Late reply, but thanks for the response. The second link was actually quite helpful!
Just bumping this in case someone has feedback but didn't see the thread.
I absolutely love it. The monitor is amazing.
As for the frame rates, I am seeing about 90FPS on BFV with everything ultra. I was actually surprised it was that high. Other games like Far Cry 5 are close to that as well with the same settings.
Sounds great. I will switch them around.
Do you have any recommendations of a truly good DP cable? There are way too many low quality options that it's hard to find a good one.
Nope. I double checked and it's set to 100Hz.
I'm assuming a crappy DP cable.
On Rocket League it’s about 53C while on BFV on Ultra it’s a very consistent 78-79C.
I’d say it does the job, but an AIO cooler should be thought about.
I do appreciate all the responses from you, so thank you. I'm fairly new to any sorts of these overclocking or testing programs. I was aware that FurMark is a GPU tester, but it was one of things that helped me diagnose the previous issues. One of which was the CPU being overclocked using the set Game Boost profile on my old motherboard. It would have massive spikes/jumps 10x worse than what I am seeing right now. I had just assumed that the stutters on the new motherboard would correlate to the old problems.
The CPU seems to be stable with Ryzen Master now. In regards to your comment on GPU stutters, I think that is where I am at now. They are not very noticeable as I have my FPS set to 100. I will get a slight, but noticeable dip, down to 98 or so. This is mainly seen in Rocket League.
I have not done any tweaks or overclocking with Afterburner. Any ideas?
Okay, that makes more sense as I was testing some of the Ryzen Master profiles and the temps were much more in line.
A follow up on this. I have figured out how to get the voltage squared away within the Ryzen Master and the GHz is now set to where I want it, which of course took care of the higher than expected CPU temps as well.
What is the reasoning for the standard set up to be pushing these chips so hard?
So I installed the Ryzen Master and set it to the PBO setting. I ran Furmark to test for stuttering and it is incredibly worse, including voltage. For some reason, these are all setting my GHz to 4.1-4.3 when all I want is the standard 3.7GHz as it had no problems.
I'm trying to get a more stable CPU voltage. Long story short, I want to lower it to see if it removes some of the micro stutters.
I encountered these same issues with my old motherboard and it was due to the set overclock of "Game Boost" being higher than it should have been, causing it to have random stuttering. Disabling the OC made it run perfect.
I'm just assuming I am experiencing the same issues due to too high of a voltage being supplied to the CPU.
I have had the Razer - Firefly mouse pad since the start and it has been great. If you are looking for an RGB pad, I would recommend that. There are a few more cost effective ones on the market though.
Just make sure you have enough desk space because they are massive.
The RAM was such a great upgrade from my original 2400MHz and it has really helped push the most FPS. It also looks great and was relatively reasonable as well.
As for the monitor, I think that is the best purchase I have made in regards to any gaming. It is just a flawless monitor. This monitor is by far the triple monitor killer when it comes to gaming.
Thank you. Not sure what happened to pics when uploading. For some reason they look awful.
There's the clearer ones.
The case is called Darkforce T20. They also have a white version available. It only comes with one rear fan, so the other fans added also came from Darkforce.
That is also what I was using and it was directly the same as the CPU temp info pulled with Afterburner. Both were all jumpy. It appears the only time it is consistent is when it is a higher temp.
I played BFV yesterday to test it out CPU temps. Previously it was a consistent 70-72C and with this new Mobo/set up, it was 74C and didn't move throughout the entire game.
The mounting pressure should be the same as my old MB as it uses the side connectors to mount the stock cooler that comes with the 2700X. Is it a possibility that this board has a different standard voltage being supplied to the CPU? I had a bit of stuttering off the bat, similar to what I saw on my old MB for a bit. I had to fully remove the standard Game Boost overclock that came with the MSI bios. It has improved since then. Overall, while playing Rocket League it is showing about a 6-10C increase over the last set up.
I also have a new case now with 6 case fans compared to my old one that had 3, so I expected it to be the same or even down. I'll check to see what the CPU fan is set at vs. the standard on the MSI board.
In game it is not as bad and is more consistent. However, at idle (bios or main Windows screen) Afterburner is showing serious jumps in a very short manner.
Agreed. Well worth the $20 investment.
Didn't even think of this. I bought one of these so I will report back when it arrives.
Tried that as well and nothing. Didn’t matter which power cable or port cable I used :/
Unfortunately, both cables that came with the PSU work on the SSD. As for the SATA port, I also tried that with no luck.
A new PSU. I planned on upgrading the rest of the components besides what was listed above.
I will check the connections as well, including on the motherboard.
Thanks Fancy. I think I'm just going to end up buying a new one as this model has very limited outputs. It will allow for better cable management as well.
I appreciate the responses!
I also thought the same thing about the PSU being the culprit as this build far exceeds my original, but I am using the same PSU. The only other game I have played on this build is rocket league so of course it's not on the same level with other intensive games.
Original Build (that never had issues)
- RX 580
- G.Skill Ripjaws V 2400MHz 2x8GB
- B350 Tomahawk
- EVGA 600W Bronze+ PSU
- 1500X (later upgraded to 2700X on this same build)
- RTX 2080
- G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz 2x8GB
- B350 Tomahawk
- EVGA 600W Bronze+ PSU
I also now have the Alienware 1440P 34" Ultrawide so it is being utilized to the max on Ultra settings.
I did check and this PSU should be capable of this system. The PSU was bought just under 2 years ago.
Thanks Guys! I'll throw it on the back burner then.
I just wanted to let you know that this was in fact the reason for all the stuttering, crashing, and shutdowns. Disabled this and played BFV for 2 hours and the CPU never got above 65C. Also had no stutters.
I really appreciate the help on this thread, and all the other ones you commented on in regards to these issues.
Yep, I did.
I was just looking at the recommended max voltages for this CPU and I wonder if this has been causing multiple issues. I appreciate the input.
Thanks! I'll install one of them and test as I go.
Is the thermal compound that comes on these coolers of decent quality?
I'll make a stop at Best Buy to pick up some more paste today. Thanks!
It is overclocked to the 4.15Ghz set by the Game Boost in my bios. I'll try setting it back first before looking at a new cooler, but I do appreciate it.
Are there any good programs to visually see the CPU temp in game? I have gotten the GPU, but haven't figured out a good way to see the CPU temps.
Thank you for the response!
Yes I did. I used the DDU program so they all should be wiped. I'll keep that in mind when I upgrade the next stuff.
What is the reasoning?
Any upgrade recommendation?
At this point, I don't have a problem upgrading parts as this is a serious upgrade from the original RX 580 and 1500x.
Edit #3: I kept trying to boot it, and finally it did. Is there anything I should do while it is on? I am completely dumbfounded. This is also the latest bios as well.
I appreciate the response. I reset the cmos and did as you said. Nothing, showing the same thing.
Unfortunately, I am typing on a mac and it doesn't look like I can install the memtest86 properly to a USB without a PC.
Every aspect of this PC is lighting up as well, so now I am even more confused. Fans are working correctly as well.
Note: I recently bought the RTX 2080 and installed everything that the MSI live suggested. I read online that this can cause issues if you update the bios after.
Edit#2: I even tried a fresh clean and install and it failed to do that as well.
Thanks for the responses guys. I ended up buying it based on the non RGB working well with it.
I believe you pointed the problem in my last thread so I appreciate it. After posting this, I now have the BSOD issues. Definitely gotta be due to overclocking too high.
Is there much of a noticeable difference between buying a 3200 or 3600? I’m going to have to upgrade.
Update on this. I have spent the last 3 hours or so trying everything recommended here and online... Including downclocking the GPU, removing the overclock on the CPU and Ram and then testing. No change other than lower FPS. Still has massive stutter issues. I was testing in the FarCry 5 benchmark test which allows me to change the quality and then see an accurate FPS. In the 30 second test, the game stuttered, dropped 10-20% FPS, came back to fine and then repeated another 2-3 additional times.
So I went with your suggestion, and overclocked the ram with one of the timing options and chose the one 3022 (close to this at least) and then 18-18-18-38 and it's stable. Just did a test run in FarCry and no stutter, or very minimal valleys on the FPS graph. Is this setting doable longterm, or is it time to upgrade my RAM to something better?
Perfect. I'll do my research then.
Last question... I have had some hiccups in the past when it comes to this build when I had a 1500x and RX580 with the same RAM. They were very intermittent. I never really OC'ed anything outside of the standard MSI bios increase with Gameboost and the XMP-Profile 2 setting.
Should I go back to all original settings and re-go through everything again? I don't think I really need to overclock anymore as it's such a more powerful build than previously.
Thanks again. I do appreciate it!
I will try the first thing tonight. Just do a GPU stress test after this?
Can you overclock the ram that high even if it is rated 2400? I currently have it set at 2400 using the XMP-Profile 2 setting. I don't really have an issue buying new RAM if that is going to help out.
I did use a tool for total power consumption and it was ~500W, so I should be good on that part.
I'll keep monitoring it as I go and definitely try using different quality settings to see if the issues go away. I appreciate the input.
It’s an EVGA 650W
Well that is interesting. Is there anything I can use to monitor this while playing when it stutters?
I'm assuming the only fix then would be to bump up to 32gb correct?
VSync always helped me out previously since my old monitor was 60/72hZ. After enabling it now, it sets the static FPS at 60 only.
This was enabled upon driver install.
I am using a displayport cable.
I did set it up in the Nvidia control panel, but not the monitor. Sounds like this could be the problem.