I originally had in the 1500x, but tossed that in as I figured I could make it work with budget. However, it is something I am still on the fence for. If I can grab him a nicer 27/29" monitor and drop the CPU down, will be something I will lean towards doing for sure! Thanks for input
Not a bad build. Spending 220 bucks on keyboard/headset seems excessive to me for this budget. I would look into buying a keyboard/mouse combo like the CM Devastator or Thermaltake combo to save 60 or 70 bucks. Also, the Cloud headset is cheaper and not much difference besides surround, which is not a massive improvement. I would look at upgrading these down the line if you want to save a few bucks.
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Grab a gaming keyboard/mouse combo like the Devestator or Thermaltake set. Much cheaper to start and still works fine. I would get rid of the HDD to start and add it in when he gets a few more bucks as the first upgrade and just start with the SSD for his OS and favorite game or two. Look into seeing if he can get a copy of Windows through school or work. Depending on the games he plays, an RX 470 may work perfectly fine as well, or at least dropping down to a 4GB card. Hope a few of these changes help.
Here is the rough idea of your build with a few changes. As you want to keep it red/grey/black, I changed a few of the RGB components. Switched out the Pro Carbon for MSI Tomahawk, got Silver/Red Trident Z RAM at a faster speed, used an EVGA G3 PSU which is high quality and cheaper (can get away with a 550w as well), and threw in a generic SSD/HDD combo.
EDIT If you already have the custom sleeving for a Corsair PSU, can grab a RMx series as well.
Holy balls the price of that PSU. How NICX? Wish I lived in the US for this deal!
koolkk has some good suggestions. I would look into a Cryorig H7, H5 or Scythe Fuma for the CPU cooler. All significantly better for slight price increase. Also, I could switch out SSD for a MX300, SK Hynix, or an AData. Cheaper prices for similar performance. Case fans could be looked at for different options, but build looks solid to say the least!
$200 in fans seems a little excessive. The 32gb of RAM is excessive, but can see you wanting to fill all of the slots. If you weren't attached to the RAM, could grab a 4x4 set (I love the Trident Z RAM) so could see wanting to keep it. I would look at switching the SSD out for an MX300 - 25GB more storage and save 15-20 bucks. I do agree with the others regarding the case, but that is solely personal preference as you are building in it and everyone has different tastes. Build will be one badass machine!
$35 more but better PSU, CPU cooler, unlocked CPU, slightly cheaper mobo and GPU, and different case. That is a gigantic case and without watercooling or going multi-gpu, don't see the point. The Phanteks is a much nicer case that is still a good size.
Incredibly clean PC and desk setup. Huge fan of the aesthetics. Was BIOS update a pain in the ***? Reason for the Z170 over 270 (price/availability)? Also, what do you use the computer for - just wondering as it is a beautiful and powerful setup with only a 1050ti. Thanks and +1
Not bad, but definitely wouldn't put an itx board in a ATX case. I would either grab an itx/micro case or get a bigger board. If you are getting it because of the built-in wifi, there are full size boards with that option as well. Or, can always add in a wireless card.
$130 keyboard in this price range to me doesn't make sense. I added a solid budget keyboard/mouse in which you can add your better board (if you still want to) a few months down the line when you can afford it again. This allows to put in an i5 processor, a small SSD for OS and favorite couple games, switched case to a tempered glass black/red S340, dropped PSU down as wattage was overkill, changed to RX480 8gb, but this is preference, all while keeping the black/red theme.
What Crazy said. MSI has a great BIOS and will help with an automated OC. Some reviews have even said the automated one can hit 5-5.2ghz. Crazy. I wouldn't recommend anything nearing that high with the air cooler, but it will definitely let you push it to a comfortable mid-to-high 4ghz OC. There are a lot of videos on youtube if you want to see how it is done or works.
What I meant. Thanks for correcting
If you are keeping an unlocked CPU (k-series) you should be having a Z-series board to be able to OC and use it to its true potential. If you do not plan on overclocking, can drop down to a B150 board and grab a 7700 CPU.
Unlocked vs locked. k-series can be overclocked
Had pretty much the exact same build but a different mobo/cpu cooler for $2 different. Solid suggestion
If it is for gaming, the 7600k will perform more then well enough for you. Opened up some budget to upgrade to a GTX 1070 and double your SSD storage for all $6 more.
That board will drop any speed down as it only can run at 2133 or 2400. So if you buy 3200, it will drop it down in speed anyways. I'm not sure if there would be any stability issues, don't know enough on the issue to give you proper info, but my buddy got 2400 ram for his H170 board and it caps it at 2133 with no issues. RAM rated above 2400 will still work and be compatible as long as they are DDR4, but will just slow down or cap the speed at 2133 or 2400.
Significant, probably not. Noticeable, most likely. If you are waiting for sales, might be able to scoop up some parts for less and throw the extra few bucks into the CPU cooler to grab something a little nicer like a be quiet dark rock 3 or noctua if you are staying with air cooling. Even a couple of the mid range phanteks coolers. Can probably find for 20-30 more.
There aren't a lot of reviews on many Z270 boards unless they are the high end ones. Being something newer, there won't be a ton of them, but based on the specs on their website and the limited ones that I have seen, hasn't been anything negative or lacking. The PC Mate line has been around for awhile now, so there won't be any issues there. However, it's your build/money, go with what you are comfortable with and what you would like.
Oh I had it as a 1x8 because I had your micro-atx board in still when I made the change. It is much easier to upgrade when you have a 1x8 stick with less slots on the micro board. With the full ATX, can grab a 2x8 kit for dual channel.
Sucks having limited options in Canada for budget CPU coolers and generally higher cost parts. I am also from there. Looks good to me, just keep in mind that board is with a $30 mail-in rebate. The CPU cooler is nothing special anymore as it is a bit dated, but will still do the trick until you choose to upgrade. Or, could put a few bucks more into it. Also, that board can handle much higher speeds for RAM. I would keep my eyes open for some sales and look to grab some faster speed for similar price!
Build runs few euro more, but geared a bit more towards a white/black theme. Changed to a full size ATX board for your case, have a better PSU, changed the RAM stick color and SSD to fit theme and save a few pounds. Not much of a change, but helps keep a theme and have a board that will fit and look nicer in that case.
Could change to a 7600k and grab an ASRock Z270 Pro4 board. Should offset to be the same price. Even a Z270 PC Mate should be similar.
Changed the Kaby Lake. You had an unlocked CPU with a locked mobo, so if you are not planning to OC, going with the i5-7500 and removing the CPU cooler would be best option as it comes with a decent stock one. Got cheaper RAM, still red, still works fine. Added in an SSD. Slightly better PSU. Upgraded to 144Hz monitor.
Upgraded to newer gen CPU/mobo. Upgraded CPU cooler (currently on sale). Went to a cheaper motherboard that still fit the colour scheme and has many of the same features. CPU could be changed to a 7600k if this computer will be mainly used for gaming. Dropped to 16gb of RAM instead of 32 (unless this needs to be adjusted as you didn't specify what your uses were). More SSD space while saving a few bucks. Upgraded PSU. Added in a GTX 1080, even though this is not necessary depending the specs you plan on playing at. If you are planning on playing 1080p or 1440p 60hz, the 1070 would do fine and would not need the premium of the 1080.
H270 itx/ac board (as previously suggested) to avoid BIOS update. Much cheaper RAM. Bigger SSD while saving $10. Better PSU.
Gonna be one beautiful build. Could get away with a 650w PSU with only the one card. Also, could grab a cheaper motherboard and put that into an AIO cooler to help keep temps down and allow for better OC.
Fair enough. Definitely some better alternatives then for a few parts!
If only one monitor is for gaming, I would consider grabbing one NICE monitor and two 60hz monitors. Don't need the high refresh rate for twitch or youtube
For an extra $700 bucks, many things could change with the build clearly. I would be happy to settle with the Carbon which is still an RGB board for the price difference.
Motherboard is RGB?
Looks to be a solid build. SSD could be switched for another. The ASRock Pro4 micro board looks nicer and offers same features for same/similar price I believe. Your RAM doesn't include a price. Do you own it already or does that need to be taken into consideration?
Newest gen CPU/mobo combo. Faster/nicer RAM. Newer and more efficient PSU. Took keyboard out and price is at 1540. So few parts can be adjusted to shave off a few bucks to offset cost on whatever board you decide to go with.
Edit realized your SSD listed did not have a price. Do you own one already or does this price need to be incorporated as few parts may need to change.
Little bit more in cost but more RGB goodness and newer architecture.
That build is now 2 generations old. Much better Kaby Lake CPU/mobo, DDR4 RAM, significantly better PSU, single stick of memory allowing you to add another 8 down the line.
This build is right at the top of your budget, but certain areas can all be adjusted to save cost. As it is a gaming computer, no need for the 7700k. Dropped down to a 7600k and jumped up to a GTX 1080 instead of 1070. Switched for an AIO cooler for temps and grabbed a Z270 board instead. Also adjusted the RAM to fit color scheme a bit more. Upgraded the PSU to EVGA's new G3 lineup and changed to a 650w just for a little headroom. Next, added in a 1440p 165hz G-Sync monitor to utilize your 1080. One of the nicest ones out there.
If you want to shave off a few bucks, the GPU is a bit on the high $$ end for 1080s, so can definitely get a cheaper one that performs just as good or even better. RAM could be decreased in price, there are a few motherboard options that are 10-40 bucks cheaper (Pro Carbon is a few bucks more for RGB effects) and the AIO could be changed to a Lepa Aquachanger or Arctic Freezer.
Yeah I checked the clearance and there was room, albeit little. I was going to recommend an AIO to him as well, but after checking a few reviews, that Noctua seems to do an awesome job. The clearance of it could restrict a bit of airflow though. I put that motherboard in as it was in the middle of his price range, even though I agree with you that it is still overprices for the RGB option, even though built in wifi is a bonus feature. I see you use that mobo for a lot of recommendations and seems like a great bang for buck board, like the tomahawk for red builds.
I would drop the CPU cooler and grab an i5-6500. If it is specifically gaming you are doing, I would drop down to 1 stick of 8gb of RAM for now and upgrade your GPU to a RX470 and the PSU to maybe a CX450M. Is the Optical drive necessary as well?
Specs of the build seem beautiful, but don't see a point of putting the time into a nice description without adding some pics. Wait and put it up all together. Will get my +1 when you show us the goods!
As the others have said, rolling the 7700k makes a lot of sense. I added in a Strix motherboard as it is cheaper than the Gaming 7 board and offers essentially all of the same features + wifi. A lot of the "gaming" boards have a premium because of the name. There are a couple other options you can pick like the Pro Carbon or Z270 Prime-A that are cheaper that have majority of the features besides wifi. A lot of choosing a motherboard has to do with what features you plan on utilizing. adjusted the PSU to something cheaper that still has the same, if not better quality. The Define C is a beautiful case, few nice upgrades over the Define S. Also adjusted the SSD to get it bigger and 10 bucks cheaper. The little bit of money being saved on PSU and SSD covers the upgrade to the 7700k.
What budget are you working with and what do your primarily do with the build? Also, no need to buy a water cooler for a locked processor. Stock one works perfectly fine besides aesthetics.
I suggested it moreso because I did not know a lot about the A40. Just read a few reviews and seems to be very solid and similar in price. Few reviews show it being quieter as the rad is thicker helping with fan noise and heat dissipation. Good on ya, I would probably stick with it. Lemme know how it works out! Might look into it when I switch out my Arctic Freezer
I'd roll with Mark's list. Great overall performance with a few steals on some prices. Gives you best GPU and storage config as well as the i5 over the i3 processor.
What Ada said. If you could see yourself getting more serious about it, investing in the 7700k would be worth it. If it is going to be lightly used or a hobby, I would go with the 7600k.
If it's for gaming only, don't need the 7700k. Dropped down to the 7600k, upgraded to CPU cooler, changed the motherboard to a Z270 series, got a cheaper/bigger SSD, got faster and cheaper RAM, upgraded the PSU to a better quality and fit in a 1070 which is a significant upgrade. Still with $100 to spare for your choosing.
Yeah those are a few things to put in description next time, such as the SSD and the RAM deal. Good on him and you for getting that for the price. Good luck