ive been running a 120gb ssd for years ive never run up against storage usage and i download pictures music and games onto it. most of my storage is on the hard drive. As for the hard drive ive boughten tons of used ultrastar hard drives and have had 0 issues with them.
its a nice refresh of an older system. a 1070 is a good gpu for that cpu. Im sure it will do just fine
You can still OC with an 8 pin connector. The kind of OCing he is talking about you would need to be throwing crazy voltage at and you would need custom liquid cooling to tame that heat.
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There are a couple ways to get this cheaper
on ebay if you search rx 470, rx 480 rx 570, rx580 you can get them for 80 -90 dollars. If you do that it will set you under budget. Avoid anything that mentions mining.
here is an example of a good card to get
I didn't include any audio because i don't know if you want speakers or headphones.
you got yourself a banger of a system. love the theme. just curious what the second build would be for?
nothing wrong with a 1070 for 160 bucks. getting rid of multi gpu's is the smart thing. Support for it is horrible these days and everything is cpu bound anywho
its a very clean build nice job! always love frost builds
I wouldn't go to a new platform. I would just get an i7-4770 and upgrade to 16gb of ram.
If you want to upgrade the gpu to a 1660 super that would be enough IMO.
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im a strong beleive in a good air cooler of liquid cooling. I find air cooling to be more reliable and since you have a case that can take advantage of it get the noctua dh15. Its silent/ high performance and over a long period of time more reliable. If a pump goes out on a prefab liquid cooler your cpu will immediatley roast. if a fan goes out your temps will slightly go up and you can just buy a replacement fan.
I know you said only amazon but i would get the graphics card off of ebay. you can get a rx 480 for 80 dollars for an 8gb. that would put you in budget and you would get a better video card.
also it isnt linking the cpu
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im glad you mentioned the single slot. i was only looking at the motherboard. you need both a single slot and a half height card unless you take the motherboard out of the case. you cannot fit a full height cpu unless you are going to cut up the case. I mean you CAN slot it in and use it if you leave the computer sideways and keep the side panel off and the pcie bracket doesn't block the videocard from slotting in, but if you want that computer to close up properly then you will need a single slot half height gpu like the gt 1030 gddr5 or the rx 550. the rx 550 is the most powerful single slot half height gpu on the market atm. its either that or a gt 1030 gddr5 for an upgrade. I reccomend the bright pink rx 550 from yeston. you might need to borrow the pci bracket from your 730 to have it in properly, but its pretty much the only option you have for that computer to play apex legends.
im not sure if that is a "deal" on aliexpress its a 70 dollar chip and there are 65 dollar boards out there. for craigslist id top out at 120 probably 110
that computer is a low profile from what i can find. they need to make sure its a gtx 1650 low profile
one big question i have about your computer is that is the tower one of the really skinny ones or is it a full size tower? If it is a low profile tower there is only a few options for a gpu upgrade. Those would be the rx 550 LP, rx 460lp GTX 1050 LP (or 1050ti LP), Or the gtx 1650 LP. low profile cards can get a bit pricey so you only want to purchase one if you need a low profile card.
the Yeston RX550-4G D5 LP Graphics Card Radeon Chill GDDR5 128Bit VGA+HDMI+DVI-D GPU brand new on ebay.ca is 130 ca and would let you play apex legends at 720p low settings with a decent framerate and little stuttering. for 230 ca you can get the gtx 1650 low profile and play at 1080p high settings with a locked framerate. I would personally go for that.
realistically it comes down to 2 gpus for an upgrade and that depends on how much you want to spend
so your computer does meet the minimum requirements as is, but that gpu is really is going to be the weakspot. The gtx 1650 is a good option since you won't have to switch the power supply and it would be a huge improvement. Cpu is fine right now, but if you find a used i7-4770 it might be a worthwhile option on ebay. I also see intel xeon e3-1231 v3 on ebay for 97 bucks and would perform the same (though you would have to see if its compatible, its the same socket but that doesn't mean it will work). As mentioned by the other comment adding an SSD would be a great option, but i usually cheap out and go with a 120 or 240gb ssd and just store the games on the hard drive. As for the ram i would look at used ebay ram. a 16gb kit would be great (2x8gb) but its not like 75 CAD is expensive for 16gb. a used kit is about 60 bucks.
If i were updating this i would do this
intel Xeon e3-1231 v3 for 97
16gb ddr3 (2x8gb) for 60
240gb ssd for 50
GTX 1650 lp for 224
grab an extra sata cable so you can have the hard drive and SSD hooked up
to be clear though the gpu is the first priority. get that and see if it feels fine. If it doesn't get the ram then the cpu. the ssd is really just to make the computer run smoother.
yea i know what you mean. I remember I was selling a build about a year ago with an i5-3570k, some z77 atx board that you could OC on, an r9 fury with a 120gb ssd and 1tb hard drive, with an atx case 120mm intake and exhaust with liquid cooler and i was asking 500. someone tried to convince me it was only worth 200 dollars. i said no and they tried to argue with me about it. he was telling me for that kind of money someone should get a ryzen 5 1200 and gtx 1050 lol.
thats a fancy machine for just paying taxes. probably could have gotten away with a micro atx board for 60 bucks, an athlon 3000g and 8gb of ram. either way you got a solid machine and it will do just fine for what you want!
you got yourself quite a capable machine! that mousepad alone shows the fact that the laptop was rocking some sort of am2 or core2 processor. (or older) that was a flashback to my compaq laptop that ran vista. nice job and nice upgrade.
You got yourself a good start to a computer. Sure the 1050ti is not the strongest card in the world, but it can play anygame on the market at least, even if you are turning settings down to achieve that. Don't rush yourself into purchasing a new gpu. They will only go down in price and you will be able to get better and better performance for the same price the longer you push it out
nice job with the builds. the most interesting part here is the case. I saw that there is 3 spots for fans. Is there a reason you only went with 2 exhaust fans instead of say 1 intake 1 exhaust or 1 intake 2 exhaust?
you got yourself quite a powerful machine and that is some really solid prices for your gear. Nice job with the deal hunting. just curious are all of your fans setup as exhaust fans? they all look like they are puling air out of the case
to be fair that is everywhere. you just see them all of the time because no one purchases them. the actual good deals go up then are quickly taken down
if what you mean by "heat up so it melts" is the cpu got ripped out by the cpu cooler when removing it i reccomend just rotating the cooler left and right while gently pulling on it. you never want to force it out, another option is to lift up the rentention arm while doing this if you can get access to it if it really doesn't want to go. You have a nice computer, just be careful with that cpu. especially if part of the pin is missing. id check the socket to see if the other half is stuck in there
that sounds like a setting in the bios to get it to wake up from sleep in windows 10. Its still a solid system though you got there. i went from fx to ryzen as well and it was a worthwile upgrade
this is quite a sensible build. nice job with the computer. it will perform great for a long time
its a good start for a gaming pc. i personally would have went with a ryzen 5 1600 over a 2200g since they are about the same price, but your computer will do just fine. nice job!
nah that is the cheapest on for sale on amazon.
i want to purchase that case so bad. I have an older computer with a core 2 duo e8400 and an HD6670 gddr5 i put xp on. I really should be using a much older videocard for what i want to do. Currently its running halo combat evolved at 1440x900 max settings. some of the older games like dirt track racing i can't use the gpu on and i have to use the intel graphics on them since the drivers are too new. I was thinking of going to something like an HD 3650 or even older like a 2400xt. Maybe ill have dual gpu's one for old stuff and one for new since they are dirt cheap.
thanks. i will say a lot of the cleverness of my builds is pointless at this point since so many of them are outdated and unusable anymore. there are practices i can use from those days, but 8 threads is the minimum at this point and most of those builds are dead in the water.
you did a great job with this build. you can't go wrong for that price. 8 threads with a pretty decent gpu. It will be able to play every game on the market for quite a while. granted there is no real upgrade path other then gpu, but in this price bracket that is a vapid complaint. Nice job!
im not sure if older hardware is where i would put the focus of this build. ITX form factor with having the additional pcie slot is where this shines. its smaller then mini itx cases but has more expansion.
ah but i did obviously read the description. I specifically said " that motherboard is the worst offender though. that board was never worth 360 dollars." because that board had a launch price of 130 dollars. I understand some of the parts might have been purchased a while ago such as the 3770 (which maybe 3 years ago 190 would have been a good price for it) and the rx 580. but unless they purchased the rx 580 during the mining craze (which if they did still OUCH because 330 dollars for that card stings) 330 was way too much for that card. My point still stands that he overpaid for the parts. Its a nice computer but that was very expensive for what he got.
If i would have done things differently i would have gotten a MUCH cheaper motherboard (because 360 for a micro atx lga 1155 at any time point is ridiculously expensive), saved 16gb of ram for a different build. and would have waited on purchasing the gpu.
the part matching (aside from the ram) is great and sensible, the parts are put together nicely and with clean cable management. I'm not knocking the guy at all for what he put together, its just that the computer he build is realistally a 500 to 600 dollar computer at best
i made a build in this case. Your build makes much more sense in this. I had an rx 470 (xfx single fan WAY TO BIG) it fix but it scraped both sides of the inside of the case, ryzen 5 1400, 16gb ram, cougar 500w psu, 120gb nvme ssd, 1tb hard drive, pci wifi card, and a silverstone 120mm slim case fan. the cpu cooler i got a bit creative on though. i bought this for 9 dollars 4 Heatpipes CPU Cooler 3Pin PWM LED 90mm Cooling Fan Radiator Heatsink for Q1K4 off of ebay and used an 80mm noctua grey fan . i had the fan pulling the air up rather then pushing it down and it forced the air out of the case through the power supply. Its a tough build but nice job with how you did yours
its a really nice build! however why are you running dual gpu's?
ouch on the price. Its not a bad build, but if those are the prices you paid then you spent way to much on this. that cpu is worth 80, the GPU is worth 120 on ebay. that motherboard is the worst offender though. that board was never worth 360 dollars. on ebay they are 50-60 bucks these days. I would have personally spent a lot less on the motherboard, gotten a different gpu for that kind of cash (or spend 120 for it instead) and then taken that money and thrown it at extra storage or a cpu upgrade
price doesn't mean quality. Apeiva and Raidmax sell more expensive power supplies that are gold rated and i would trust this over them
the performance hit wouldn't have made it worth it. that cpu is 80 dollars. 29 dollars more. this computer for 265 is a much better value then the same computer for 230 with integrated graphics. you would be going from 1080 medium/high settings to 1080 low instantly. some games you would have to do 720
your motherboard has a bottom slot that is the old school pci. those cards are much weaker but it would be the kind of horsepower you would be looking for in a windows xp machine. ATI TECHNOLOGIES FIREMV 2400 (4) MONITOR PCI CARD - P/N 102A5940200 + CABLES
they are 12 dollars. its a single slot card that doesn't need power connectors. However if you are not using any 3d accelerated programs in xp it isn't neccessary
yea i saw the multiple operating systems. By all means i understand it just isn't for windows xp. I just know that is getting harder to get compatibility with it and specific use cases. I see you have an unpopulated pci slot. if you ever want to go back and play some of those older games something like an HD 5450 pci could be slotted in and work just fine for windows xp, but its not really a big deal.
why? this would perform better then the integrated graphics of a 2200g and the cpu performance would be pretty much the same. spending 80 dollars to get worse performance seems like a waste
this is a seriously sweet build. this is better then just a case mod of a little paint and some bits and bobs attached. that paint job is amazing and all the small touches are great!
this will do just fine. the horsepower for cpu is about the same its the graphics card is where the cost is cut. extra threads like discord don't affect the gpu at all. It will run apex just fine. If you dont care about settings im sure at the default it will play 60fps no problem
certianly an interesting use case for this computer. The thing i wonder though is how are you using a 1050ti on windows xp? i saw some modded drivers for xp but ive seen iffy sucess with that.
use what you got its the right attitude especially on a secondary pc for guest to use. future proofing a computer that isn't used on a daily basis is a waste. if it doesn't do what you want it to do you can always upgrade later. prices only go down for computer parts.
I love the case and throwing a modern build in it. The gpu though if you can return i would. a used rx 560 is the same price as this and would run circles around it. and if you can squeeze your gpu budget a bit further a used rx 470/480/570 is around 65-85 dollars and would blast even the 560 out of the park.
i clicked on this as soon as i saw the sharkoon case. yea yea sure all the other parts are good and all but i like seeing different parts like that case.
the availability is a bit weird here in the states. for 43 dollars that case is a banger.
really solid build you got here. for 250 its impossible to argue with. easy upgrade paths and inexpensive to so where it matters. nice job!
i wouldn't worry about a bigger SSD if you are adding a 1tb hard drive. i use a 120gb ssd and have for years. im still fine on storage, i just keep my games on the hard drive.
its a good start for pc gaming. find a 2nd hand rx 570 or rx 480 on ebay for 80 bucks and you will have a real banger.
This will do just fine. the biggest improvement they will notice between their old computer and this is the SSD vs the hard drive their old computer would have had. sure extra ram and extra cpu horsepower is nice, but SSD's are the biggest quality of life improvement for cheap computers. All the parts you bought are perfectly sensible for this build and they will have 0 issues with the hardware. nice job!
this is a neat blast from the past. there are a few things you can do to bring it up to snuff with 2018. the ammount of ram is fine so i would leave that alone, swap the i7 out for a 6 core xeon to get some additional threads in it. The biggest thing though would be switching the videocard out. If you bought a second hand rx 480 or 570 that would make this thing feel a lot faster and stronger. Though if you are not playing any games that would benefit from the extra horsepower don't worry about it.
slab of cardboard will do the trick too.