Yeah, for anyone that doesn’t truly need a mobile computer (90% of laptop owners), Mini PC’s are amazing!
Thanks! I just added a 2TB SSD this week! It’s running like a champ; I love this lil’ system!
Nice job!! I was super nervous when I built my first one, too. Luckily, I have several friends who are PC gurus.
Both USB ports on the case share one motherboard connector. This Mini ITX board has two USB headers on the motherboard: one header handles up to two USB 2.0 ports, the other handles up to two USB 3.0 ports. Just gleaning at the support docs for the 'Asus B450I Rog Strix Gaming motherboard', it appears that board has the same setup: one of its two USB headers supports two USB 3.0 ports.
Ryzen’s are compatible with B350’s IF the motherboard has a recent-enough BIOS that’s compatible... When I bought this, a lot of people were getting these mobos, only to find the BIOS wasn’t yet updated. They then had to get a free ‘loaner’ CPU from AMD to update the BIOS, then they’d ship the loaner CPU back to AMD, and could use their Ryzen CPU.
I purchased this one because Newegg started putting “Ryzen 2000 ready” in the description of some of their mobos. They advertised that any mobo with that designation would be guaranteed to ship with an updated BIOS which supports Ryzen. Worked like a charm!
One of the best-looking PC's I've ever seen. Awesome job!
Haha, why is it called ‘John McCain’??
Nice build!! I think you did great on getting as much performance as you could, for the price!
I enjoyed your write-up! Thanks for sharing!
Nice! Taking an average of your given range, $165+/mo is a nice chunk o’ change!
Curious, and don’t feel like you need to share, but what kind of $-per-day can you currently get out of an i7 and a pair of 1080ti’s? I get that that’s highly dependent on your local power pricing, what the crypto market’s current pricing’s at, etc; but in general what’s the real $ gained per day for you, right now?
Google’s “Henbane river”... Far Cry 5.
Nice title, I’m a fan of that case, and you have good thorough write-up!!
Makes sense, thanks!!
Amazing, mind-blowing build! +1
Question: I assume you’re doin’ some form of machine learning with this, based on your description. Aren’t the Titan-level GPU’s the best investment for that, more than a ultra-high-end CPU like the i9? Or is it dependent on the data/algorithms you’re using (backprop neural networks, elastic net, regression trees, etc)?
I can’t hear the fan or PSU from like 8 feet away, when the room is dead quiet. I can hear a quiet whir from the fan when I’m like 3-4 feet away, but I’ve never heard the PSU.
Isn’t that an ‘In Win Chopin - Silver’? I built an HTPC using the same case (and CPU!), but in black. I love it!
Nice build! Good, thorough write up. And I love the title :)
+1 for funny title!
I saw ‘NAS’ and thought of the rapper by the same name, and his best album which was ‘Illmatic’! Then there’s a little tie-in to ‘ill’ which (loosely) meant ‘cool’ in the 80’s! My references run deep! :)
“Although hot, loud, and unwilling like a cornered babe in a dark alley”
This is great! Awesome job, good attention to detail, nice unique touches throughout. PCPP needs more of this, less $4,000 1080ti/hard tubing/RGB clones.
I am the sand guardian, guardian of the sand!
I agree. If nothing else, grab a cheap 1060 from Craigslist.
Just 'discovered' the NCase M1 today, and I'm smitten... Giving serious thought to migrating an existing build to this case. I'd have to buy some new parts, but that case is so small and aesthetically pleasing!
I really like your attention to detail. 99/100 builders would ignore some noise from the side panels, but you DIY’d a solution. I think that level of perfection is where serious builders are headed!
Pretty sure the power supply's a proprietary one, from what I've read. So I don't think an upgrade's possible. The custom PSU form-factor may be the scariest part of this build: if the PSU dies in a year or two, will I be able to find a replacement?
I haven't measured my power draw, but I recall someone on reddit having almost the exact setup that I have, and It was like 30w at idle, or something. I'm sure I'm barely using any power, since I'm just using it as a headless Plex server, andI've had zero issues with everything running 24/7.
There are several other 'Chopin + 2400G builds here on PCPP, and none complain about running into power issues. This guy https://pcpartpicker.com/b/NFCbt6 even overclocked his 2400G a decent amount, and didn't seem to have problems.
Here are a couple reddit threads that discuss the Chopin's 150W PSU, where people questioned if it's powerful enough: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/82mx70/my_r5_2400g_inwin_chopin_mini_itx_build/ & https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/83m0eg/ryzen_2400g2200g_can_be_made_to_fit_into_an_inwin/
Older's motherboard's potential (initial) incompatibility with new Ryzen chips ("Raven Ridge") is a huge pain.
You can't assume that older motherboard's, like this ASRock, can use a newer Ryzen chip right out of the box. Newer AM4-socket boards like the B450 and X470's (e.g. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813119101) do support Raven Ridge from-the get go.
If you are looking for a 350/370 board, if you can get one locally, a lot of shops will update the BIOS in-house and put a 'Ryzen 2000 Ready' sticker on the box. I've seen stories that folks buying from Amazon and Newegg have randomly received mobo's that've had their BIOS updated after the fact.
I bought that ASRock mobo from Newegg, because they updated that product page to say, "Ryzen 2000 Ready!" (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157780). I haven't looked to see if Amazon's guaranteeing that there's are Ryzen 2000 ready?
If you get a board without a guarantee from teh seller that the BIOS is ready for the new Ryzen chips, you have two options that both involve quite a bit of hassle:
1) if you (or a friend) have an older, unused AMD chip, you can use that older CPU to get to the BIOS on the mobo, update the BIOS, then remove that chip and install your Raven Ridge Ryzen CPU.
2) You can request a free loaner CPU from AMD. If you have a mobo with an old BIOS, and a new Ryzen CPU, you have to do a little work, but they'll mail you a loaner CPU that you can use to update the BIOS. You have to mail it back within two weeks. https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/2Gen-Ryzen-AM4-System-Bootup.aspx
I hope you can find a 'Ryzen 2000 Ready' board! FYI, Newegg often knocks $ off if you bundle parts like CPU+Mobo, or CPU+Mobo+RAM. On the 'May We Suggest' area of their product pages, look for 'Combos'. I was able to get the Mobo+CPU for about $15-$20 off.
Dammmmmn that’s clean. Wow. One of the best looking builds I’ve ever seen.
Nice build! I enjoyed your thorough write-up.
“now I am not sure what to do with myself” +1
‘I built it!! Wait, now it just sits there..?’ The life of a pcpartspicker -__-
FWIW, I love it! Super sturdy, good quality overall.
Per the label on the back(!) it’s a ‘Progressive Furniture P754 Emerson Hills - White‘: http://www.progressivefurniture.com/Product/Entertainment/P754%20Emerson%20Hills/594507c4-d0ab-4266-af95-177adeec7100.aspx. Looks like it comes in a few widths/finishes.
I got it from Nebraska Furniture Mart (www.nfm.com) for about $600 I think..? They have stores in Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, and Texas, that I know of.
I went with the In Win Chopin! https://pcpartpicker.com/b/YGdXsY
I was going to go with the Elite 110 if I used a stand-alone GPU, but went with a Ryzen chip with onboard graphics, so I decided to forgo the separate GPU. It won’t be used for gaming, so the surprisingly good on-chip graphics is more than enough.
I figure that if I ever want/need a GPU in my HTPC then I’ll just buy a case like the Elite 110, and migrate the parts over!
Congrats on the feature! Personal advice, get an attorney to handle the press requests, and get off social media. Now that you’ve been featured on pcpartpicker.com, old relatives and friends are going to start coming out of the woodwork, wanting a piece of you.
That case is sexyyyy! I love it!
I have the Yamaha YAS-207BL. It’s showing as $300 at the stores I just checked, but two weeks ago I got it for $250 from amazon?
My friends and family have a running joke where anytime someone asks me what —— to buy, no matter the product, I tell them to go to thewirecutter.com, and just buy whatever that site recommends! It’s got so bad, I don’t think I could buy a box of cereal unless thewirecutter tells me which cereal to buy! The site just does such a good job of explaining what they reviewed, how they reviewed it, and why they chose the pick they did. Very thorough.
The site actually recommend the best overall pick as a 5.1 system from Visio, but I have no interest in dealing with the hassle of running power and wires up the back wall of my living room, so I just went with the sound bar+subwoofer combo. I also chose the Yamaha because it has 4K pass-through, which I am using.
The sound from the Yamaha system is very good! Not ‘$1000 5.1 system’ good, but it definitely punches above its weight!
We’re all waiting on that mining crash! Then we’ll all be buying 1070’s for $30, just to have a few spares laying around!
Thanks! Sites like this one make way-too-thorough build planning a snap! I think I looked at the other Chopin builds on PCPP like 10 times, each!
Using the stock cooler, and messing with the storage (Maybe m.2 + 2.5" HDD?), I think you could get this build down to $475 without much effort.
Perfect. Once I updated (installed?) the Radeon software from AMD, the HTPC output 4k seemingly without effort. I'm not really using the TV as a display, as the HTPC will mostly be headless, but it's nice to have the option.
And you're killin' it in the OLED department!
I think it does, but have to take some plastic shroud off? This dude knows de way:
And featured?! O.o
Hey, give them back! #DadJokes