how about this?
its a FM2+ board which allows you to upgrade to a better APU like the A10-7850k or 7700k when you have a bigger budget
and 400W might be too close for the original build so i choose a bigger PSU so that you still have room to add more HDD or better GPU without the need to replace the PSU
here is my take of the build trying to follow closely to the HP workstation build
the reason why the price is high is because of the professional GPU
another item which will blow the budget to the roof is the HP Dreamcolor monitor
this monitor is colour calibrated to get the most accurate colour as possible for animations
try this instead
will run much better in games compared to your choice
and you still can upgrade it down the road when you have the budget
not sure if this suggestion may work
but which program you will be using most of the time?
Lightroom or Photoshop?
Lightroom will need a powerful CPU while Photoshop needs a balance of CPU with GPU power
personally I will cut back on the CPU and choose a i5 4670K and bump up the GPU to a Geforce GTX 770 for the CUDA which is helpful in Photoshop
but this is my suggestion, and I may be wrong
well not sure if my suggestion helps
you might want to follow the configuration give by HP workstation
my temporary previous employment as a desktop support at a animation studio and the workstations are pretty much like the above but comes with 6 core Xeons and Quadro 6000 series GPU
yea looks better that you can see the mobo along with your GPU
i have to agree with you point here
a front mounted PSU is weird
looks like the Cube DS will be the next buy
"if i remember correctly"
the only way to cool the VRM is good old fashion RAM cooler heatsinks
yup all good
if you do proper cable management
air flow should not be a problem
RAM use 2x4GB kits for dual channel mode
otherwise looks good
for Intel you don't really need really fast RAM
1600MHz are more than enough for most system unless it is the AMD APU builds
if you go for a cheaper RAM you could spend the difference on a better PSU which is at least gold rated from Seasonic
IMO i think you could invest on a GTX770
this will be a much better build compare to your original
the minimum builds are at least 4 cores for the everyday multitasker
that SSD won't get you far if you install games and download music
1TB will be good, added a SSD ReadyCache for slightly faster bootup and loading times
question, whats game you are playing?
and the max budget?
there might be issues with your build
could you link us with your system build?
also have you update your drivers?
if you budget allows
get a slightly bigger PSU like 500W+
430W might be a bit too close
do note the 32Gb SanDisk drive is meant for caching
not for OS installation
NCIX has a sale for the A10-6790K might be a better performer compare to the 5800k
yea the R9 290 might be a better option since you are running multi displays
so it may be a good idea to go single GPU instead of SLi
another review to support findings
SLi potential can only be harness with high res 2560x1440 monitors or nVidia Surround displays.
Power draw from 2 760s is more than a single powerful 780Ti
Noise and heat from 2 GPU will fry your system early if your casing isn't good with airflow.
thx for pointing out
dang just because of BitCoin or LiteCoin mining, prices of R9 280X gone up
Mantle API idealy works best with AMD systems like AMD CPU and GPU combo
claims to give up to 45% boost in graphics performance
both are 400 dollars card and they are pretty close in terms of performance but the R9 280X might edge out a bit in real world gaming while GTX770 has better benchmark scores.
use the Evo dimensions and use a plastic ruler to measure the depth of the casing starting from the CPU socket.
look at the 2 links
they give details of the GPU type and which model is similar to which
the evo and the x difference is in the fan unit used
the X has a longer life fan and better airflow
check the above links for the dimensions
yea don't need it after all
i would choose the i5 variant
but i would choose a PSU with at least 500W just for the extra upgrade options down the road
go for 1600MHz RAMs and Western Digital Blue 1TB is good enough
oh i completely forget about that
well he intends to install a new CPU cooler
so the stock thermal compound that was stuck on the stock AMD cooler is quite poor IMO and will affect the thermal performance of the new cooler.
that i not really sure about as i from asia
and usually i buy from my local stores
this link explains what happens
both are good
but just choose which is cheaper
answers to all your questions
1: yes it a good air cooler
2: yes they usually come with mountings for AMD or Intel Boards
3: don't need to, you just need to access your back of the motherboard to access the CPU mounting bracket.
4: yes, the stock thermal paste will dry up after subjected to high heat, so you will need to clean off the old thermal paste and re-apply new thermal paste to improve contact with the copper plate of the new cooler. Use alcohol wipes to carefully rub it off and do it a few times to make sure all residue of the old thermal paste are removed. Follow the instructions of the thermal compound manufacturer to apply the paste on the CPU.
heres the inside of the desktop
its a ATX size mainboard
so you will need a case which fits the ATX size and above
easily the R9 280X
it like a HD7970 and if you OC it you will get better framerate compare to GTX770
I made some changed to the build you friend suggested
might be slightly over the budget but this will let you game and multitask no problem
your friend should not use slow memory, 1333MHz RAMs will limit the inbuild graphics performance very badly.
And I will worry about the power supply unit as those have a high chance of failure. Look for proper branded ones like Corsair,Seasonic & CoolerMaster
There are better hard disk drives which are better than Seagates, I have a few Seagate External drive which died on me and all my videos and pictures are gone. Suggest go for brands like Toshiba or Western
do you need a wireless network adapter for you system?
I find it strange you friend chose a high end board but pair it with a CPU which is not able to OC.
as of now crossfire for AMD is not 100% stable and you will get the micro stutter when gaming.
Either going single GPU like the R9 290X Windforce OC from Gigabyte or SLi using Geforce GTX 780s but that will drive up the total cost of the system.
you could get the R9 270X Hawk from MSI
cheaper than the GTX 760 and will trade blows in terms of gaming performance
ah look at this video from LinusTechTips
this is a good question
but i would say it will be based preference of chipset
you can use the B85 or H61 chipset based mainboard for your desktop and still play great games.
the main factor which determines what game you can play are your GPU, CPU and RAM.
the link which you pointed me to do state that 2400MHz memory works but the writer pointed out that graphics performance was somehow limited to the memory controller and reach the upper limit of the A10-5800K at 2133MHz.
if it was the Richland or Kaveri, it might benefit from the 2400MHz memory better
you could try my APU build
although it is still a work in progress it could play BF4 on med
you could drop the expensive water cooler,my HDD and casing
in order to use the full power of your RAM
you will need at least the A10-6800k or A10-7700k or A10-7850k
and that mainboard do not support the speed your ram is running, you need the A88X series chipset based mainboard
woah didn't expect the audio drivers can crash the whole desktop
and we all suspected it was the PSU.
silly of us.
well AMD have already told me officially that certain brands and model of 2400MHz RAM may work but it is a hit or miss affair for the A10-5800K Trinity APUs
if you want your 2400MHz RAM to work at 100%
get at least the RichLand A10-6800K
if its the APU series
here is mine own take of the A10-7850K
oh i didn't know about their reputation,
sorry if i gave the wrong recommendation of PSU
i only have experience with Seasonic and CoolerMaster PSUs
could you show me link as in where i can see the A10-5800K using 2400MHz memory?