Since he is only playing League of Legends is there a reason to go to a 6 core vs the Ryzen 3 2200g?
Also as much as I would like to put an SSD into the computer I do not think I will do it at this time, maybe as a birthday present later this year. I am very much on the fence about replacing the PSU, it seems to have done the job but I do understand the concern about getting a new one after a few years if I am already doing other work on the computer.
I don't really trust those 3rd party sites, sounds like just a bunch of hacked codes.
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I tried to stick to black and white, but ran out of money when I got to the heat sink. I could drop down to a 970, get a color coordinated heat sink and add an additional 8gb of ram, and more storage.
Its so beautiful! beautiful!!! My only thought is the 5930k would give you more pci lanes and a little better performance.
I dropped the water cooling and got a faster processor. I also switched out the power supply for a better unit that is fully modular to reduce cables in the case and kept your monitor, its a good one my brother has one and its nice.
That cable management just hurts my eyes!!! I do agree the more monitors the better, when you get all that room to do whatever you need it is wonderful, I am only at 2 right now and plan on going up to 4 monitors.
I have built systems with both before, if you are stuck in a budget I say look amd, unless you have a larger budget, to go intel with at least a 4 core it will cost you $400 ish, and really for the gain I do not think its worth it. I would say do the graphics this upgrade and get some supporting upgrades like a SSD. I would wait for another series of intel to come out when ddr4 is cheaper, in a year or so. If you want to switch to intel you can but that would most likely spend your whole budget. At this point your CPU is not going to limit your graphics so I would'ent bother.
I added first a CPU cooler so you can push an overclock on your CPU to try and get a little extra performance out of it. Next I doubled your RAM so you have plenty to play with. I then added an SSD, since that is the easiest way to speed up a slow system. Finally I added a new GPU, an r9 380, It is a really good card for the money and will give you much more performance than your current GPU.
I put on here with it switched to the I7 6700k, the main reason I don't think its worth it at the current moment is that
6700k is more expensive than the 5820k
2 more cores than 6700k
6700k was having availability issues
This is what I would do, got you a 6 core since streaming is hard on the cpu, and at 1080p a 970 is enough power so no need for a 980ti or a fury. Also nice case with a fully modular power supply. If you want to drop it down 200ish you could go with the i5 6600k and a z170 board, but at that point you lose 2 cores and hyper threading I don't see it being worth the loss. Even dropping down to a 6700k you would only save around $50, most of that being on the motherboard, and that is really not worth the loss, for $50 you would lose 2 cores plus those 2 cores hyper threaded.
I was just about to start watching this build on youtube and now its here! this is awesome.
I will say from reading the comments is a PC build is only as good as the time and patience you can put in it. At least in my opinion. From trying to get the best sales and getting everything as fast and possible can really mess with a build. But its a start, I am sure you learned a ton from this first build, and where you went wrong and what to change. I would try and add an ssd in the future after you get a CPU cooler and add another fan to the top of the case to create negative airflow inside the case.
I will also say that Logitech g430 is my least favorite headset but its a decent value. I find that for some one with a larger head it gets very tight after like 30 minutes of wearing it, plus its hot.
I hope you learned a lot from this build and know what not to do next time, and hopefully this did not discourage you from trying again in the future. Overall you created a pretty decent value.
PS. I love the background of a AWP Redline, one of my favorite AWP's in CS GO. Luckily I got a StatTrak one.
I gave you a skylake cpu but from the sounds of it your a general user that does not need the K for overclocking. With that you can use the stock cpu cooler and a h170 board which saves you a bit of money. I got you 16gb of ram so you have plenty for multi tasking. I got you a 970 which is a solid graphics card and a good case and power supply.
I was able to fit in to your budget here. The xeon is in place of an i3 or even an i5, the xeon is actually an i7 4790 with out the integrated graphics. Since it is a locked processor I do not believe you don't need an after market cooler. I gave you 8gb of ram but would upgrade to 16gb if you plan on streaming. I got a 960 4gb card because its quality and for $15 for double the memory, I figured why not. At your price I would not fit a ssd in, but would add it in the future. I went with a H97 board since locked processor so no reason to have a z97. I got a decent case and a power supply that is semi modular to help with cable management. I got a mechanical hard drive again because its cheap and works. Good luck in convincing your dad, I know my parents were not comfortable at first with the idea but now I build pc's for them and all of their friends.
I came in under your budget, I included everything you would need minus a mouse, keyboard and headset. I could have stuck a second 980ti in there and got a lower quality monitor but I dint feel that it was important to have that extra horsepower vs having a quality display. I gave you an i7 with water cooling and a quiet case.
I'll bring some of these ideas up to her, she saved up while in high school and is just about to go to a tech school to get a degree in graphic design so she wanted to just go for it. I think the whole idea is I have this money, why not just get the best I can with the idea that she will not upgrade for at least 3 years afterwards. I will mention the subscription online because I have used some sites in the past for some help and it has done a ton as far as helping me learn new things and help me find cool tricks.
I did the original post with a little information from the person who I am building it for. They at first said a graphic design-build but then fast became a gaming PC with a lot of RAM so she has enough for graphic design. Before I build this we will talk about upgrade paths and maybe adding a FirePro in the future if she ends up needing it.
Well that can be quite the challenge to try and convince someone to spend more money. The way I was able to get a friend to spend more on his computer was to teach him about PC's and building. I also showed him how consoles are older technology and locked at 30 fps. Some good builds have already been posted on this thread, and really to maximize him budget you will want to look at buying some used hardware, or at least a used monitor since that can save you a bit of money.
Good luck, money is a touchy subject for many.
I want to start with thanks for the input, since I am building this computer for someone else we got talking and I showed her some of the parts that you guys recommended and did some talking. We ended up with the parts list before. Thank you for the input gave us a better direction.
This was weirdly similar to the builds that I had mocked up myself, minus the FirePro, since I forgot to mention, that the build needs to be able to use for gaming as well and Graphics design.
This is one really Clean looking build!
I want to start this out saying why I did not pick Skylake, I went with a xeon because at your price point to avoid suffering performance on the GPU or to have to put in lower quality parts in it by having to force Skylake. At this point you are paying such a premium for skylake that I am not sure its worth your time, also you can't fit an i7 into your price point. This xeon is effectively an i7 without integrated graphics. When you stream most of the programs you would be using are CPU intensive like OBS is CPU intensive so an i5 would lack in performance and suffer to other parts of the experience. I put 16gb of RAM to make sure you have plenty and at a fast speed. You also get an ssd for your main programs and OS. The best case out there right now in my opinion with the R5, super quiet and can change the cages based on what you have. I also got you a nice power supply that have plenty of juice so you can do sli in the future. For the GPU I got you a 970, love this card and has great drivers and support.
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I am in love with that Monitor.
Here you go, this is my take on a 3200 build. I put in a 5930k so both graphics cards can run at x16, also kept with a water cooler for the CPU so you can overclock or just keep everything cool. I got an MSI motherboard that will have all the options you need, even includes 6 SATA cables and an SLI bridge for you. I kept with 16gb of ram like your first build but instead I did this in a 4x4gb config, this is because the motherboard supports quad channel ram which is a bit faster then duel channel. Next for your storage solution, You had a 3tb mechanical hard drive and I kept that. The first change is instead of 1 1tb 850 Evo I went with 2 500gb 850 Evo's, they end up being about $20~ cheaper and then you can run in raid 0 for super fast performance. Next I added another 500gb 850 Evo but this time in a m.2 drive for extra SSD storage. I kept similar graphics card as the Original build. My next change was to switch to a Fractal Deign R5, it is a great, simple and quiet case that I personally run and Love it. I also switched up the power supply for an XFX one. Over all I came in slightly under your budget at $3200. If you wanted to bring it below 3k I would say drop the M.2 the other ssd's in raid 0 will be giving you great speed regardless. To round it out I added a extra fan for the front of the case to make sure you have enough air coming in to keep everything cool.
The thing with your current build is you cant get a better cpu unless your going to x99, as it sits you currently have the best cpu you can get with that motherboard. Also that case is great, personally I prefer the Fractal Deign r5 but that is just me. Also if you are spending that much money on a pc, you might want to look at picking up an m.2 ssd. If you want I will put together a build at your price point.
This is just my take duel 8 core with 128gb of ram for each, and a really nice power supply. Also 4 500gb ssd and under the 5k price point.
changed it a bit to add an ssd
I just got a few quick questions. Do you need an OS? Do you need a mouse and keyboard or monitor? I am going to put a build up assuming you just need a tower with an os, and you do not need wireless.
I will say a few things, I put in an overclockable cpu because I figured with that cpu cooler you want an overclockable cpu. If you are interested in going with an air cooler or even stepping back to a locked cpu that can save you some money and put more Ram in the computer, Or a small SSD, or what I would do is get a better mouse and keyboard. I will reply to my own post with a build with a locked CPU just to show you some difference of what that can do for you.
The way I look at it now taking a step back is you spent your money well for what you needed. Also just gives you a reason to upgrade when the next gen of stuff comes out.
I lover to see these X99 builds, I have to say it, would have gone with a different PSU. Overall cool build, I might have gone for cheaper ram but that's just me since I don't see much a point for the work I do past 2133. I always like white and black builds since they seem very sleek and clean lines. Also good job on those cables, I have seen it done before and that takes for every but can turn out looking amazing. I also like that your friend and a titan sitting around for some testing.... Next thing your going to tell me is he has a GPU shelf in his computer room.
I would have spent the money differently if I was you, but I am not and well I am also not a software developer. In my mind as a gamer I would have spent a bit more and have gotten a 950, but as you said in some previous comments it was the first part that you bought and may have already had before the 950 came out. I do like the m.2 drive and I understand the importance of your main programs being able to run super fast, I with I would have thought about that before I build my most recent rig. I guess I don't see as much importance on having the battery back up like you do at this moment but that could be an issue in your area where the power just kicks out for a second. Overall I like the build, again would change a few things if it was me, but like I said I am not a software developer I just a network admin. I also like the older case, its good to recycle and save some money to be put to other things. Would like to see some of your games as they come out or maybe when they are in beta you could give me a peak, I always liked playing games with bugs and trying to find them. The one thing I will say is look into an ultra wide monitor, I have a few programmer friends who love theirs.
The big question you need to ask yourself here is what games do you plan on playing? Are you a competitive gamer? Also do you plan on getting more then one 1440p monitor? These are the most important questions you need to ask yourself when selecting a 1440p monitor. If you play competitive games you will want 1 ms response time and 144hz. If you are playing games by yourself I would say 60hz and 5ms response time is fine. I will say it is hard to go wrong with the ROG Swift, it is an amazing panel, if you want to spend a little less there is a benq at below $400 that is a good monitor as well, it just all depends on what you want to use it for. I recommend if your not playing Competitive games that I would get a 1440p IPS panel with below 5ms, you can find one or tow of those below $400, also I find alot of value in getting a stand that allows height and tilt adjust, or vesa mount.
Great looking build, I wish I could get a job that would allow me to justify a computer like yours.
With this build it has a 6 core processor with 12 logical cores, this will help while using obs or other programs while streaming. I put a 970 in there since that is enough horse power for gaming in 1080p. I also put an m.2 ssd in there for lighting fast storage for your os and most important files with an extra hard drive for all your storage needs. Put it in a good fractal Design case with a solid power supply that has enough juice and connectors for 2 way sli.
I put together a build for you. My first thing is I went with the 5820k, you will get more cores and it is unlocked so you can overclock it up to the same speed as a 6700k and it has 2 more physical cores, and 4 more logical cores. I put a water cooler with it so you can overclock it and keep it cool. I gave you 32gb of ram, and your storage requirements of a 500gb ssd and 4tb hard drive. I also put a Titan X. At this point I put in an Fractal Design R5 which is my favorite case by far. I gave you a large efficient power supply so you can sli if needed. Finally I put in all matching fans for you. At this point you will notice I left a monitor off, the reasoning is that at the budget that is remaining up to $3500 is approximately $850, that can get you a lot of different monitors. You can get a 144hz benq gaming monitor for $410 at 27in, up at higher then 30 you run into mainly ultra wide monitors and I am not sure that is what you wanted. You can also get a 1440p monitor with a decent response time within your remaining budget. If I get get some more details on what you are playing if its competitive and what other monitors you have so we can try and match them size wise. I also want to address your questions about needing a sound card, in most cases it is not needed, more of a luxury that is personal preference in my mind.
Sorry for the slow reply. The reason I chose that monitor is that it is 1440p and has a 4ms response time. If you want to save some money you could get a 1080p monitor.
The 5820k would be the way to go since it has so much more power and should last you a solid few years.
If you had a lower budget I would have gone with a Xeon over the 4790k. Right now for what your doing I would think more cores the better and also more RAM. The 5820k will destroy the 6700k in performance. The six core will have no issue with gaming, even then most games will only use 1 or 2 cores, some might get up to 4, and then you have 8 logical cores remaining for whatever else you want to do. This should allow for higher performance and with a 6 core you wont have to upgrade as soon since at least for this next gen of intel chips they are still 4 core. Also DDR4 has come down a lot in price I am personally contemplating the upgrade. With only money being my holding point.... darn College tuition.
I'm just going to watch the stream during lecture from my teacher. Got to get ideas for my personal server build.
This is right during my Linux class but I should be able to watch while the teacher lectures.
Here is a build for you, I went with a Intel build. I chose a xeon since it is like an i7 but with out integrated graphics, it also runs pretty cool. I gave you 8gb of ram but can upgrade to 16gb by getting another set. I got you an M.2 drive an a mechanical hard drive. This way you have blazing fast speed for your important games and operating system and then mass storage. I chose a 970 since it is good for 1080p and can handle a lot as far as 1440p. I chose a solid Fractal Design S case. I am sure you can find 100 reviews on why it is a good case. I also put in a solid power supply that is efficient and is very high quality. I put in an OS, I do not know if you need one but its always something to consider with a budget. If you do not need a OS with in your budget I can make some changes.