If you were building the system yourself you would probably go for faster MHz ram but as long as they have good timings. A 1070 is also 2 models ago but a good card. A 256GB NVMe is nice but I'd like to see a 500GB. The B450 Motherboard was a safe bet in lieu of using a 570 board. Besides, the 570 boards have a fan on them....... yuk ! Well..... maybe be thankful it is a 450.
If I may add to this your graphic card choice and your viewing please greatly depends upon your monitor choice. If you have a 27" monitor @ 144Hz and 2K that is way different than a 1080p 22" monitor. Keep this in mind. Enjoy your build !
Fair enough..... The 2.5" can be used on older systems as an upgrade to HDD's and take less power to run and because there are no moving parts are subject to a much lower rate of failure. If you have a newer system that can take an M.2 card then you can get the same performance (or better) with the newer version. I have yet to see them in use but the newest drives must be wicked. I just wonder, how much is noticeable to the average user.
Not upset.... pointing out the cost to performance.
Why do you prefer the SSD or PCI Express 3.0x2 ?
I would have to agree with the M.2 drive but for 500GB why not go with a NVMe with 1700-2100+ read speeds. The type you are looking at are basically SATA which is a lot better than HDD but too costly compared to PCI Express 3.0x4 drives. These are the drives that have one notch at the base. Take a look at these
I write this with the most sincere of efforts to enlighten whoever might read this and avoid the pitfalls that many fall in.
I can assume by your name you like to game and you mention that your laptop doesn't permit you to do as you would like. What you don't tell us (very common) is what you want to use this build for other than gaming and if there is any other use (or not) what games interest you.
That said..... You got the top of the line gaming chip (i9-9900KS). You will pay a premium for this chip as you are getting a cherry picked 9900K. That isn't to say that a 9900K will be the same but you are promised certain things. I've compared for you these 2 chips from Intel should you care to look,
Moving on, most games live and die by the GPU. You have chosen the 2080Ti !
Not bad knowing that this is top of the line in terms of gaming graphic cards. Will this be enough to meet your games needs ? Display things on your (you haven't mentioned what type of monitor you plan to use/ are using) monitor to maintain lag free gaming. Or do you plan on a multiple monitor display? These can be reasons for stepping to the top tier cards.
The memory you have chosen meets or exceeds that listed by Intel for the CPU you chose. Given that this is the age of Ryzen, higher clocked memory is commonplace. But is this needed for Intel ? I'll let the datasheet speak to this topic. I know the response usually is. "but what about overclocking?" to which I'd say fine, does your motherboard support this and will you ever overclock your CPU in a way that this purchase makes sense? And if you only plan on gaming, does 64GB of memory make sense?
Let's now talk about storage. Your have chosen NVMe storage and I will commend that choice. The cost here for NVMe storage is on the high side because you went with a premium brand. Samsung provides great support and their Magician software. For anybody else I would simply say to compare read/write speeds to 2.5" SSD's. Due to supply/ demand constraints the use of a NVMe makes sense and to get a lower tier model such as Intel's 665P ($130) will give you 3X the performance of the conventional 2.5" SSD ($109).
Moving on to the PSU. You certainly do not want the cheapest power supply but you want to get one that will "match" your system. So, I used a calculator on Newegg's site and your system specs seem to point to a 511 watt requirement. In watching an interview with Johnny "Guru"..... He states that "most" folks are fine with Bronze rated supplies. The pennies you save with a Platinum rated supply may not be worth it. What to take away from the interview is .... Will the PSU warranty cover the cost the loss of any lost components due to its malfunction ? What about a UPS for a system ? Some type of a surge protector?
OS. Is Pro needed ? You have to know your use and what Pro offers compared to Home.
As I said, for anybody asking for help please let us know your intended use. Speculation is just a guess. Overbuying is a pitfall just as going the other way.
You can pick good parts but are they overkill or under-kill for your needs.
So let me ask you, "What do you plan on doing with your PC?"
Get a decent case .... you did
Whatever CPU you get match the memory to that .... Hmmmmm
But let us know your desires and this group what your goal is... they will help assist !!
Well you get more cores, lower single thread speeds, great multi-tasking assist, a younger less proven chipset....... but hey, time will tell how this all works together.
But if you only are going to game ..... I find it hard to find a game that uses 6 cores .... in fact ....
That's why I don't need a Threadriipper for gaming
You are correct about the GPU's ..... what I was looking for was AMD 5600XT
Can you wait until this comes out ?
Just a thought .... I did a search for GPU's for < $290 and there were 3 590 8 GB in there as well as several like 10 580 in both 8GB and 4GB.
Due to your case choice I thought you wouldn't want a non-modular PSU. So I dis a search for 500w -750w that are gold rated PSU's and there are several cheaper than your choice. Then I stepped down to bronze and there are a ton of choices. There are some savings out there you just have to make the call.
Thanks....... how is the Intel PC not performing or meeting your expectations ?
The Ryzen 3600 build looks good. But are 6 cores enough ??
I'm not trying to be a jerk but what are you doing that you need that ?
With your Intel build you have a 480 GPU..... You may just need to upgrade your GPU.
Do you plan on overclocking ?
What speed is your ram ? Don't spend your money on any crazy speeds like anything over 3000MHz. Keep the timings tight.
Why get an SSD ? The speeds are much slower than getting a M.2 type SSD like this one
Notice the speeds are 3x of the SSD you have listed on your build. This is not the fastest but it is 1TB and 3x faster than the SSD it is great.... oh, and no cables are needed.
I'm not sure about the H310 board .... let me look into that.
Is this your PC ?
As others have said.... this combination of parts is not necessarily well optimized. A 2080ti is a great card but the memory choice is confusing for starters.
Why do you feel that an Intel chip is a bad Idea for gaming ?
Sorry, one PC is Intel and the other is AMD and you want to do what ?
No wonder .… I could not find the m-3227 you mentioned in your post.
Can't find this system …. anywhere.
Are you sure that is the model number
What form factor is this ?
The issue with prebuilt machines often is their PSU or the fact that they are an OEM specialty that they are not easily replaceable.
Give me a chance to look it up. But you would want about 450-500 watts on the PSU.
Hey, don't mean to answer this in a crappy way but this is your call. A SATA SSD (2.5") is fast. NVMe can be 3x - 5x faster than that.
Kind of nice this newer technology. The world is your oyster. Get a company that gives good support. Should it be needed !!
I think they look good. I don't know about the BeQuiet Slim. I can tell you the Scythe Mugen 5 is easy to install and does a great job. The parts look really good.
The only thing that concerns me about 3rd Gen Ryzen is that on the motherboard there is a fan on the chipset. It concerns me for the long term. The chips offer a lot but not all is needed for gaming. Really nice for streaming too.
I realize the 2nd gen Ryzen's are at a great price but is that why you are looking at this ?
Yes they do. But why go with a 2.5" SSD when a NVMe SSD is faster for the same price. NVMe 3.0x4
Hey, you are more than welcome. Starting off on the right foot is a great place to start. So you wanted a list of NVMe's that I mentioned. Take a look here.....
These are M.2 NVMe PCI Express 3.0x4. Take a look at the read/ write speeds. The lower speeds like on the Intel 660p are very similar in price to 2.5" SSD's.
Yes, your 1000 watt power supply will work. I'd go with a 650 watt unit myself.
Don't avoid the Samsung name.
With this name you get an abbreviated version of Acronis to clone existing hard drives. You will also get the Samsung Magician Software. They do make a good product.!!
I would like to mention that the read/ write speeds of a SATA SSD is about 530mbps where as an NVMe from Samsung is 3000+. That speed may seem too fast you can get other drives that are the same price as the SATA SSD that run 3x faster. Yep, 1700 -2100.
Other that that being kind of new ...... you'll want to keep the build process simple. The heatsink for the 9700K .... check out the Scythe Mugen 5 .... This is a quality cooler which mounts very easily !!
The Power Supply ..... Well, 1,000 watts is overkill my friend.
Ram for an Intel CPU doesn't need to be faster than 2666MHz. That is speced out by Intel. The sticks can be noticed by the motherboard but will not benefit the CPU. It may not hurt in any way but again, not really beneficial for Intel. Take a look:
I would make a change to the SSD. Your board has 2 M.2 slots... I would suggest an NVMe drive. I did a sort on Newegg to show you 500GB & 1TB NVMe that are 3x faster than your SSD. True, maybe not as large but I think you will like the speed it possesses.
Take a look.......
The Z390 board will see the memory but the chip will not any use of it. The Ryzen chips makes us think that faster has an advantage. Not true when you go with Intel. But the supply and demand with all speeds can't be ignored because you might get a good deal.
Your system is quite a gaming beast !
You can build your own for many reasons …… Can I ask your reason ?
As your list is written you have an Intel i7 9700K with 3600MHz memory. Please know that Intel processors only recognize 2666MHz memory. Look here https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/processors/core/i7-processors/i7-9700k.html
You have 2 fans with the case. That should be plenty. The front fan should be aligned so it blows over the GPU. The rear fan will exhaust. The GPU is already cooled so relax.
Set up ...... don't fight what naturally happens. Heat rises !! Let the top and rear exhaust. Relax !!
It will all fit !
You have 2 fans with the case. That should be plenty. The front fan should be aligned so it blows over the GPU. The rear fan will exhaust.
Set up ...... don't fight what naturally happens. Heat rises !! Let the top and rear exhaust. Relax !!
you are more than welcome
according to their website it is compatible with 7th Generation
Keep in mind the footprint of your case is what matters as the height is inconsequential
I'm going to have to take issue (or caution) with the Ryzen being better comment and here is why:
You want to run games mainly …… Intel makes the better chips for gaming performance. The X570 boards are nice but something to think about for long term... The X570 chipset has a fan to cool it. What happens if it goes bad ? I mean the performance numbers are nice but another mechanical thing make me wonder.
Now you picked the 9700K which is not the 9900K which is the best chip strictly for gaming. The 9700K is not that but pretty darn good. If you do go with Intel you do not need 3200MHz memory. The Z370 boards recognize the speed but the chips will only see 2666MHz. Keep in mind.... supply & demand so if the memory is good and inexpensive then it may be best for your build.
Now that I said all of that..... @ViperSavage is correct if you plan on doing more video editing. Ryzen has more cores/ threads and damn good core speeds and is better than Intel in editing/ rendering. But my caveat about the chipset fan is still out there.
Oh...… and definitely all the rest that @ViperSavage had to say!!!
On the middle buile ...... What will you be streaming ?
I like that you plan to use the capture card.
What kind of monitor will you be playing on ?
144Hz or 60Hz ?
It matters what resolution and settings. Must you play with them maxed out ?
Oh, absolutely !
Heck, Intel is NOT the only player in the CPU business ! Because AMD is different you must consider supply/ demand driving the cost of memory. So if it is a good buy …….. Then get it. But don't be misled...…… That is what I'm trying to convey.
That is a great question and I'll try to explain. The first article from TechSpot does not tell what brand CPU they are using. It is pretty well documented that AMD seems to benefit greatly. As for my claims about Intel, the second link (Reddit) says it depends on the motherboard. Although that appears to be true (look here under the specs for memory)
The ASUS board shows all these overclocked memories but in the small print it says " The maximum memory frequency supported varies by processor"
Then I would point you to Ark Intel ...
Clicking on the 9700K you find that the supported memory is 2666mhz. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/186604/intel-core-i7-9700k-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html
Now if you get faster speed memory it will just work at the slower speeds. So, tighter timings are better. Having two sticks of memory is more important.
Heck, if you have a great sale on memory that is 3200MHz ……. go for it..... just don't think that will help out your Intel CPU.
I can't see anything
You don't need 3200Mhz memory for Intel. Just keep the timings tight and the CAS low. Look for 2666Mhz memory.
Ad for the WD Green drive you can find better NVMe drives (they are faster) and look for 500GB because there are sales now. Even consider 1TB too. For example ….
You went for a solid cpu so your GPU should kind of match that. I'm thinking a 2070 or better or if you like AMD's offerings look at the 5700XT
You say you need help with the memory ??
Good Luck to you.
I would go with a moderate speed M.2 NVMe (1700-2000) which is better than the 2.5" SSD.
But this does look good to me !
When I go here to look at what this gives as a reference you GPU seems to hold you back
and when I look at assassins' creed 4
Again, your GPU is showing it's age although this site likes the pairing of the two pieces.
Well looking at the recommended settings for Witcher 3, the CPU & GPU exceed their recommendations. I know you're trying to game at 144Hz but I don't see your CPU as a problem. Hmmmmm…….
I'll research this a bit...…. Sorry .
I don't see why these should be a problem for you...… I really don't.
I would like to ask are all your drivers up to date ?
Is your GPU in a 16x PCI slot ?
How about your memory..... does it all appear ?
What game or is it games ?
You have a 1080 / 144Hz monitor and a RX 580
And what seems to be your issue ?
Sorry, I DID read that...……. my bad.