I realize the 1660Ti is good, but I'm still on the fence about it having 6 GB of VRAM rather than 8. They're also more expensive than the V 56, which can be undervolted or flashed to a 64. When I play GTA V, the memory usage estimate exceeds 6 GB as I run at 1440p max settings. He plans to get there eventually with minimal upgrades to the system itself.
Monitor and peripherals should be factored in as I'm not sure how long he will need to borrow my extra peripherals for. Windows shouldn't be an issue as I have a legit windows USB copy that I use for builds.
I realize I'm incurring more cost over time, but that is a very long way off. Given how Sandy Bridge-E currently performs, and the fact that there is an 8 core unlocked Xeon when 6 cores isn't enough, I think it works out nicely. I'm sure you can prove me wrong though.
My apologies, I thought it was understood that I would be buying mostly used. The new parts would be storage, case, cooler, and PSU.
Please don't take this the wrong way. While I really appreciate you taking the time to make a list, it's not for me. Sandy Bridge can equal and even exceed first gen Ryzen's capabilities, especially with slow 2400 MHz RAM. Additionally, B350 boards often have issues with the 8 core chips as their VRMs are not usually up to the task. The SSD is also too small. His requirement was SSD+ 1 TB HDD.
Don’t bother with the Ryzen 2600 if you don’t have a lot of money.
It works just fine, but this draws a lot less power than yours would.
It has been a great mouse for me. Takes some getting used to but still a great mouse, and you can add weight to it.
It might, but I would get a more powerful PSU just to be safe.
I think it just might be an AsRock thing. Their boards can be very finicky. It's really up to you. I don't like Asus' customer service, so you best hope that if you go to the Hero, it works without any issues. They're both pretty good boards, I would just be wary and do a massive amount of research into the Ultimate before buying.
Appreciate the advice! I'll keep that in mind for the future, just the monitor I got for him doesn't support Freesync. It was originally just supposed to be a second monitor for me but I decided I'd give it to him so he doesn't have to play at 1024x768.
Thank you! I will for sure get more photos in. I just thought I had more than I did on my phone when I posted this.
No reason to mess with the settings on the GPU anyway unless you want to max out power limit and heat limit. If you do that, it will overclock itself.
"Beats most if not all X470 I have seen"
Did you mean B450? Because I'm sure my Taichi Ultimate would demolish that board.
Regardless, congrats on the feature and glad to have you here.
As far as I know I am. I'll have to check when I get a chance, but I know I at least updated the bios once or twice since I built it.
Thanks! Overclocks don't like to stick, and weird errors occasionally happen. It also took me 3 months of on and off troubleshooting before it magically POSTed out of nowhere.
Zen 3 is a long way off and he primarily games. Even if he got into editing and such, all it takes is a 5 GHz OC to bite at the heels of the 2700X (stock) in editing. 6 blazing fast cores is plenty.
He did say it was for gaming though. The extra 4 threads the 2700X would provide aren't necessary for that.
I've been looking into the idea of getting an HD 7970 GHz edition. It's above my current 430W PSU's capabilities, but I'm thinking if I sell it and get a slightly better PSU with the money I save from not getting a 960 4GB it may be worth it. What do you guys think?
The reason I want to keep costs down is because I have to fund this myself and my job doesn't quite pay enough for the more expensive cards. I sure wish I could afford another 1070 or similar, but I'm not so lucky.
Would you recommend a 960 4GB?
I thought the 1050Ti/equivalent was able to maintain a constant 60 FPS at max settings. Isn't the 1060 6GB/RX 480/RX 580 a little bit too much?
Not like he can please everyone.
A 1080 and an overclocked G4560. Seems legit.
I love this. No wonder it got a feature, so unique and professionally done. The last picture is the icing in the cake, definitely deserves the spotlight. +1
Yes, I've done everything right and everything is plugged in as it should be. I've triple checked.
Right now I'm testing it out of the case on top of the cardboard box the motherboard came in, which is on top of a wooden surface in a room with wooden flooring. Everything is plugged in as it should be.
Everything is brand new. I couldn't have overclocked it if I tried, I haven't gotten it to post ever since I first put it together. RAM sticks are fine.
The board is brand new. I'm using a 2700X and an X470 Taichi Ultimate.
The 950 is based on Excavator, which yes is a Bulldozer derivative, but is different than the Steamroller architecture used in the 860K.
Refuses to POST. I've gone through everything and at this point it's either the CPU or board itself.
I'm having issues with my current build so I was going to buy the chip to make sure the CPU was not the issue and then use it for a guest PC.
Thank you all for the suggestions. I'll be ordering parts soon.
That is a pretty good build, I just really don't want to support Intel, not to start anything. It's more of a personal thing. I appreciate you taking the time to put that together though, I'll be sure to take the SSD into consideration.
The difference between the two is HUGE. The VRMs are killer on the Taichi Ultimate. The stock cooler is nothing amazing. I suggest getting an AIO as I have.
EVGA White 430W.
It's an EVGA White 430W. Works just fine.
In my opinion you should always overclock if it's available to you. The 8700K is fast, but much better when overclocked. Same with the 2700X.
As for boards I recommend the X470 Taichi or the X470 Taichi Ultimate.
The 2700X is a content creation powerhouse, yes. The difference in gaming is noticeable on a graph, but if you're playing at high frame rates it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference in my opinion. I would go for the 2700X, but it's up to you. I actually just got my motherboard in today, I can give you cinebench scores for the 2700X later today or tomorrow if you like.
The 8700K is no joke, make no mistake. It has 6 cores and 12 threads that will shred through anything you throw at it. The difference between the two is just that one shreds through gaming faster and the other shreds through content creation faster.
I'm not worried about a PSU, I have one laying around.
An idea I had was replacing the 1050Ti with an RX 560 1024 and running in crossfire. I'm not all too familiar with crossfire as I've only used NVIDIA GPUs. Would that work or be worth it?
It comes down to how you define occasional. The 8700K is faster in gaming and always will be. But the 2700X murders the 8700K in editing and in streaming.
Legally yes. I'm just trying to spend as little as possible as this is coming out of my pocket. As a 16 year old there aren't many jobs available to me.
It's not an installer that I downloaded, I just made one out of a flashdrive like lots of other people do and have done, from an activated WIN 10 copy I have.
Not too shabby. I'll keep this in mind and tweak it a bit. Thanks.
Thank you, I should have clarified. No, I don't need an OS as I have a WIN 10 installer and I can just run WIN 10 unactivated.
That's correct, they are having issues with 10nm and are having to release 14nm+++, or Whiskey Lake.
With Ryzen, you want your RAM to be as fast as possible. The infinity fabric communicates quickly, but is dependent upon RAM speed and timings. In all of the speeds you posted, there is a noticeable jump each time you go up the ladder.
Well that's good to hear. The whole idea was to have a streaming rig that could bite at the heels of the 8700K in gaming once all parts capable of being overclocked were pushed to their limits. I didn't want to bother with X299 because of all the VRM issues and not to mention price. X99 is also a little old now.
If the man doesn't need 16 cores he doesn't need 16 cores. Besides, a lot of games have issues with how many threads the 1950X has, requiring you to use game mode.
I would think at this price point you would want the best parts available, yes? Besides, nobody wants a disk failure. Generally HDDs have a higher failure risk than SSDs, because they have moving parts.