I'm not sure how that's going to happen, seeing as the power supply is located in the top of this case.
Spacial awareness 101.
getting a GTX 970 from my dad
Probably been on the carpet since 2014. If it ain't broke by now I'm sure it's fine...
Benchmarks are updated, at least a few. Some pics and a little at the bottom of the description.
I'm not sure about that, but it works out in my garage! About 30 feet from the router with two block walls between them.
I just bought that exact same Zalman cooler for an i5-4440, it's much better than the stock Intel solution for a locked processor. It's just a few degrees cooler, but much quieter. I'm surprised yours didn't come with thermal compound, mine had a little foil pack of it in the bag that the mounting clips were in although I didn't use it. Anyhoo… nice "junk" build.
I'm trying to follow the description, It's almost as if written by a kiwi...
Great build. Good on ya, mate. I would love to see some more pics. Hopefully you can find that 3770k you're looking for.
P.S. I was also remember watching way back when Linus worked for NCIX (...maybe 2010?) and Jays videos when he was still Jaysvfx...
It should run Terraria just fine. I tried that game on an old i5 (first-gen mobile) laptop I used to have with integrated graphics and it actually hit 15-20FPS. Seeing as the GT710 is about 600% faster than the Arrandale HD I think this build would run it just fine. Probably at 1080p to boot.
Very nice older build! I'd love to see an updated price list for what you actually paid for all this.
Lynnfield still has some life left in the budget-gaming arena, my youngest son's build has an i7-870 @ 3.4ghz and with an RX560 he plays all his games at 1080p medium very well.
I can't speak for this build specifically, but overall the new Wraith coolers are MUCH quieter than previous gen stock coolers. I never really noticed the cooling fan on my Ryzen 1700 at stock speeds and only replaced it because I overclock (and because apparently I have a CPU cooler fetish...).
Out of the two "HAL 9000" builds that have been uploaded this afternoon, I definitely like yours the best.
If you're curious, the other one is 5 builds before you.
Nice looking build.
The parts list is pretty inaccurate. The cooler has a Noctua fan but is definitely not the NH-U12S, the power supply is a 750w G2 not a G3, and your HDD is a Western Digital Black and not a Seagate Barracuda.
Are you sure that's a 7700k in there? It might actually be a G4560 in disguise...
Aw hell... +1
loop temperatures are averaging 34°C but they're not consistent. The fan exhaust on the top radiator was 93°F
Your temps are definitely not consistent if you're alternating between Fahrenheit and Celcius when taking measurements… lol.
One thing's for sure, Ole Boss Hogg ain't never going to catch them Duke boys with an E8400...
I haven't seen a better name for an RGB build than this... Very nice for $280
If you have a 64" 8k monitor even those thumbnails look good...
Very nice build! I like your cable management, the end result is very clean. I just received that exact same case FedEx today, I can't wait for the rest of my parts to get here so I can build my latest budget gamer in it.
If you're still using a mechanical hard drive I would definitely recommend upgrading to an SSD for your operating system. It will definitely make the whole system more responsive.
She's a beauty alright, another very nice build. I'm planning a similar build right now, got a free i5-4440 with Asus motherboard and 8GB of RAM and I think that's the very same graphics card I will pick up for it.
Running a 92mm on the FX9590 is ballsy, I had that same N520 cooler on my old Phenom II x4 970 and it struggled to keep that old quad core cool when mildly overclocking to 3.8ghz... I hope you are faring better with it than I did.
Very nice. I think you have a really good price/performance with this build. If your budget allows an extra $30, a cheap 120GB SSD will drastically improve your general experience as there's just no excuse for installing an OS on a mechanical drive in 2018...
Great cheap build, hard to beat for less $ than a PS4 Pro.
Boy does this bring back memories. I had an old EVGA 8400GS, I put it in my old Dell P4 computer so I could play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. when it came out. I picked it up at my local TigerDirect store (long gone now) for about $40 in the "open box" section of the store. It was "ok", but it wasn't until the next year when I bought a Diamond HD5750 for my "just built" Phenom II x4 970BE build that I really had a good PC gaming experience.
+1 for nostalgia sake, just don't try to run anything heavier than HL2 and you should be ok.
If you're looking for a good price on an older card, I always recommend EVGA's B-stock page. They have everything from an old GTX570 to a 760 to new 1050s and up, usually at a pretty good price. They even come with a warranty, 1 year if I remember right.
Where I get out of school and GPU market isn't nuts I'll probably get a 1070 ti.
The graphics card market is actually pretty good right now, with most cards being right at MSRP and even a few being found for under. Just last week Newegg had MSI RX580s for $199, and as of the time of this comment the EVGA 1070ti is on Amazon for $429. Newegg has the Gigabyte GTX 1080 for $469 after MIR at the time of this comment.
The perfect time to buy a card (assuming you aren't dead-set on an 11-series card) is probably now, as when the 11-series cards do release they'll likely be snatched up quick and out of stock the first day. The next day you won't be able to find 10-series cards either because all the people that were holding out and couldn't get ahold of a new card will need something and end up buying a 10 series.
Looks like a nice build from the parts list, too bad about not having any pics of the inside.
Love the Vault Boy, I have a few on my desk as well.
A custom build that meets your specific use perfectly and looks amazing while doing it. I can appreciate all the time and hard work that must have went into this build. I think it just goes to show that older-gen tech can always find a home, I love to see these kinds of builds and I think you took this one to the next level. I love it. Thanks for sharing!
Parts list - 9.5/10
Pictures - 7/10
Title - 5/10
Description - 1.5/10
TOTAL SCORE: 6/10
Man... That lack of description really hurt the overall score of this build.
I put together an older-tech build a few months ago with a first-gen i5 and a 560ti, it ran most pre-2014 games pretty well at medium settings and games like CS:GO and Rocket League ran pretty well at a lower than 1080p resolution. Since the 550ti is about 80% slower than the 560ti, I can't see this build doing any better than low settings at 720p, even on eSports titles.
Ryzen was picky on memory compatibility when it launched, and still has limitations on which kits are compatible. Almost any kit will run at 2133 (stock DDR4 speed) but some don't run at the speeds they are rated for. I have a MSI B350 Tomahawk AM4 motherboard, and 16GB (2x8GB) of G.Skill DDR4 3200 CAS16 RAM. From the launch of Ryzen until June of this year (over 12 months) my memory would not run stable any higher than 2800mhz.
Then in June there was a BIOS update that improved memory compatibility on my motherboard and voila! 3200 MHz all day and I was even able to tighten the timings to 14-16-16-36 at 1.36v. I think it's more in the B350 chipset than in the actual CPU, because the X370 motherboards seem to have much better memory compatibility.
With any new architecture there are going to be "teething issues". I'm glad this was the worst thing I had to deal with after upgrading to Ryzen, as otherwise my new Ryzen build has been smooth as butter.
I have to ask, did you buy that Ryzen 1700 from HardForum? There was one for sale on there a while back that included the Wraith Prism cooler that you have, would be crazy if it was the same one I saw...
Great build, I think you will be very happy with this system.
I'm so confused.
The build is named Devastator, and features vinyl quotes by Barricade and Megatron wallpaper on your monitor. Those are all seemingly Michael Bay movie version references. Ok, I get that.
But the choice of color in your AIO hose wraps and PSU cables tells me that you are in fact familiar with the original and ONLY Devastator.
The dichotomy of this is something that I find difficult to reconcile.
Once I get past this, it actually is a very nice build.
THIS is NOT Devastator.
THIS is Devastator.
Looks like a Corsair 200R to me.
Fantastic build for the price! Not only will that old Sandy Bridge i5 hold up pretty nicely even in todays games, but you can always find a used 2600k on eBay later on for a $100(ish) upgrade that will really make this thing kick. The i5 2400 is a good quad-core, and only really limited by the low clock speed. A 2600k is about dead even performance-wise with a new Ryzen 5 1500X, and can usually be overclocked to 4.0-4.5ghz with good cooling.
I love your GPU cooling solution, you've even got the 2GB version of the 7850 and that should still play most games at medium(ish) settings.
Can't beat the level of performance you got here for under $100! Thanks for sharing!
Clearwater waves back
Nice Ryzen build! I really like the lighting on the front of that case, but it looks like a nightmare to cable manage in.
Thank you! Yeah I found that 3850 for $20 new and unused surplus from a bulk system builder and I couldn't pass it up.
I really like to see these "older tech" builds, and have done a few of them myself with the last one being surprisingly similar to this build. It's funny that the original graphics card I had for that build was a Geforce 7300 GS so they almost ended up being twins...
I have to warn you, if you try to play Crysis on this you're going to have a bad time... ; _ ;
+1 on this very nice period build.
I don't understand why you couldn't run the CPU power cable up the backside (giggle) of the motherboard, I built my youngest son's PC (see pics #1 and #2) in that same case and that's how I ran the cable.
Yeah that case will not support a front or top radiator, it's a budget case after all.
Very nice build, +1 from me.
The parts list shows two RGB 120mm fans.
Those fans replaced the ones that were preinstalled in the case and are
controlled by the motherboard RGB header.
The last two skittles being different colors = OCD level 1 / twitch.
The volume indicator showing an odd number = OCD level 2 / facial tic.
Having uneven shoelace ends after tying shoes = OCD level 3 / general uneasiness: must tie shoes again.
Viewing this build =
I love that the old Asus Crosshair motherboard is Windows Vista compatible. That really puts into perspective just how long I have been building computers...
I never had an original Phenom, my first sojourn with a custom-built gaming build was in the Phenom II x4 days with a 970BE. I really like these older builds though, and I'm surprised by just how capable some of them still are as day-to day desktop computers. And I can't remember the last time I saw a BFG graphics card...
I love this old build, thanks for sharing! +1
Normally I would agree, and yes a cheap 92mm tower cooler would be a big improvement. But with the overall budget of this build, and seeing that it's the locked version of a 65w quad core, I think that for once the AMD stock cooler should be enough without getting too loud.
I had to resort to the Urban Dictionary to decode the two-word description for this build.
I officially put more effort in trying to understand your description than you put into writing it.
On one hand, I feel that giving this build any recognition at all would be encouraging more lazy submissions/descriptions in the future.
On the other hand, it is a pretty nice build, description notwithstanding.
Take my +1
I had a GTX 470 that I put in a budget gaming build earlier this year, it would run at a pretty constant 90c (that's 194° in fahrenheit for all us here in the States, i.e.- only 18° lower than BOILING WATER and definitely hot enough to cook something).
There wasn't anything wrong with it and I had just cleaned it and applied fresh NT-H1 thermal compound, they just ran that hot. The Fermi cards wouldn't even thermal throttle until 105c, as taken from the official Nvidia info page..
Bears a striking resemblance to R2's other brother R5D4, if a little too clean...
At least it's not as hot as the old Fermi cards, I watched Timmy Joe literally cook an egg on a GTX 480...
Not to stick my nose in where it isn't wanted, but I can personally attest to the ability of the FX-8350 to inhibit the full potential of your graphics card.
I had an 8350 paired with a GTX 970, and I always thought my gaming experience was good. Sure, I had occasional stuttering in games, or low FPS in certain titles (Witcher 3, I'm looking at you), but I never really thought it was my CPU, rather just that I had an older PC in general and the games were just too demanding.
When I upgraded to Ryzen, I was still using the exact same GTX 970 and not only did my FPS go up 20-25% (in the same games with the same settings) but my stuttering in-game went completely away. The 8350 was limiting the utilization of my 970 (GPU usage monitored by afterburner went from 70% with the 8350 to 100% with the Ryzen 1700), so I am completely and absolutely certain that the 1080 in this build is being hamstrung in the same manner.
I'm not saying you will have a terrible gaming experience, and maybe for the games you play it's not an issue and you are fine. I will say the performance impact at 1440p won't be as bad because you're more GPU bound at higher resolutions.
I do like the build, and the bottom line is if it works for you and you're happy with the experience that's all that matters.
I have learned over the years that for a gaming build to last the maximum amount of time before needing to be replaced, buy the highest-performing CPU that is within your budget. That way, if you decide to upgrade your graphics card in a year (or even two or three) you know you'll just be able to slap that card in and the rest of the system will be fine. A less capable CPU will probably become obsolete (or at least "slow down" with new games and programs) sooner. I expect to keep my Ryzen 1700 for 5+ years, or until such a time that it does not perform well anymore. I will no doubt get rid of my GTX1070 during that time in favor of a newer card.
Price/performance right now would go to the 1500X. But between it and the 1700X, which one will still be able to keep up better with new games and programs 5 years from now?
It helps that right now prices for the Ryzen 7 CPUs are falling into i5 $$$ territory. You can get a lot of bang for your buck. Back in the middle of June I saw Ryzen 1700s for $199, you just can't beat that level of performance for the price.
Those AMD Phenoms are pretty easy, I usually just increase the multiplier 100mhz at a time, stress testing after every jump up. When you fail a stress test or suffer instability, raise the voltage a little bit and if you gain stability and your temps are still good, go up another 100mhz. repeat and rinse. That will be the easiest way to overclock for you.
I would guess that Phenom 840 will get up to about 3.7/3.8ghz before your thermals will get out of control on that 120mm AIO. As for the voltage, every chip is different. I had a Phenom II 970 that was stable at 3.8ghz without adjusting voltage at all.
I would try to stay under 1.45v, as it is an older CPU and you probably want to be a little conservative with her.
There are various overclocking quides, just remember to make slow adjustments and stress-test frequently until you find your sweet spot.
Keep in mind that your Phenom is the Propus core, and not the Deneb. Yours has no L3 cache, so may not perform as well in all situations. if you want the most out of your AM3 system, it may be worth trying to find a Phenom II 9XX, like this one here. That CPU has 6mb of L3 cache, and will probably OC better than the 840.
I would skip FX entirely.