Great build! I noticed the problem with the slightly skewed MA610P cooler, I have the same one in my Apogee V2. It actually has to do with the backplate not being completely aligned when the backplate nuts are tightened down. By shifting the backplate studs in the motherboard holes I was able to straighten the back plate and the cooler sits perfectly. It's a great cooler, but I would advise investing in some NT-H1 thermal compound as the bulk CM stuff is just "ok". Hope this helps if you decide to give this cooler another try in a build.
I looked it up, it seems that with adequate cooling the 1700 will boost to 3.2 on all cores with XFR. I had thought only the "X" CPUs had XFR but it seems all the Ryzen 7 processors have it.
Excerpt from KitGuru Ryzen review:
The differences between the 1700 and other Ryzen 7 SKUs come in the form of out-of-the-box frequency, TDP, and XFR headroom. By default, the 1700 operates at a modest, due to the TDP target, 3.0GHz with a maximum Precision Boost clock speed of 3.7GHz. Highlighting the non-X difference of this SKU, XFR headroom is cut in half compared to the 1700X and 1800X, allowing the 1700 to operate at 50MHz above its maximum Precision Boost clock speed under the relevant conditions. With sufficient cooling, you’ll get a 3.2GHz all-core operating frequency out-of-the-box, 3.7GHz maximum multi-core Precision Boost operating speed, and 3.75GHz XFR frequency for single-core operations.
I would be willing to bet that one card was purchased prior and it was a decision to buy another later for an upgrade. Usually how those things go. I did it before and it was a cost-effective way to increase performance substantially without buying a $500 card.
I guess my wit wasn't appreciated, thanks for the downvote though...
Better FPS than just one 570...
I'm pretty sure that's stock, my 1700 ran at 3.2ghz out of the box until I overclocked it. Not sure why as it should be 3.0ghz, maybe that's the automatic all-core turbo speed.
If only it had a 750GB HDD and a 750w power supply, and you could have built it in a Corsair 750D case...
Would have been a heck of a theme.
Great budget build!
Yeah I still can't believe how an 11 year old game can bring a modern graphics card to it's knees with all the eye candy cranked up at high resolution. Talk about ahead of it's time.
Yeah, I got really lucky considering what happened at the end of April.
Agreed. Ivy Bride i5s are still great CPUs, and the HD7850 was a real workhorse of a card that should still game decently given it's the 2GB variant. If it was a 1GB card you might have a harder time with the newer games.
Great build, and nice Karma boost for donating it to the needy. PCMR welcomes all.
Looks like the Alienware 34" Gsync monitor here:
I'm so thankful I got my GTX 1070 for MSRP, $399 and a week later they were out of stock unicorns with insane markups.
I bought that exact same kit of memory for $100 in March of last year for my Ryzen build. It's actually coming back down a little now, having peaked at about $200 in January. It's been crazy these last 12 months, hopefully the GPU and memory markets will stabilize soon.
…and it still only gets 30FPS on Ultra.
That was one of the main attractions I had to the Air 540 case, you can show off all the goodies and the power supply and cables are all in the back compartment out of sight.
I like the build, very similar in spirit and specs to my own Apogee. I'm curious, the parts list shows a Gigabyte 1070, but the card in the pic is an MSI Armor series card. Is that an old pic or is it a different card?
HAHA that's awesome. I didn't see the first one but I actually commented on the second one when you posted it. It must have been inception because I had not even remembered the naming.
Good advice, I adjusted the parts list to reflect a single memory module. Oversight on my part. Thanks!
Nice budget build, I see what you mean by a CPU bottleneck...
A cheap B350 motherboard, a Ryzen 5 quad-core w/SMT (hyperthreading), and 8GB of DDR4 will set you back about $280 but would VASTLY improve your gaming experience. Literally every game out now is playable with a Ryzen 5 and a 1050ti stutter-free with medium or high settings at 1080p. The rest of that parts in your build would carry over just fine, and the B350 will give you a very solid upgrade path (My Ryzen 1700 will not be obsolete for quite a few years).
Fantastic price on that 870! I paid $60 a few months ago for the one in my son's build and I thought that was a good deal. I don't know how good that Thermaltake cooler is, but with a Hyper 212 on my son's a slight overclock to 3.4ghz really let the old i7 really stretch it's legs.
Great build, I love seeing these older-gen parts being resurrected, and you sure keep 'em coming.
I can't recommend this case enough, it was a breeze to build
Yeah, it's pretty easy when you just let the cables roam about hither and dither...
Good rebuild, I like it.
Looks like there's an intake vent on the left side of the chest, and presumably most of the exhaust is handled by the power supply fan.
So why is it called the pretzOH HOLY HELL THOSE HOSES!
Names computer "Monochrome", computer literally has all three primary colors in it.
Ballsy, I like it.
I don't want to sound overly negative, but the $242.88 you spent on your CPU/motherboard is really just too much for a processor that came out in February of 2012 and a 970 chipset AM3+ motherboard. Even though it looks like you got your RAM for free, the price to performance here is just not good.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113437 - $139 today 4/29/2018
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157762 - $59 today 4/29/2018
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820215176 - $75 today 4/29/2018
For $273 with free shipping, you could have gotten a 4-core/8-thread Ryzen CPU, overclocking motherboard, and 8GB of DDR4 2400. You would have much better performance and more features for only $31 more. I don't want to knock your build, as the rest of it is pretty good.
Nice build, I like your thinking that a budget GPU will hold you over until card prices come down. I think if it was me I would have gone to ebay (I listed a sample gtx 770 that I found in a quick search with a buy-it-now price of $95 with free shipping) as the used market is a really good place to get some decent price/performance.
Here is a wonderful solution to the current graphics card market, beats a 1050ti by about 20% for only $100.
I would have to agree with that to an extent, but it really depends on what kind of games you play. My son had this same processor paired with a RX560, and games like Fortnite and Overwatch ran extremely well at medium settings 1080p/60. The more CPU intensive games, like Subnautica, Farming Simulator, Cities Skylines, and World of Warships were having stuttering issues which have gone away since I upgraded him to an i7-870. But there are a ton of games that this i5 will still play very well.
Not too shabby, good trade for a Nintendo switch. These first-gen i5s and i7s still have a decent amount of life left in them for budget builds. Love all the 750 builds lately, I did end up selling mine after listing it on Craigslist (sold in under 6 hours lol).
I have an HX750i for my Ryzen 1700 (@3.8ghz) and single GTX 1070. My estimated wattage requirement before overclocking is just over 400w, and I like to have between 40-50% headroom so that the power supply is never running close to max output. My power supplies have always lasted a long time and run very cool (the fan on my 750i nearly never even comes on). Whilt you do not really NEED that much headroom, you should realistically have at least 150-200w of clearance.
For this build I would recommend either this Seasonic unit, or this Corsair unit. They would give you a little more headroom, and are both 80+ Gold certified. Either would also be of a much higher quality than the Thermaltake model you currently have, which is also not 80+ certified at all.
Yeah. Much better.
Jin Kazama from TEKKEN
The Hyper 212 should be fine for up to 4.8ghz, any higher will definitely require a better cooler.
Both of those builds use the Hyper 212 and have OC'd their 7700k CPUs to 4.8ghz with "decent" temps.
My setup is a Ryzen 1700 / GTX 1070 / Asus RoG Strix 27" 144hz monitor -
Destiny 2 Ultra settings 100+ FPS
DOOM Ultra settings 160+ FPS
CoD WWII Ultra settings 120+ FPS
Overwatch Ultra settings 140+ FPS
If my 1070 is that close to a locked 144FPS in all those games, I'm sure the 1080 (or even 1070ti for that matter) will be fine.
Honestly me either, I usually do overclock my processors just because it's free performance, but I don't go out of my way to squeeze every last Mhz out of them.
I will say that if you go to Ryzen in the future, make sure you get a good kit of 3200mhz or higher memory. I did notice a difference between 2666 and 3200, probably due to Ryzen using their infinity fabric for ccx communication.
Nice old build, I too upgraded from Phenom II, to FX 8XXX, and now to Ryzen. In hindsight, I would have been fine using my OC'd Phenom II 970BE up until the release of Ryzen. I never felt like my FX was a substantial jump up from the old Phenom, and seemed to actually perform worse in some games. But it's all history now, I'm very happy with my Ryzen and I'm sure you will be too.
+1 for history
i've decided to go with Ryzen for my next system
I've been happy with my Ryzen 1700 in all aspects (paired with GTX1070 and hitting 90+FPS in FarCry 5 ultra settings 1080p) but unless you wait for Ryzen 2 you definitely won't get anywhere close to 5ghz. Mine tops out at 3.9ghz, but with a really high voltage requirement of 1.42v. I found that if I turned it down just 100mhz to 3.8ghz, it's rock stable at 1.25v with max load temps at 64c with a Hyper 212 cooler.
Hopefully the 2700 or 2700x will get past 4.5ghz but we will see.
Either way, I cannot find a single performance related complaint with my Ryzen, so if you decide to go that route in your next build I'm sure you will be perfectly happy with it.
Just for giggles I checked the Intel Ark on the 4790k, the specs page lists DDR3 1333 and 1600 but doesn't list any higher speeds. I know that my son's i7 is limited to 1333 because I tried running 1600 modules and they just ran at 1333. Will the 4790k use faster RAM than 1600?
My youngest son is gaming on a first-gen i7 with 8GB of DDR3 1333 and an RX560 graphics card. All his games run fine at 1080p. DDR3 1600 is fine for what it is. If you're only gaming at 1080p 60hz and you're ok playing games at medium or high settings, there is a definite point at which getting faster components is just wasting money because you're not going to get any noticeable gains in performance.
Another great build! I love the Corsair SPEC cases. They are built sturdy, nice to build in and are surprisingly easy to cable-manage in. Great deal on the i5, and that 7870 should still hang with the big boys at 1080p.
I used to have that exact same graphics card (EVGA and everything), it wad paired with an old Pentium 4 and was my first computer with a dedicated graphics card back in 2008. Of course, I didn't use it for anything cool like this build, I just played S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Fallout 3, and TES: Oblivion on it.
Ahh... Good times.
Ummm... Not really. The A320 is the worst chipset for Ryzen because it does not support overclocking. The Ryzen CPU and APUs have much lower base clocks than Intel and do benefit very noticeably from overclocking. I run my Ryzen 1700 @ 3.8ghz and it does make a slight difference, but the lower core count processors such as the Ryzen 3 and 5 series will see a more pronounced difference. Also the power supply that comes in that Raidmax case is pretty much a fire hazard at worst, and a future dead component at best.
Really, the only part of this build that I would say is worth carrying over to an upgraded system is the RAM.
Looking at the build date, there were much better parts available for this price. Here is a sample build that came in at just $30 more than this build and has much better performance and quality of parts.
Thank you! I have had mixed results with Craigslist and lately have been using the Facebook marketplace with better results. I will probably pair it with a different monitor because the LG monitor has a weird thing where every few days it goes to sleep randomly and has to be turned off and back on and I don't want the buyer to think there is a problem with the computer.
That is very good to know, I have the HX750i with Corsair Link. The RGB control on my MSI motherboard is crap so I might go that route later on. Thanks.