master SLI/AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $133.98 @ Newegg Business
Memory G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $59.89 @ OutletPC
Storage Intel - 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $99.39 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB GAMING Video Card $219.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design - Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $58.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Corsair
Monitor LG - 24MP59G-P 23.8" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor $136.99 @ Amazon
Keyboard Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard $32.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1002.20
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-06-29 12:28 EDT-0400
  • 10-15% faster performing Ryzen 3600 and better power efficiency (release date: on 7th July)

  • X470 motherboard with integrated wifi (includes in-built adapter + antennas)

  • Faster M.2 NVME SSD

  • Marginally superior graphics card (GTX 1660) and more importantly drawing far lesser power. The 590 Nitro is great but it does run hot depending on case conditions (75c-80c avg) and the fan levels ramp up quite considerably adding to jet-engine like noise levels. The 1660 runs more smoother, lesser chance of thermal throttling performance drops and runs considerably quieter. The only consideration here which may favour the AMD card is "FreeSync" if that's an absolute requirement. Nvidia's current driver patch does support Gsync on FreeSync panels - something you can check whether the selected panel supports this function

  • An IPS display for better viewing angles and more natural colours.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is this a good deal or am I missing something?"

  • 17 days ago
  • 1 point

Did the listed price change as I'm not seeing any major deals on this product which is charged @ £120

These ones come in for £20 less (3200Mhz/16CL) https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr

3600Mhz 18CL and 3200Mhz 16CL is practically the same speed. Where 3600Mhz outshines 3200Mhz is via lower CAS latency @ 15/16CL (outshining being a "overly" expressive depiction as in real-time performance the speeds allocated here are unnoticeable unless your workload is frantically memory intensive, like there's no tomorrow)

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